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  1. #1
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    Why are Blizzard spending less time on Alliance content?

    >Allied races
    >Faction mounts
    >No new updates for old races
    >Void elves still using the old blood elf male face textures (aka duckface)
    >Horde has interactive story in BfA, Alliance story is linear and just there. We're back to Alliance being a faction to support Horde story.
    >Alliance was promised Lordaeron, loses both Teldrassil and Lordaeron

    Everything listed above is stuff where Alliance is falling short. The Horde bias has always been there, but as an Alliance player it's starting to get frustrating to get less quality content based on the faction I play.

    I know this thread will be filled with Horde players unable to realise their favoritism because they're the ones being favoured.

    Inb4 "The horde is there waiting for you" - Ion 2018

    I do realise that Blizzard chose to focus on Horde content for BfA first and seeing as they neared release, Alliance content has been rushed. Should be explained why though.

    EDIT: Void elf faces has been updated. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm happy that my thread has spiraled a discussion, but please be well mannered.
    Last edited by mmocfea2a4b8ab; 2018-05-03 at 11:09 AM.

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    Because you already said it: Ion loves the horde, period.

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    As a horde player, I'd like to have kul tiras 10 million times over zandalar (aka copy-paste of Mayan culture)!

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    >Allied races
    Eh, I'd say that's subjective. Void elves have the best customization of the lot, Nightborne and Highmountain options are jokes compared to them. Kul Tirans and Zandalari are both rad as hell.

    >Faction mounts
    This is, like, 6 mounts of the dozens we'll be seeing in the expansion. For all we know, the bee could be Alliance-only since they're situated in Kul Tiras.

    >No new updates for old races
    Blood elves had a bug fixed, and Blizzard adjusted a color slider for a few faces. Whoopty-doo.

    >Void elves still using the old blood elf male face textures (aka duckface)
    This was fixed in the latest build.

    >Horde has interactive story in BfA, Alliance story is linear and just there. We're back to Alliance being a faction to support Horde story.
    Can't say anything about this, I haven't looked into the story past Lordaeron because I don't care to spoil it before the official release, or before any last-minute changes a la Jade Forest.

    >Alliance was promised Lordaeron, loses both Teldrassil and Lordaeron
    We were told that Teldrassil would burn and Lordaeron would be destroyed pretty much from the start. (though I guess they changed it from being indefensible to being covered in plague goop) The Alliance wasn't promised a damn thing in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceall View Post
    As a horde player, I'd like to have kul tiras 10 million times over zandalar (aka copy-paste of Mayan culture)!
    I agree with the fact that Blizzard could've done something really great with Kul Tirans. But they don't even have full beards and they have ONE face with different scars. That's it. They're all identical to one another.

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    They havent used more time but the likelihood is that they Are separate teams and the One team working on horde stuff Are just better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwgmon View Post
    Eh, I'd say that's subjective. Void elves have the best customization of the lot, Nightborne and Highmountain options are jokes compared to them. Kul Tirans and Zandalari are both rad as hell.


    This is, like, 6 mounts of the dozens we'll be seeing in the expansion. For all we know, the bee could be Alliance-only since they're situated in Kul Tiras.


    Blood elves had a bug fixed, and Blizzard adjusted a color slider for a few faces. Whoopty-doo.


    This was fixed in the latest build.


    Can't say anything about this, I haven't looked into the story past Lordaeron because I don't care to spoil it before the official release, or before any last-minute changes a la Jade Forest.


    We were told that Teldrassil would burn and Lordaeron would be destroyed pretty much from the start. (though I guess they changed it from being indefensible to being covered in plague goop) The Alliance wasn't promised a damn thing in that regard.
    >Kul Tirans has 1 face to choose from
    >Blood elves had their faces retextured, not bug fixed
    >They added golden eyes as an option for blood elves. Golden eyes for draeneis are a completely different allied race and it's the only thing that differentiates them from the original draenei
    >Upright orcs - Alliance has been asking for "bug fixes" for as long as I can remember: eyebrows for beardless night elf male, pincone beard, same face syndrome for human females etc. Still zero updates
    >Void elf faces were indeed updated after feedback on official forums. I'm actually surprised Blizzard did anything about it.
    >It's not an issue of the mounts, it's the fact that the gryphon mounts use MoP gryphon model, while horde gets 3 completely new mounts. Imagine if your mounts were high res raptors and an old low res wyvern.
    >I've done both horde and Alliance on beta. Alliance quests are kill-collect exclusively without any story heading anywhere. Horde has interactive and varying quests leading somewhere.

    Not to mention our asspull allied races as a whole.

    Overall Alliance content is rushed. It's rushed because they chose to focus on Horde first, and ran short on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    >They added golden eyes as an option for blood elves. Golden eyes for draeneis are a completely different allied race and it's the only thing that differentiates them from the original draenei
    This screams uninformed bias imo.
    The LF Draenei have not only golden eyes, but lighter skin colour, completely different beards and beard colours, body tattoos and a non-toy mark on the head.
    I'm an alliance player, but you talk like the LF Draenei are the worst Allied Race and that's not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    I agree with the fact that Blizzard could've done something really great with Kul Tirans. But they don't even have full beards and they have ONE face with different scars. That's it. They're all identical to one another.
    I've been talking about the continents...

    And that I like kul tiras more than zandalar. As a continent.

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    Because vast majority of WoW devs are Horde fanboys. Also it has been confirmed that Alliance content is done by B team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceall View Post
    I've been talking about the continents...

    And that I like kul tiras more than zandalar. As a continent.
    I like Kul Tiras more than Zaldanar as a continent too. The problem is that Kul Tiras is a hollow shell compared to Zandalar. They made the zones but didn't have enough time to fill them.

