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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Why the Germans should have excepted any mercy, when they imposed on Russia an even harsher treaty ?
    The tradition then a fortress lay down its arms, and hence save the attacker from a very bloody assault, is treated extremely mild.

    So can you quantify harsher peace treaty? Was Imperial Russia force to take the enternal blame for starting WW1 becuse they did mobilize first? Did Russia lose all there colonies? Have to give upp its large fleet? The war indemnity? % of core land Russia lose vs German lose in the peace? I know Russia love to point out it they lost proportionally more "productive/useful" land... but then we are back how to quantify harsher peace treaty.

  2. #602
    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    The tradition then a fortress lay down its arms, and hence save the attacker from a very bloody assault, is treated extremely mild.

    So can you quantify harsher peace treaty? Was Imperial Russia force to take the enternal blame for starting WW1 becuse they did mobilize first? Did Russia lose all there colonies? Have to give upp its large fleet? The war indemnity? % of core land Russia lose vs German lose in the peace? I know Russia love to point out it they lost proportionally more "productive/useful" land... but then we are back how to quantify harsher peace treaty.
    Brest-Livstok treaty, dude. After signing this, you lose all argument for crying ''THIS IS UNFAIR''

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    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    Yes they did... it called Panzer IV... and was the most produced tank in Germany.... but that was a losing tactics... becuse Germany was so heavily outnumbered, hence the need to do somthing stupid crazy like super-heavy tanks...
    The Panzer IV was outgunned by French tanks in 1940...

  3. #603
    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    After the area was literally leveled a camera man got a woman solder to pose and that is enough evidence that woman were on the front lines?
    You know that the Russians did have women fight on the front lines, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    You know that the Russians did have women fight on the front lines, right?
    A lot of Alleged Hardcore Historians are coming out of hiding lately.
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    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy4123 View Post
    People that think German tanks were engineering marvels probably look at the Maus and think it was amazing.
    In fairness German tanks were engineering marvels, if you've ever seen one at a museum near inferior allied tanks it makes it even more obvious, but that in itself is the problem. Their main failing was lack of production, it doesn't matter how amazing a tank is if it's surrounded by a dozen piece of **** T-34s or Shermans.

    The irony is the Germans knew that, they exploited it in the early days of the war, defeating superior French tanks with superior numbers of **** tanks. And yet as the war progressed they just couldn't bring themselves to compromise on their designs in order to maximize production rates or aid maintenance/reliability. All they had to do was concentrate on mass producing the Pz IV instead of wasting resources on the Tiger II, E-100, Maus, etc and they could have easily fended off the D day invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaterMDx View Post
    selling the steel to the nazis and tanks to the sowjets joining in the last war years (without havin a reason) after everyone is worn out
    Hitler declared war on the USA, that's a fairly good reason to go to war with Germany from the USA's POV lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Let's rub salt in the wounds of MAGAboys, by showing you realism, girls, communists and the most exciting, Nazis in their natural habitat : decaying bodies



    Here is the capital of the rat regime, after the Aryan vermin shot themselves cowering in their holes, after the alleged Nazi supermen army was crushed to dust by actual Communists.

    You see those ruins ? That's how the Nazi rats ended. You see those buildings ? That's where what was left of the Hugo-Boss clad war criminals died. You see this girl ? That's a ''Judeo-Bolsehvist subhuman vermin'' that is litterally smirking over the tombs (pardon me : bulldozed ditches) of the Nazi rats.

    You betcha the Nazi swine oinked about ''rassial superiority'' when they were flushed out of their holes and propped against walls ?
    They also killed 125,000 civilians in Berlin, and commuted a grand total of over 2milion rapes of women in there march across Europe to Berlin.



    And let's not count the genocide of Eastern European people by the nkvd

    Soviet rats were no better than the nazi rats.
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  7. #607
    If they want a fantasy game, they should make that clear, adding more eletro-/dieselpunk elements, and stop call that WW2.
    Having painted women with cybernetic arms and other stupidities is completely inappropriate.

  8. #608
    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    In fairness German tanks were engineering marvels, if you've ever seen one at a museum near inferior allied tanks it makes it even more obvious, but that in itself is the problem. Their main failing was lack of production, it doesn't matter how amazing a tank is if it's surrounded by a dozen piece of **** T-34s or Shermans.

    The irony is the Germans knew that, they exploited it in the early days of the war, defeating superior French tanks with superior numbers of **** tanks. And yet as the war progressed they just couldn't bring themselves to compromise on their designs in order to maximize production rates or aid maintenance/reliability. All they had to do was concentrate on mass producing the Pz IV instead of wasting resources on the Tiger II, E-100, Maus, etc and they could have easily fended off the D day invasion.

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    Hitler declared war on the USA, that's a fairly good reason to go to war with Germany from the USA's POV lol.
    They really weren't engineering marvels though. Nothing about any of the German tanks couldn't be replicated by America or Russia. They both had better designs than what the Germans used, some were used like the IS2 and T-44, some were abandoned like the M6 and T29/T30. The Panther, Tiger, Tiger II, and all the offshoots from them like the Jagdpanther, Elefant, and Jagdtiger would of failed trials and abandoned by any other nation (except maybe Britain) because of how unreliable they were and for the most part not needed. No one but Germany would even attempt to make something as dumb as the Maus.

    When you make a Panther with all the Panthers flaws fixed you end up with the Centurion. Reliable engine and transmission that are easy to repair and already in service with other tanks and the air force so spare parts were plenty. A normal non overlapped wheel suspension so maintenance again wasn't terrible to perform. The biggest one, (which was one of the main issues with previous British tanks too for reasons I wont go into now), it had a gigantic turret ring capable of fitting a massive turret and much bigger guns later in life.


    By technical specs only the German tanks did look like they were great, but by technical specs only the T29/T30, and M6 were better than their respective counterparts. T29/T30 never made it past trials and M6 wasn't ever actually used in battle. If you want to get into actual engineering not just armor thickness and big gun the Sherman had quite a few things more advanced than German tanks used.

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