Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)
Kul'Tiras drove the Drust to extinction.
The Dwarfs and Gnomes destroyed the Frostmaine Empire, took their lands, and to this day continue their genocidal campaign against them.
King Llane got his father killed by starting a war with the Gurobashi because he wanted to destroy them and his father refused to go to war.
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Only one was the rest did so willingly.
Not a war crime per say, but the origin of Voss is sad and shows how the Alliance can be prejudice.
Everything Genn did after the Second War comes close.
Wanting to genocide the Orcs in the camp because they were too expensive.
Refusing to help Lordaeron when the Scourge attacked Capital City.
Abandoning half his people on the other side of the wall (because it was cheaper to build there than around everything).
Letting the Scourge kill all the refugees at the foot of the wall when they showed up.
Downplaying the role of a few races into near oblivion, just to highlight the other same few regulars in nearly every god damn conflict.
If you knew the candle was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
Biggest war crime of the alliance was letting those void elves join their ranks.
Horde has never done any war crime, people claim that Theramore was a war crime but seriously, it was necessary. The conflict between alliance and horde was inevitable and Theramore sent forces into southern Barrens to support the night elf forces... Typical alliance hypocrite behaviour "we r gud we no do bad things!" yeah, sure.
People of Theramore and mostly Jaina deserved the bombing of Theramore. Jaina claimed the whole time she's peaceful towards the horde, but nope, when big daddy Varian arrives she completely forgot about her promises towards Thrall.
Jaina should be happy about the bombing instead of marching horde forces who would ravage the city and slaughter its people. For the Horde. Death to the alliance.
so answer that one, also u can easily answer strongly by saying in most recent lore edition (legion) they changed the BL goal from undo titan creation to wiping out all life forms
that is most recent edition right? did chronicles change that again or something?
but for rise of horde time at least, draenei were portrayed as ignorant selfish who have no problem to cause annihilation of anyone and everyone to stay alive, and yet claim they are 'selfless' and believe in the 'light' ideas (also with current Light ideas in wow, that actually fit... seriously fuck all those changes, i hope it is final and get stable now)
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they also say 'no witness' during goblins starting area, in fact because alliance love to genocide any non alliance in their 'righteous glory' is the reason why 4 out of 6 horde main races joined the horde in first place
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http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
Just saw this video on youtube and reminded me of this thread.
Did he copy from this thread? too lazy to watch it
Gilneas and Theramore. There's no parallels to these two.
The burning of Teldrassil is the third one that can be added to the list once we see the event unfold.
Well the allience made panda do overtime work once.
The horse ate people then condemned their souls to burn for all eternity so they could kill more people...
Finally something we can agree on, Felplague. Horde is full of savages and has always been. Their entire history is about conquering, murdering and their thirst for blood. It's funny to see all the triggered horde fanboys who thought horde was their perfect diverse society free of hate.
The list of Horde crimes against the other races keeps growing and growing.
But how surprising is it really? They are at their core a group of bloodthirsty Orcs, downright evil Forsaken, greedy Goblins, cannibal Trolls, mana addicted Elves etc.
Tauren and Pandaren don't really seem to fit this lot at all, do they? Not that they aren't just guilty though, since they still continue to support them through the events.
If the particularly petulant Sylvanas fanboys over on the lore subforum are to be believed, the Alliance's greatest war crime would be "existing".
TEA IS DOWN!
Sylvanas is what you get when you cross Joffrey Baratheon with a mary sue. Change my mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be fair, I never expected the Horde to be protagonists on an equal footing with certain races of the Alliance. It simply wasn't and isn't possible due to certain races that constitute it, as you've said it yourself. The undead influence over the Horde's story arc has grown so big at this point that it has become impossible to discern the rest of the Horde from the Forsaken; everything the Horde does is essentially a Forsaken plot and a Forsaken plot has never made for a good protagonist plot.
I enjoyed the theme the Horde used to bring to the table much more than the Alliance one, even when they were outright villains. What is putting me off right now is all the players that have pooled up in and around it, who try to convince themselves and/or others of things that simply aren't true, thinking that continous repetition will make them true.
I used to enjoy playing as an orc that is chopping up Ashenvale in order to build up Orgrimmar; there was nothing fake about it and the Horde players never tried to whitewash the plot. None of us pretended. All of that changed though.
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Eh, hopefully Blizzard will put her character to rest after all this time. Perhaps that swamp will drain itself after that. Sylvanas and blood elf fanboys are, without a doubt, the most populous. There's been a few cringy void elf roleplayers posting all over that place, but at least they're not pretending to not be fanboys. The night elf fanboys are busy being bitter in the meantime.
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As somebody who plays both factions, my unbiased opinion is this: Horde's actions alone make them the greater evil of the two factions. The Alliance at least overall tries to uphold honour, while the Horde overall takes part in destructive behaviour. I like the Horde races and their stories in game, but objectively you cannot argue with this.