Originally Posted by
bloodmoth13
From what we know so far for BfA, the horde has been given no reason to engage in war, and as a horde player i have zero motivation to fight the alliance.
This whole expansion appears to play on the faction conflict but so far there is a clear bad guy and a clear good guy. In the recently released cinematic we even have anduin telling saurfang what the horde should be, its getting to the point where the alliance knows whats better for us than we do.
The story is starting to look very predictable, we all follow the dark queen and do unspeakable evil, along the way we all look at the evil shit we do and think 'why are we even doing this again, we deposed garrosh for less, those alliance guys are totally good dudes, why dont we just negotiate a surrender and hand them sylvanas'. Horde are agressors the entire way and we have to do mental gymnastics to justify anything we do. With all of the horde racial neutral heroes returning to the horde (rexxar, garona etc) they have to somehow justify not being neutral and it feels like complete garbage.
I dont want to play another expansion where i hate my leader and cant justify fighting for my own faction. Our own leader is doing more against us than our supposed opponent. At the very least sylvanas could be furthering the hordes interests at the detriment to the alliance but nothing she is doing makes any sense other than existing as a lazy plot device to force faction conflict when there are much more logical reasons to start one.
Whats worse, voljin sanctioned sylvanas, the guy who overthrows garrosh for being an evil dictator decides sylvanas is an appropriate replacement. Voljin knew what sylvanas was, he knew her motives but goes against everything he believes and endorses her, he is directly responsible for all of her actions, so everything evil sylvanas does voljin is directly responsible for. so that means we have 3 evil warchiefs in a row.
Also, the horde forces know what went on with garrosh, and what is left over are those who fought against him, yet when sylvanas starts doing stupid shit they all slackjawedly just say "YESSIR!" and go along with EVERYTHING!
And thats just the NPCs! the player character is doing the exact same thing, and the lore heroes! are horde characters so spineless they cant oppose an unelected warmonger and reign her in? if she is going so directly against horde culture why isnt she deposed after the battle for the undercity? she lost her power base and is now essentially the weakest member of the faction, if baine, saurfang and lorthemar disagree with her they can just say 'nope' and create a council.
The alliance never do anything wrong, its always the horde being the aggressor, even though at this stage it makes perfect sense for the alliance to lead a first strike against the undercity due to a plethora of reasons. that would give the horde a reason to fight back but blizz cant have the alliance ever doing anything bad.
This would all be fine if the horde was MEANT to be the bad guys! if it was our goal to destroy azeroth then our actions would make sense, but we are supposed to be the good guys too, and both factions are meant to have some grey characters but its all so ridiculously one-sided.
Either the horde needs to go full burning legion/scourge/black empire and our characters need to stop putting responsibility onto the faction leaders and admit that they made all the evil choices because thats what we are, or blizz needs to make both factions a lot more grey.
TLDR The horde needs a reason to fight the alliance