Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The show could easily establish her finding new allies who align with her ideals and recognize a spreading evil in the world; ones who will actually support her rather than undermine her goal of making certain that all evil is rid from the world.

Cuz that's where her story is headed anyways.

They literally do that in the second episode.

[Dhrizzle]

I really liked everything tbh. Sure they don't really... acto or look like the elves from the movies but i like this adaption nonetheless.

The ONLY think that really annoys me is the fact, that they seemed to want to make us ship (lol) Galadriel and the guy on the float.
And completly ignoring and never mentioning the fact that galadriel is allready married to celeborn (and has a FREAKING DAUGHTER who married Elrond... who is the mother of arwen btw..... ) who for some reaoson doesn't exist is nowhere to be seen...

We're only 2 episodes in to a 50 episode story.

[frn1]

They literally do that in the second episode.

wait what, when?

[rogoth]

maybe it's about writing a ridiculous dialogue and shoot awful scenes and see how many defend it.

so far we have had every major 'access media' outlet push all the usual defense buttons by attacking fans and trying to pull down past works as trash, there's been the obvious conflict of interest from the washington post, there's the potential illegal acts by IMDB, turns out apparently the US has some kind of laws regarding free speech online and what IMDB have done, along with what Amazon is currently doing on the official pages of the site is actually against the law, and regardless of what people say they are protected and as such removing low ratings is illegal, then you have Amazon getting destroyed for blatantly lying about engagement, followed up by them showing their desperation by dusting off the cobwebs of elijah wood/billy boyd/sean astin/dominic monaghan getting them to wear printed t-shirts sporting the message 'all are welcome here' with the rings of power front and center on the messaging, assumedly being paid a pretty penny to try and obfuscate the utter shitstorm that they are in surrounding this steaming pile of utter dross, by using nostalgia as a weapon now to stop people from reviewing this show negatively.

all in all it's been not only an embarrassment for Amazon both in terms of how few people actually watched the first episode, but the 'off a cliff' drop off of people that continued to episode 2 from episode 1, to the utter depths they have sunk to in order to silence dissenters and critics of the show, and the irreparable damage done to their reputation as a company because of their shady and potentially illegal (after investigation by FTC) practices surrounding this launch, and the shambolic desperate attempts to hide this reality from people at all costs.

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We're only 2 episodes in to a 50 episode story.

and the entire point of the early episodes is to set up the characters that will be present, the world they will be working in, and the events that will shape the story trying to be told, and yet the writers of this utter bollox have failed to do any of that, none of the characters are likeable or relatable, none of the events anybody cares about because the writers have decided to jump around from event to event like kid dosed up on sugar unable to focus attention on one thing for more than 5 minutes at a time, and the overall scene setting has been shambolic, so it really doesn't matter what the rest of the show has, because they have failed spectacularly to provide any reason to care past this point.

[Vakna]

So apparently anyone who criticises this dogshit show for any reason at all are now racists. Attacking your audience is a great marketing strategy.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

wait what, when?

Dude on the boat rescues her, supports her idea that evil is still out there and saves her while sinking.

[VinceVega]

We're only 2 episodes in to a 50 episode story.

Well yeah. Still weird.

[Dhrizzle]

So apparently anyone who criticises this dogshit show for any reason at all are now racists. Attacking your audience is a great marketing strategy.

Nah just the racists.

[BigToast]

So apparently anyone who criticises this dogshit show for any reason at all are now racists. Attacking your audience is a great marketing strategy.

No, anyone who criticizes the show because there are black people in it are racists. Pretty simple distinction there.

[rogoth]

Nah just the racists.

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

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No, anyone who criticizes the show because there are black people in it are racists. Pretty simple distinction there.

except you're wrong, and they are labelling anybody who criticises this show racist regardless of what criticism they levy at this amateur hour project, so like i have said to Dhrizzle, tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist, because i would love to know what sort of fucked up logic process you have to jump through to come to that warped fucking conclusion.

[BigToast]

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

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except you're wrong, and they are labelling anybody who criticises this show racist regardless of what criticism they levy at this amateur hour project, so like i have said to Dhrizzle, tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist, because i would love to know what sort of fucked up logic process you have to jump through to come to that warped fucking conclusion.

...racist...

[Kumorii]

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

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except you're wrong, and they are labelling anybody who criticises this show racist regardless of what criticism they levy at this amateur hour project, so like i have said to Dhrizzle, tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist, because i would love to know what sort of fucked up logic process you have to jump through to come to that warped fucking conclusion.

They are racists because they say they are racists...
It's easy to deflect with "only the racists" when you are the arbiter of deciding who is one and who isn't...in this case, anyone who doesn't agree, regardless of reasons.


Case in point, post above.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist,

This Would depend interiorly on the actual criticism given about the costumes, people could easily be singling out the minority actors and saying they don’t fit In X costume even though it’s in line with all the others or just Simple make racist remarks about the costuming.

