Chinese school uses facial recognition to monitor student attention in class

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A Chinese school has installed facial recognition technology to monitor how attentive students are in class.
Every movement of pupils at Hangzhou Number 11 High School in eastern China is watched by three cameras positioned above the blackboard.

The "smart classroom behaviour management system," or "smart eye", is the latest highly-intrusive surveillance equipment to be rolled out in China, where leaders have rushed to use the latest technology to monitor the wider population.

The system has been installed in one classroom, but will be deployed across the school by the summer, headmaster Ni Ziyuan said.
Some students are already changing their behaviour due to the increased monitoring.

“Previously when I had classes that I didn’t like very much, I would be lazy and maybe take naps on the desk, or flick through other textbooks,” one student told Hangzhou.com, a news website run by the central government.
“But I don't dare be distracted after the cameras were installed in the classrooms. It's like a pair of mystery eyes are constantly watching me."

The system works by identifying different facial expressions from the students, and that information is then fed into a computer which assesses if they are enjoying lessons or if their minds are wandering.

The computer will pick up seven different emotions, including neutral, happy, sad, disappointed, angry, scared and surprised.
If it concludes that the student is distracted with other thoughts during the class, it will send a notification to the teacher to take action.

Many Chinese have grown accustomed to their privacy being infringed by the government and corporations, but people have been expressing horror about the new system on Chinese social media.

"If I was still at school, I would not be able to concentrate on anything but that watching eye!" said one comment on Sina Weibo, China's version of Twitter.
However Mr Ni, the headmaster, said that "smart eye" will help improve educational standards.

“It's the same as teachers having an assistant, and it can improve the quality of teaching," he said, according to the Hangzhou.com report.
"Some have said it can infringe the privacy of students, but it only records students’ movements, rather than filming activities in class.
"And those who focus on lectures will be marked with an A, while students who let their minds wander will be marked with a B."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ent-attention/

[Cerilis]

China is fucking scary.

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In China, you better not have ADHD, you're screwed.

[Deleted]

At least these schools are much safer than American ones.

[Player Twelve]

In China, you better not have ADHD, you're screwed.

ADHD is in most cases just an excuse to people behaving like assholes.

[Kraenen]

ADHD is in most cases just an excuse to people behaving like assholes.

Did you really think anyone would believe this given there's no proof of it?

[Dextroden]

Did you really think anyone would believe this given there's no proof of it?

While they are being hyperbolic about the number, there was the issue of parents deciding their kids have it from reading a blog post. And wanton diagnoses by doctors to move ritalin.

[Trassk]

looks like a sweat shop. Seriously, can see this entire class in 10 years tied as drones to a desk the same as here making shoes.

[shadowmouse]

I thought that picture looked familiar.

It is an unrelated picture thrown in without context from a Chinasmack article on a school in Wuhan using rails to keep students from reading with their face too close to the book. I've never seen a classroom set up like that one in Wuhan, it was an experiment several years ago. The actual picture from the article is more representative of a classroom:


That looks like one of the exercise breaks where the kids get up, stretch, and do eye exercises. Nice misrepresentation Deruyter.

[Ayla]

Those bars look like a good way to knock some teeth out if you need to sneeze.

[nymphetsss]

Next up the electrified seats that ramp up depending on the number of periods of inattention they have!

[Player Twelve]

Did you really think anyone would believe this given there's no proof of it?

Yeah, I guess it's totally realistic that 15% of the kids in USA have ADHD, right, while barely any kids in France have it in contrast to US numbers?

[Themius]

ADHD is in most cases just an excuse to people behaving like assholes.

Yeah, I guess it's totally realistic that 15% of the kids in USA have ADHD, right, while barely any kids in France have it in contrast to US numbers?

In most cases? As in the "majority of cases"

I don't get why people are so anti mental health.

There are many aspects when it comes to mental health where France is far behind the rest of the world, horribly so, for instance at one point aspergers and high function autism weren't even considred things to exist in france while they did in the rest of the world.

So perhaps the next time you pick a stupid argument pick a country that doesn't have a history of pretending mental issues aren't a thing.

There's also an entirely different way of treatment we have behavioural treatment and things parents can do to make life easier for kids with adhd without medicating them while in the USA that kid still have ADHD in france that kid magically doesn't have adhd.

