Video games and abortion blamed for shooting

[Mormolyce]

Two days after a 17-year-old opened fire in his Texas high school, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick linked school shootings to abortion and violent video games.
Patrick blamed what he deemed the social acceptance of abortion and violent video games for the epidemic of school gun violence.
"Should we be surprised in this nation? We have devalued life, whether it's through abortion, whether it's the breakup of families or violent movies and particularly violent video games, which now outsell music and music," he said on ABC's This Week.
17-year-old suspect Dimitrios Pagourtzi has been accused of killing eight classmates and two teachers in a rampage at Santa Fe High School outside Houston. An additional 13 people were injured. The shooting is another dark - and yet unsurprising chapter - in gun violence targeting high school students in the US. It comes as a public backlash toward gun violence in the US, led by the students themselves, continues.
Patrick said: "Psychologists and psychiatrists will tell you that students are desensitised to violence and have lost empathy to their victims by watching hours and hours of violent video games."
Patrick also pointed to the bullying between adults and children on social media platforms. "We have to look at ourselves," he continued. "It's not about the guns, it's about us."
When asked about gun regulation, Patrick said the responsibility started at home and suggested that a crime may have been committed if the shooter in Santa Fe was able to take possession of his father's firearms.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-a...21-p4zggp.html

So I have to update my list:

Video games
Abortion
Movies and TV
Rock and roll
Gun control activists
Elitism
Lack of Christian morals
Evil
Socialism
Culture
Mental health
Soft targets
Not enough good guys with guns
Lazy good guys with guns
Virtual reality
Doors
The victims
The media
Ritalin
Shootings what shootings?

Guns

[Shelly]

Well, technically they are correct.

If their mothers had aborted the school shooters then they wouldn't have shot up the school.

[Deleted]

Isn't this simply a strategy of confusion and dividing your opponents?
This discussion is now so all over the place that it will once again amount to nothing.

Divide and conquer. In 50 years there will still be school shootings, unless there aren't public schools anymore in the US. Which actually sounds more plausible than no more guns tbh.

[Pickynerd]

Okay so pretend America doesn't have any guns.

Now imagine the next method for mass murder. What is it?

[Deleted]

Okay so pretend America doesn't have any guns.

Now imagine the next method for mass murder. What is it?

Their hands. Do you know the difference of how easy it is to kill with a nuke (pressing a button) and difficult to strangle someone to death? And how different the effectiveness is? Also killing machines have different cost/effectiveness factors. I mean a truck costs shit ton of money compared to a rifle. Let's say you want to kill 10 persons, was is the most cost effective tool for that?

I mean I'm all for guns. I would even be for bombs freely accessible in supermarkets. If one too that got developed just to kill (humans) is allowed it would be anti-modernisation not to allow newer and better tech too.

[szechuan]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-a...21-p4zggp.html

So I have to update my list:

Video games
Abortion
Movies and TV
Rock and roll
Gun control activists
Elitism
Lack of Christian morals
Evil
Socialism
Culture
Mental health
Soft targets
Not enough good guys with guns
Lazy good guys with guns
Virtual reality
Doors
The victims
The media
Ritalin
Shootings what shootings?

Guns

I think the NRA is trying to tell us they think America is a shit country.

[Pickynerd]

Their hands. Do you know the difference of how easy it is to kill with a nuke (pressing a button) and difficult to strangle someone to death? And how different the effectiveness is? Also killing machines have different cost/effectiveness factors. I mean a truck costs shit ton of money compared to a rifle. Let's say you want to kill 10 persons, was is the most cost effective tool for that?

All you need is a key, you don't need to buy anything.

The kid who shot up his school in texas didn't buy a gun.

[Cizr]

Evil sentient guns killing people. What is this? Terminator world?

[Deleted]

All you need is a key, you don't need to buy anything.

The kid who shot up his school in texas didn't buy a gun.

