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  1. #941
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Did the owner kick him out? Nope

    Then he was free to eat there.

    As for shouting at him, the guy makes a living by being a troll... he is not interested in honest dialogue... that's his thing.

    He's not a victim, nobody harmed him.
    lol.

    I already said he was capable of doing the act of eating there. But eating or drinking in a restaurant/bar etc also includes people not hanging of your table shouting at you. So was he really free. Or was he harassed?
    If you are sitting at a table , and i start shouting at a restaurant..where you really free to eat there. Or where you harassed?

    Yes, he is a joke of a "human being". But if we lower ourselves to their level. ( ben shapiro's, Dave rubin or worse Milo's) then we are no better . And instead of headlines: extreme right speaker gets bullied ( or the (extreme)right way of saying it: free speech under attack). They could have started a discussion with him. He would still walked away from it. But then they could not play the victim card.

    Man do you take everything literally? Victim does not mean bodily harm. Look at trump. He is playing the victim card all the time.


    All this does is give the (extreme) right more to talk about. It increases the if you are not for us , you are against us mentality.

  2. #942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyral View Post
    So you are just like him. Glad this thread has more people willing to talk sincerely than be disingenuous.
    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    Elba has me on ignore. So I can pass stuff to his opponents freely now.

  3. #943
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Because groups of protesters are known to always engage in civility when confronted and not having their demands met, right?
    What are you insinuating?

  4. #944
    Quote Originally Posted by baskev View Post
    lol.

    I already said he was capable of doing the act of eating there. But eating or drinking in a restaurant/bar etc also includes people not hanging of your table shouting at you. So was he really free. Or was he harassed?
    If you are sitting at a table , and i start shouting at a restaurant..where you really free to eat there. Or where you harassed?

    Yes, he is a joke of a "human being". But if we lower ourselves to their level. ( ben shapiro's, Dave rubin or worse Milo's) then we are no better . And instead of headlines: extreme right speaker gets bullied ( or the (extreme)right way of saying it: free speech under attack). They could have started a discussion with him. He would still walked away from it. But then they could not play the victim card.

    Man do you take everything literally? Victim does not mean bodily harm. Look at trump. He is playing the victim card all the time.


    All this does is give the (extreme) right more to talk about. It increases the if you are not for us , you are against us mentality.
    If he believes he was harassed, he should file a police report.

    I'm not saying Milo didn't try to play the victim card, I'm saying he's not a victim... and it's pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyral View Post
    No I mean the people you are celebrating who were chanting loudly to make sure people couldn't talk freely.
    Which is them exercising free speech... you seem really confused about the concept. Freedom of speech is not a requirement to be listened to.
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  6. #946
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you wish to deflect and move goalposts?

    But you said he didn't know how sound worked. He could still talk, and could still make sound. Now, whether anyone could hear him is an entirely different story. Thus, the less on on sound is completed.

    Here you go:

    https://study.com/academy/lesson/sou...-for-kids.html
    No goal posts moved. Context my friend context.

    Elba said it in relation to the freedom of speech.
    The freedom of speech is the freedom to not be silenced or persecuted for you views.
    Shouting down is a form of silencing
    The freedom of speech also covers the freedom to here others views

    By shouting they made it so he couldn't be heard.

    Breaking the freedom of speech.

    It so sad you don't support freedoms equally... So sad.... Bigly small hands.... Shame

  7. #947
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I fully support your freedom of speech,
    And yet your actions tell otherwise.

    I do not wish to have the government silence you.
    So now you move the goalposts to the government silencing people, and not just other people silencing dissent.

    Of course, that does not mean I'm not allowed to call you out.
    Except you're wrong when attempting to do it, and it has been explained why. The link to the original source is left intact, and anyone could check your post in its entirety. Again, i only quote what I'm replying to. What's the point in quoting an entire post if I'm just replying to a part of it, and the forum provides a link to your original post?

    Again, all you're doing is making a fool of yourself and insulting other posters with lies. I say 'lie' because you've already been informed why you were wrong, and yet you insist in the error.

    Freedom of speech is awesome.
    Except when you don't agree with it, as you've demonstrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Which is them exercising free speech... you seem really confused about the concept. Freedom of speech is not a requirement to be listened to.
    No but it dose cover the right for people to listen if they want to.

    The litteraly definition includes the freedom to both speak and the freedom to hear opinions.

    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    And that's the definition of shouting some one down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    No but it dose cover the right for people to listen if they want to.

    The litteraly definition includes the freedom to both speak and the freedom to hear opinions.

    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    And that's the definition of shouting some one down.
    A) Coffee shop patrons are not Congress.
    B) Since you think that they (the Milo detractors) don't get the same freedoms Milo does, how about you give us a list of who you think does and does not get to express their views?
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  10. #950
    Quote Originally Posted by Stop Pretending View Post
    It's really sad you don't understand the definition of each word, or their history. Great education you got there buddy.
    Nazi - a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
    Nigger - In the English language, the word nigger is a racial slur typically directed at black people.

