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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Erondur View Post
    Spirit Beasts are freakin awesome uber on the PTR atm. Guess you didn't check out the healing amount of spirit mend! Dmg wise it doesn't make a difference anymore what kind of pet you summon - they all do the same. I LOVE the way pets are now. Much MUCH more utility and flavour on em than in Legion. Funny thing tho: On the PTR mend pet also heals you for a small amount. Guessing it's a bug. Btw: You mentioned mechanical pets - they previously didn't have ANY individual skill at all. Now they have a dmg reduction shield. So they actually gained more than they lost.

    Played some M+ on the PTR with my BM and right now (with our current secondary stats) ferocity pets are destroying anything with ease because of their insane leech heal. Did use mend pet maybe twice during a +3 M+ solo attempt.
    I knew about the massive heal that spirit mend does but i expect that to be nerfed and just something they forgot to adjust, the point of not being ferocity is they don't have bloodlust, there are times especially in m+ you will be the bloodlust guy and you can't use spirit beasts then. Defensive matrix is just shield wall for the pet, again doesn't have bloodlust. I just don't understand why we are forced into having set specs for pets.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Clearcut View Post
    I knew about the massive heal that spirit mend does but i expect that to be nerfed and just something they forgot to adjust, the point of not being ferocity is they don't have bloodlust, there are times especially in m+ you will be the bloodlust guy and you can't use spirit beasts then. Defensive matrix is just shield wall for the pet, again doesn't have bloodlust. I just don't understand why we are forced into having set specs for pets.
    Don't think it's a hassle to use any other ferocity pet just for the BL. In my opinion it made sense to make the only pet that heals you also in the spec that gives you the def cd. It kind of syncs well imo.

    Anyway, think about it this way: you will only use your ferocity pet twice in an m+ highkey run, but you will definitely run with your spirit beast of choice for the whole rest of the dungeon for the 2 min def cd. So you will have plenty uptime of your favorite pet - definitely.

    Edit: Regarding mechanical: my statement still stands - they gained more than they lost, even if it's just a dmg reduction shield. But I do understand you. If I'd be playing gnome bm I'd also wish they made mechanicals ferocity or even better tenacity (as tenacity will be our go to pet for the most part of the group / raid contet).
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  3. #263
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    I've played various iterations of the hunter specs in various circumstances since I joined the game eight and a half years ago.
    Some I'll always remember as particularly fun: MM in late Wrath, for instance, which along with SV for most of Cata was one of the few times that BM wasn't the default spec I played for questing and general overworld stuff. Aside from briefly playing MM again for raiding in WoD and experimenting with SV a bit in Legion on an alt, I've become a dedicated BM hunter on my main.
    For me, the reason is largely because I can solo so many things on my BM hunter, even with crap gear, that I wouldn't be able to on another class. I generally run with a spirit beast with a simple Spirit Mend macro keybound and that, along with Exhileration, keeps us near invincible as long as I know my limits.

  4. #264
    It's nasty man what more is there to it

  5. #265
    Why do you people care what other people play? Get over yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1c3 View Post
    My bet is, if you're in a more casual group, the folks that are playing classes that are ranked as "higher" than you as a BM, aren't playing their class to the bleeding-edge best that it can be played, and they're not gonna be doing as well as DPS ranking sites would suggest they'll be doing. Just watch YOUR group's meters, make sure you don't lag TOO far behind, and you're always gonna be good to go in that group. Even if you're the bottom DPS, if you're not the bottom by MUCH, then no sane group is gonna have a problem with you.
    Yes, this is a thing that a lot of people obsessing over a narrow range of very marginal cases overlook. Average play is so wildly different from the top $small-number.

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    It really isn’t that bad. In fights where you move a lot they’re easily the best choice because they have zero movement penalty.

  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadsop View Post
    Why do you people care what other people play? Get over yourselves.

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    I think Marks hunters are jealous that BM is 12% better damage then Marks with more utility and better defensives with the current Beta patch.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Jurassic View Post
    I think Marks hunters are jealous that BM is 12% better damage then Marks with more utility and better defensives with the current Beta patch.
    That'll be changed within 1 week of Uldir anyways. Can't have BM sim higher than a warlock pet bro.

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    I like BM. "Smooth", stress-free, simple, effective and movement is no issue. You can solo stuff like a bows. Besides imo BM emulates the melee play-style quite nicely: I'ma melee dps bone-head, don't enjoy casting spells at all. I quess BfA Bm ads a tiny bit of complexity to the spec, which I guess is a good thing?

  12. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbus View Post
    I like BM. "Smooth", stress-free, simple, effective and movement is no issue. You can solo stuff like a bows. Besides imo BM emulates the melee play-style quite nicely: I'ma melee dps bone-head, don't enjoy casting spells at all. I quess BfA Bm ads a tiny bit of complexity to the spec, which I guess is a good thing?
    There is no complexity to MM in BfA, I guess the mini game of maximizing beast cleave stacks is kind of complex.

  13. #273
    I've always been an MM guy, but I fucking hate the colossus smash window playstyle of Legion for MM, BM is simply more fun

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    BM is a 5 button spec. Its super easy to play compared to pretty much every other class/spec. It makes sense that it is the most played hunter spec.

  15. #275
    For me, because pets. I've always been BM except for Warlords were I tried MM and LOVE it, but now in Legion I HATE it so went back to my pets.
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  16. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by Ecasinnet View Post
    BM is a 5 button spec. Its super easy to play like pretty much every other class/spec. It makes sense that it is the most played hunter spec.
    Fixed it

  17. #277
    It's the best levelling spec next to demo-locks because of tanking pets, and because of the mobility a pretty good progression spec early on, by the time mid-tier arrives, most other specs in the game out strip it... and others like pets...

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