Okay then we have free access to all tools, there is the key for the armory and there the key to a truck. What key would lead to a more cost efficient outcome? I mean we could now also talk about what is easier to use... I mean again: I am all for all humans have access to the codes of the US president at all age and all time.

Also I wonder what exists more - people with access to a truck or people access to guns.

[Pickynerd]

Okay then we have free access to all tools, there is the key for the armory and there the key to a truck. What key would lead to a more cost efficient outcome? I mean we could now also talk about what is easier to use... I mean again: I am all for all humans have access to the codes of the US president at all age and all time.

What are you talking about?

It's early here, but it was a pretty simple question, wasn't it?

Come back to earth for a second... okay...

Now if you were a 17yo white American dipshit and you couldn't get a gun - stay with me here - how would you go about killing a handful of kids at your school?

[Deleted]

What are you talking about?

It's early here, but it was a pretty simple question, wasn't it?

Come back to earth for a second... okay...

Now if you were a 17yo white American dipshit and you couldn't get a gun - stay with me here - how would you go about killing a handful of kids at your school?

Well that would even rule out trucks and cars... they don't get into the building. No I want my guns and you will not take them away.

Is what I would say as 17y old kid who wants to kill a bunch of kids on my school.

And again I'm pro guns, I am the biggest supporter of NRA. The thing is just your goals and mine seem to be opposite. But hey, we fight on the same side just for opposed goals. Let's not pick at each other.

[Pickynerd]

Well that would even rule out trucks and cars... they don't get into the building. No I want my guns and you will not take them away.

Is what I would say as 17y old kid who wants to kill a bunch of kids on my school.

What about during a football game?

[Deleted]

What about during a football game?

Somehow hijack the lawnmower and try to run people on the field over?!?! No clue man it's harder and harder to kill in your scenarios. That's why guns should stay where they are. Don't make it so complicated to kill.

[Mormolyce]

Well, technically they are correct.

If their mothers had aborted the school shooters then they wouldn't have shot up the school.

I can't deny that targeted abortion would solve a lot of the world's problems.

Okay so pretend America doesn't have any guns.

Now imagine the next method for mass murder. What is it?

A rusty whisk?

[Deleted]

Guns are no problem. We have guns everywhere in the world.

The main problem is parenting and teaching a kid how to think and don't be a fucking retard.

Gun is just a tool.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Well that would even rule out trucks and cars... they don't get into the building. No I want my guns and you will not take them away.

Is what I would say as 17y old kid who wants to kill a bunch of kids on my school.

And again I'm pro guns, I am the biggest supporter of NRA. The thing is just your goals and mine seem to be opposite. But hey, we fight on the same side just for opposed goals. Let's not pick at each other.

But if you didn't have any guns, and had no means to obtain them?

[Pickynerd]

Somehow hijack the lawnmower and try to run people on the field over?!?! No clue man it's harder and harder to kill in your scenarios. That's why guns should stay where they are. Don't make it so complicated to kill.

You're going out of your way to make it seem complicated, I kind of wish they would ban guns, just so I can laugh at these fuckers who thought it would work.

[Deleted]

But if you didn't have any guns, and had no means to obtain them?

Then those people would find something else to kill with.

[Pickynerd]

Then those people would find something else to kill with.

Nope, according to people its impossible.

[Deleted]

But if you didn't have any guns, and had no means to obtain them?

Yeah fuck this scenario! I would maybe not kill at all or use some knife or just my hands... I would be very depressed. Why is it so hard to kill? I mean I might just be not creative enough... maybe I should google for some good methods. Again: I would support any methods but it seems to me like... In the end I would still prefer the tools professionals use to kill. Guns have proven to be a good and efficient tool. Why ban them just to explore different approaches? Never stop a running system. Instead: Improve it.

If there is even a tiny chance that without guns there are less murders... How could you ever excuse that? It might takes decades for another method with equal killing-rates to become popular and used. That would be just horrible and half a bankrupt for my party.