    So is Milo a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party?
    Kenny gona die tonight!!!

  11. #951
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    And yet your actions tell otherwise.


    So now you move the goalposts to the government silencing people, and not just other people silencing dissent.


    Except you're wrong when attempting to do it, and it has been explained why. The link to the original source is left intact, and anyone could check your post in its entirety. Again, i only quote what I'm replying to. What's the point in quoting an entire post if I'm just replying to a part of it, and the forum provides a link to your original post?

    Again, all you're doing is making a fool of yourself and insulting other posters with lies. I say 'lie' because you've already been informed why you were wrong, and yet you insist in the error.


    Except when you don't agree with it, as you've demonstrated.
    Please show a single instance where I did not support freedom of speech.

    I'll wait.

    Also, these people did not silence him.

    Your subjective belief is that I'm wrong, but since it was made clear long ago that you don't know the definitions of words, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

    I'll wait for you to back up your claim that I do not support freedom of speech.

  12. #952
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    A) Coffee shop patrons are not Congress.
    B) Since you think that they (the Milo detractors) don't get the same freedoms Milo does, how about you give us a list of who you think does and does not get to express their views?
    Dosent matter where you are, coffee shop, Congress, bathroom at the girl you met house that you slightly regret sleeping with. Your freedom apples unless you lost it through committing some crime you were charged and judge for.

    My personal views don't matter that's not what's under discussion. What's under discussion is the rights and freedoms in America.

  13. #953
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    What are you insinuating?
    I think it was pretty obvious, but I'll spell it out:

    What are the odds that not even a single person in that protest group would engage in physical confrontation if Milo decided to not only stay, but actually engage the crowd, trying to argue with them? I imagine the odds are around the 'not too good' range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Please show a single instance where I did not support freedom of speech.

    I'll wait.

    Also, these people did not silence him.

    Your subjective belief is that I'm wrong, but since it was made clear long ago that you don't know the definitions of words, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

    I'll wait for you to back up your claim that I do not support freedom of speech.
    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    The dictionary disagrees brah

  15. #955
    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    No but it dose cover the right for people to listen if they want to.

    The litteraly definition includes the freedom to both speak and the freedom to hear opinions.

    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    And that's the definition of shouting some one down.
    Maybe you can provide that definition. You've been caught lying about defintions of words in the past, so some concrete evidence would be nice.

    http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federa...rces/what-does

    dictionary.com disagrees with you.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freedom-of-speech

    Merriam-Webster disagrees with you:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...%20of%20speech

  16. #956
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I think it was pretty obvious, but I'll spell it out:

    What are the odds that not even a single person in that protest group would engage in physical confrontation if Milo decided to not only stay, but actually engage the crowd, trying to argue with them? I imagine the odds are around the 'not too good' range.
    I don't know. I say zero. You are free to widely speculate as well.

  17. #957
    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    The dictionary disagrees brah
    I already posted a link on how sound works.

    Man, I love freedom of speech. I get to support it, you get to deflect and move goalposts... good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I think it was pretty obvious, but I'll spell it out:

    What are the odds that not even a single person in that protest group would engage in physical confrontation if Milo decided to not only stay, but actually engage the crowd, trying to argue with them? I imagine the odds are around the 'not too good' range.
    So, you should stifle people's speech, because you think there's a chance there could be violence?

    That's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Dosent matter where you are, coffee shop, Congress, bathroom at the girl you met house that you slightly regret sleeping with. Your freedom apples unless you lost it through committing some crime you were charged and judge for.

    My personal views don't matter that's not what's under discussion. What's under discussion is the rights and freedoms in America.
    The people shouting at Milo, are also excessing their freedom of speech. Why do you think they don't deserve that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Phrasal Verb:
    shout down
    To overwhelm or silence by shouting loudly.

    The dictionary disagrees brah
    Your argument, ridiculously, boils down to "free speech is against free speech".

    Which should tell you how silly your logic is, yet you keep repeating it.

    Speech does not restrict speech.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Maybe you can provide that definition. You've been caught lying about defintions of words in the past, so some concrete evidence would be nice.

    http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federa...rces/what-does

    dictionary.com disagrees with you.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freedom-of-speech

    Merriam-Webster disagrees with you:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...%20of%20speech
    Here you go silly dident look far did you.

    The First Amendment's freedom of speech right not only proscribes most government restrictions on the content of speech and ability to speak, but also protects the right to receive information,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free..._United_States

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Your argument, ridiculously, boils down to "free speech is against free speech".

    Which should tell you how silly your logic is, yet you keep repeating it.

    Speech does not restrict speech.
    No the law protects some ones freedom even when others use the freedom to suppress it. That's the point of a Republic.

    You can't use your liberty to remove some one else's and vice versa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    The people shouting at Milo, are also excessing their freedom of speech. Why do you think they don't deserve that right?
    Because it a Republic the law > all

    Same reason trump can't make sweeping laws.

    A person cannot use the liberty and freedom to remove or suppress anouther liberty's or freedoms.

    That's the cornerstone of a Republic and America.

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