Without actual examples of said criticism and those calling out said criticism there is no way to know.

[Veggie50]

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

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except you're wrong, and they are labelling anybody who criticises this show racist regardless of what criticism they levy at this amateur hour project, so like i have said to Dhrizzle, tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist, because i would love to know what sort of fucked up logic process you have to jump through to come to that warped fucking conclusion.

I don't think you'll find too much disagreement that trash media has trash articles. Of course it's ridiculous to say all criticism of the show is due to racism, it's not a PERFECT show, nothing is.

Do I believe a lot of criticism is due to a dislike of the race in casting choices, and a counter woke movement that has little to do with the show itself? Yea... And I've debated many on the forum here who argue that arondirs skin colour is ridiculous for the setting of the show.

But there is plenty to criticise (rightfully or not) about story, costumes, character development, etc. Those are generally the more interesting things to discuss anyway ^^

[StillMcfuu]

When Gal jumped ship I kinda chuckled amusingly. In the beginning of the serie there is that classic map on parchment (to give so layout of places for those who may not know).
The striped line animated to represent the high elves travel to Middle Earth is humongously far in that representation.

Yet... she strech her limbs and swim for a short while and woopsie daisy here comes a suitable shipwreck. And we have yet to see when she use the sea wyrm as mount to get back for real. I dont care about it but I immediately knew some far fetched explanation is incoming. Dont remember that from the any books but was like 25y ago I read all but the main works.

Valinor isn't actually on Arda after the first age. Tolkien explains it in one of his letters that going to Valinor would be like (my words) leaving California and going straight winding up outside the atmosphere. If humans tried to go to Valinor they would just find the other side of middle earth or whatever the eastern continent.

[Myradin]

Yes, have to add that to the list of expert marksmen, magicians, smiths etc.
It's odd though, wonder what athletics dwarves shine in. Midget-Sumo wrestling perhaps or is that taken by haflings *ponder*

Smashing rocks, clearly.

[downnola]

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

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except you're wrong, and they are labelling anybody who criticises this show racist regardless of what criticism they levy at this amateur hour project, so like i have said to Dhrizzle, tell me more about how someone criticising the costumes of the show is being racist, because i would love to know what sort of fucked up logic process you have to jump through to come to that warped fucking conclusion.

I'll never understand how people allow themselves to get this mad over a TV show, let alone take offense when people are pointing out the crystal-clear racist temper tantrums all over the internet over this show. We're talking about people wigging the fuck out over the casting choices for a show based IN A FICTIONAL UNIVERSE.



It's not real life. It doesn't have to be 100% absolutely faithful to every single word in the lore. You people seriously need to go outside, get some fresh air, and take a break from the internet. Goddamn.

[Veggie50]

Smashing rocks, clearly.

Don't forget competitive drinking.

[Dellis0991]

Yeah no one believe an immortal Maiar is around anymore, just Galadriel.

And even when She brings conclusive proof, they still discart the idea, or say "if she find him it can create problems" or whatever, its just bad writing, and, its Gil'galad that informs Sauron is back, not her.


Im not rly underestimating then, im treating then what its supposed to be, an elite squad to fight Sauron for hundreds of years

7 average elf and Galadriel should be able to deal with the troll without getting their asses kicked

This all come down to bad writing, if they suck so much, just make her go with 3 or 2, if they want to show her power, separate the group and make her solo the troll, like she did without making everyone looking like hobbits.




If those elves are the elite, they would never win the ar of wrath and banish Morgoth, this is absurd

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I mean, you find something "right" here and there, but a lot of shit is changed, some that don't make any sense, bad writing, bad dialogue, everything filled with pseudo intelligent speeches trying to be epic and complex. A lot of stuff trying to pull from the movies to bring nostalgia.

Cgi, scenarios and music is good, though it seems they force the music where it should not be.

I think this stuff is like fast and furious and transformers, pure garbage, but entertaining to some, especially for the people who don't know about the story or are just trying to take a day off and shut down the brain and watch some fantasy stuff.

Damn that's disappointing as hell.

[Dhrizzle]

except it's not, every single piece of access media trash has put out articles attacking EVERYBODY, and calls anyone with any criticism regardless of what that criticism is racists, for example a recent review i saw was criticising the costumes, according to these tat publications who's only interest is sucking on the Amazon phallus until such a time as it's no longer profitable to do so, that person who left that negative review is racist for not liking the show, and when i say EVERBODY is being attacked and labelled racist, i mean EVERBODY, so tell me again how it's only racist people disliking this steaming pile of weapons grade bullshit again.

Citation very much needed.

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Valinor isn't actually on Arda after the first age. Tolkien explains it in one of his letters that going to Valinor would be like (my words) leaving California and going straight winding up outside the atmosphere. If humans tried to go to Valinor they would just find the other side of middle earth or whatever the eastern continent.

It was midway through the Second Age the world was changed after the Numenorean fleet tried to invade Aman, though Tolkien intended to rewrite this so Arda was always a round world.