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    >Kul Tirans has 1 face to choose from
    Yet.

    >Blood elves had their faces retextured, not bug fixed
    If you're talking about their faces I wonder who will bother enough to zoom in that to actually notice

    >They added golden eyes as an option for blood elves. Golden eyes for draeneis are a completely different allied race and it's the only thing that differentiates them from the original draenei
    Tattoos, Permanent head-runes, new horns...

    >Upright orcs - Alliance has been asking for "bug fixes" for as long as I can remember: eyebrows for beardless night elf male, pincone beard, same face syndrome for human females etc. Still zero updates
    Face features are a different kind of work than a straighter skeleton I guess

    >It's not an issue of the mounts, it's the fact that the gryphon mounts use MoP gryphon model, while horde gets 3 completely new mounts. Imagine if your mounts were high res raptors and an old low res wyvern.
    You can't compare the still pretty fresh gryphon from MoP and the old vanilla wyvern. I also wouldn't like them to pull out an unknown new flying creature for Kul'tiras. They are strongly tied to the alliance, they are limited in the new things they can bring.

    >I've done both horde and Alliance on beta. Alliance quests are kill-collect exclusively without any story heading anywhere. Horde has interactive and varying quests leading somewhere.

    Hmmm the story around the drust seems really interesting to me. Also isn't there something about the Alliance tracking Galliwyx himself ?

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    And yet the Horde is going to lose leaders like crazy in BfA. While the Alliance will only gain in leaders and remain stagnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyderp View Post
    Because vast majority of WoW devs are Horde fanboys. Also it has been confirmed that Alliance content is done by B team.
    Citation, please. I acknowledge that the horde quests were genuinly better for 2/3 zones, but I'd like to know where they confirmed that.
    Last edited by Cosmic Janitor; 2018-05-03 at 07:42 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    I rather be ignored than villains again
    Nah, the Horde won't be villains. The writing has shifted into a "Game of Thrones" narrative where the assholes gets to be treated like a normal part of the plot instead of antagonistic figures. Some may call it "realistic". In fact, it is more of a pseudo-sophisticated soap opera.

    That is why you see toxic people laughing at Greymane losing more and more loved ones and they try to find insane arguments to justify Sylvanas and the "New Horde".

    Just to see how pathetic the fanbase is, they even slander Saurfang because he defied the Queen. His sense of honor is seen as "suicide tendencies" and the character is treated like a burden to be rid off.

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    I do agree. I feel like it is fairly obviues Horde get more attention and focus.
    first of all if we look at Just how the conent was devolpered. The horde zones was done Much faster and released faster then the alliance content. The horde zones was more polished. If we look at the story. The hordes have really interesting more Relevant lore, with Old gods and Dark spirits. While the alliance mainly deals with What feels like Filler.
    many people on the forum and youtubers have said this, that it is fairly clear that the focus have been on Horde story telling. their missions feeles better and more polished and more relevant. The entire alliance "quest" of all 3 islands are uniteing Kul tiran, which is pretty much the starting point for the horde that zandalari is united.

    Even allied races, Mag'har orcs, are also by far superior to dark iron dwarves, they have have skin for each clan, while All the dark iron clans have is "dark". that is not even to point out how so far all the hordes racials have been superior to the Alliance.

    alliance get a New old griffhon mount horde gets new mounts.
    even the small stuff such as even horde old races get attention, upright orcs, Blood elves with golden eyes.
    it just . So many things. it is very clear the alliance the get B team

    edit: and let me get started on Sylvanas, I find it laugable how they keep saying" we want to make it nuanced, there is no good or evil, it will be debeable who is the bad guy and who started the war" WHILE it is so not. Sylvanas is 10 times as villainess as garrosh was, She is worse then the lich king. But because she is a faction leader it is all "well you see she does it for the children, so actually she is lawfull good" Even horde players says they are the evil guys here, but blizzard will DAMN sure try their fucking hardest to make it seem as it is up to debate and "sylvanas is actually neutral here"
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  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Citation, please. I acknowledge that the horde quests were genuinly better for 2/3 zones, but I'd like to know where they confirmed that.
    In the latest interview, Ion went as far as to portray the current Horde as "non-evil". He went as far as ridiculously claiming that the Orcs were never evil even back in the first Warcraft game.

    Not to mention that he mentioned that both factions are equally capable of being evil. In other words, extreme retaliation from the Alliance might be treated similarly to the Horde's pre-teen psychotic killing spree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indus Siebenschraube View Post
    This screams uninformed bias imo.
    The LF Draenei have not only golden eyes, but lighter skin colour, completely different beards and beard colours, body tattoos and a non-toy mark on the head.
    I'm an alliance player, but you talk like the LF Draenei are the worst Allied Race and that's not the case.
    The problem is that Draenai were already pitched as a holy race, hell their passive is Gift of the Naaru, so Blizz giving us "holier" Draenei annoys a bunch of people. What prevents regular Draenei from:
    -growing a beard like the LFD have?
    -coloring the beard like the LFD have?
    -growing different horns like LFD have?

    they also already had pale skin and the "non-toy mark" during GotN. The only thing that really diffrentiates them are the tattoos, but it's not like they are even visible 99% of the time.

    As for why Blizz spends less time on Alliance?
    They never really were passionate for Alliance like they were for Horde, but I guess they finally burnt out. You know the kind when you don't like your job, but still keep it for years and hit this burn out where you just don't care anymore.
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    I'm just curious where exactly was Alliance promised Lordaeron? I must've missed it completely.

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