[Player Twelve]

I don't get why people are so anti mental health.

ADHD has fuck all to do with mental health. It's a developmental disorder, not a mental illness. 15% of the kids in the US does not have ADHD, it has like 5% global prevalence. Why would USA have 3 times higher prevalence than the global prevalence?

When you go to different specialists and get widely different opinions on what's wrong, that ought to tell you that there's some serious case of overdiagnosing of ADHD, entirely dependent on who is doing the diagnosing.

[Themius]

ADHD has fuck all to do with mental health. It's a developmental disorder, not a mental illness. 15% of the kids in the US does not have ADHD, it has like 5% global prevalence. Why would USA have 3 times higher prevalence than the global prevalence?

15% is a nubmer you're pulling out of your ass because the APA and the CDC do not give numbers anywhere near 15% and most of the states hover around 5% which... omg you just said global prevalence is 5%!

Done making up shit?

You realize that any type of mental disorder is part of mental health... adhd, depression, autism... it is all part of mental health what the fuck even are you arguing right now? Whatever it is, it sounds foolish.

"Most people just use adhd to be assholes" Really?! Who and how have you experienced it?

Because i'll tell you as someone with adhd most of my issues do not deal with people and all deal with my own activity.

[Player Twelve]

15% is a nubmer you're pulling out of your ass because the APA and the CDC do not give numbers anywhere near 15% and most of the states hover around 5% which... omg you just said global prevalence is 5%!

Done making up shit?

No, I'm not pulling that out of my ass.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/1...r-adhd-diagnos

"Child psychologist Ross Greene, who wrote the best-selling "Explosive Children: A New Way of Understanding and Treating Children Who Are Hard to Understand Adversities and Change" Considers Peter Breggin that medication is motivated sometimes. But he shares concern about what is happening now.

"It's definitely an over-medication, it's not that 15 percent of all schoolchildren in the US really have ADHD, statistically, it's about five percent. But school is becoming more standardized with central examinations and there are more and more children who fall because they are different. It happens at the price of their self-esteem."

So, you're overdiagnosing and overmedicating.

[elaina]

ADHD has fuck all to do with mental health. It's a developmental disorder, not a mental illness. 15% of the kids in the US does not have ADHD, it has like 5% global prevalence. Why would USA have 3 times higher prevalence than the global prevalence?

When you go to different specialists and get widely different opinions on what's wrong, that ought to tell you that there's some serious case of overdiagnosing of ADHD, entirely dependent on who is doing the diagnosing.

Well we also have however many times the gun violence, obesity, etc so beats the fuck out of me.

[Themius]

No, I'm not pulling that out of my ass.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/1...r-adhd-diagnos

""It's definitely an over-medication, it's not that 15 percent of all schoolchildren in the US really have ADHD, statistically, it's about five percent. But school is becoming more standardized with central examinations and there are more and more children who fall because they are different. It happens at the price of their self-esteem."

I rather trust our American government agencies who cite numbers around 5% than some random Swedish story.

What type of retarded argument is this against America?!

"This random swedish story says that America's says 15% of children have adhd!!! Meanwhile the CDC their government agency that tracks stuff like this says around 5%"

[Player Twelve]

I rather trust our American government agencies who cite numbers around 5% than some random Swedish story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_W._Greene

It's not "some random swedish story", he's a child psychologist, from... *drumsticks* America, along with other psychiatrists and psychologists they've talked to, from USA.

[Themius]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_W._Greene

It's not "some random swedish story", he's a child psychologist, from... *drumsticks* America.

Do you think one child psychologist usurps THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT AGENCY OVERSEEING HEALTH?

The percent of children estimated to have ADHD has changed over time and its measurement can vary. The American Psychiatric Association states in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5, 2013) that 5% of children have ADHD1. However, other studies in the US have estimated higher rates in community samples.

Note community sample points trends really considered that adhd mostly believed to be related to one's genes.

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/data.html

This is a woefully foolish argument you have this one american psycholgist says 15%! meanwhile the government agency overseeing HEALTH IN THE COUNTRY Says about 5% yet you are ready to throw all your support and belief behind the opinion of a few than the official stance of the country to judge the country?

I guess I'll judge Sweden by it's few nazis and declare Sweden a nazi state.