The Boys

[Dravec]

You really don’t get it do you? Here’s a hint trump and republicans making the same arguments doesn’t mean it’s not propaganda.

You don’t even know what propaganda is.

Saying we should enforce our borders and deport illegals isn’t propaganda.

Saying shit like BLM and Antifa are peaceful protesters is propaganda, as there is video evidence of these thugs rioting.

Again, they are conveying Nazis as bad. The fact that you immediately associate Nazis with the right wing is kind of the whole fucking point they're making.

Are you high? No they’re not lmfao. What Nazis? Stormfront? Are you saying all the people in that crowd + Homelander are Nazis? Cause they’re not.

Using right-wing points negatively = ackshually, they’re saying the bad guy is bad. Is that how your brain works?

[Jotaux]

Except it isn’t propaganda. It’s literally key points that republicans argue for and specifically Trump. It’s pretty fucking obvious they were conveying the right as bad. It’s even more convincing considering the guy playing Hughie is a left-wing nutjob.

They aren’t conveying the right as bad, they are conveying Nazis as bad. If that overlaps with people you identify with, well...

[Dravec]

They aren’t conveying the right as bad, they are conveying Nazis as bad. If that overlaps with people you identify with, well...

This is such pretzel logic, holy fuck.

Nothing in that fucking scene even brings up Nazis. Those are literal points the right uses. Unless you think Stormfront simply being there is the reason? They also depicted Stormfront as being motherly, I guess moms are Nazis too.

Try again with an actual argument.

[Zaktar]

You don’t even know what propaganda is.

Saying we should enforce our borders and deport illegals isn’t propaganda.

Saying shit like BLM and Antifa are peaceful protesters is propaganda, as there is video evidence of these thugs rioting.


Are you high? No they’re not lmfao. What Nazis? Stormfront? Are you saying all the people in that crowd + Homelander are Nazis? Cause they’re not.

Using right-wing points negatively = ackshually, they’re saying the bad guy is bad. Is that how your brain works?

A lot of the media we consume is propaganda, and there are direct consequences like far right, often young men deciding to take action. It's an actual problem our country is dealing with, of course it's going to appear in shows.

[Volatilis]

you guys are reading way to much into it. The shop keepers eyes were creepy, he was within his rights to shoot him dead.

[Relapses]

Are you high? No they’re not lmfao. What Nazis? Stormfront? Are you saying all the people in that crowd + Homelander are Nazis? Cause they’re not.

Using right-wing points negatively = ackshually, they’re saying the bad guy is bad. Is that how your brain works?

Enlighten me. When exactly did the show go out of its way to label anything as "right wing" talking points? You're the one applying political labels. The only thing we have been shown is that Stormfront is a literal fucking Nazi who uses memes on the internet to appeal to her fanbase. You're free to dislike what they're very clearly suggesting but the hostility you seem to have towards even talking about these kinds of things is -- like I said -- sort of the whole fucking point they're making.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You don’t even know what propaganda is.

Saying we should enforce our borders and deport illegals isn’t propaganda.

Saying shit like BLM and Antifa are peaceful protesters is propaganda, as there is video evidence of these thugs rioting.

If the rhetoric used stoped at enforce the borders you’d have a point, but it isn’t. Instead there’s a ton of propaganda spun around the border and it’s enforcement and the boys show cases that very same propaganda and just adds super villains.

[Jotaux]

This is such pretzel logic, holy fuck.

Nothing in that fucking scene even brings up Nazis. Those are literal points the right uses. Unless you think Stormfront simply being there is the reason? They also depicted Stormfront as being motherly, I guess moms are Nazis too.

Try again with an actual argument.

When you look at Nazis and think “that’s what the right do!” There’s a problem there. And to be clear I’m not saying that’s what the right do because those people have moved far beyond right or left wing policy.

[Ivanstone]

Fuck off. Illegal aliens should be deported and bring nothing good to the US. Why is it ok for literally every other country on the fucking planet to have strong borders, yet you people think the US shouldn’t?

About 50% of agriculture jobs and 25% of food service jobs are done by illegals. That cheep food you're enjoying? Only exists because of illegal immigrants. Also they pay taxes but get very little in return for those taxes.

The white guy only shot the brown guy because he was listening to Stormfront saying that the illegals flooding our border could be terrorists. I don’t know if you’ve seen what Mexicans look like, but they aren’t white.

Did YOU watch the show?

No she very specifically said super terrorists. Which are only a problem because of Homelander.

Also a lot of Mexicans are white.

Except it isn’t propaganda. It’s literally key points that republicans argue for and specifically Trump. It’s pretty fucking obvious they were conveying the right as bad. It’s even more convincing considering the guy playing Hughie is a left-wing nutjob.

The parable doesn't work unless the US is specifically arming terrorists.

[Super Kami Dende]

About 50% of agriculture jobs and 25% of food service jobs are done by illegals. That cheep food you're enjoying? Only exists because of illegal immigrants. Also they pay taxes but get very little in return for those taxes.

How does someone not registered legally in a Country pay Taxes? Do they just send an unmarked bag of Money to the IRS?

[deenman]

What the fuck did I just read?

Are Antifa right-wingers? Are BLM right-wingers? Last I checked it was them who were rioting and destroying liberal cities. But yeah, blame the invisible “right wing Nazis”.

Fuck off. Illegal aliens should be deported and bring nothing good to the US. Why is it ok for literally every other country on the fucking planet to have strong borders, yet you people think the US shouldn’t?



The white guy only shot the brown guy because he was listening to Stormfront saying that the illegals flooding our border could be terrorists. I don’t know if you’ve seen what Mexicans look like, but they aren’t white.

Did YOU watch the show?



Except it isn’t propaganda. It’s literally key points that republicans argue for and specifically Trump. It’s pretty fucking obvious they were conveying the right as bad. It’s even more convincing considering the guy playing Hughie is a left-wing nutjob.

those illegal immigrants offer cheap labour,statistics showw if you deported them all one day,that the usa economy would literaly colapse,also blm and antifa ''destroying cities'' is literaly a made up meme with zero facts behind it,fbi stats have every single terrorist attack in the last decade be atributed to some kind of right wing extremist

[Ivanstone]

How does someone not registered legally in a Country pay Taxes? Do they just send an unmarked bag of Money to the IRS?

Sales tax. If they're paying rent, they're paying property tax. Sometimes their employers do payroll and income taxes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/us/ta...nts/index.html

[Mehrunes]

This episode was hard to watch at times due to the hilariously bad IRL politics implemented.

1. White guy shoots poor brown man because he thinks he’s a criminal. Wyte pipo be racist.
2. Stormfront is using right-wing talking points and they’re being portrayed in a negative light. How dare you want to protect your border, bigot!

Gee, it's almost as if that talking point was nothing more than a dog whistle. Because weirdly enough for all its "We're totally in favor of legal immigrants" posturing, the right wing is against every single form of legal migration as well (except for the chain migration of parents of a model that just so happens to be the current FLOTUS, that one was swell), which they severely limited under Trump's presidency.

Then add to that what @deenman said.

What the fuck did I just read?

Are Antifa right-wingers? Are BLM right-wingers? Last I checked it was them who were rioting and destroying liberal cities. But yeah, blame the invisible “right wing Nazis”.

Facts that don't fit your world-view and as such you instantly rejected in typical right wing fashion (ironically proving something about the portrayal of the right wing in The Boys that you're trying to discredit)? Because that's official data of agencies like the FBI.

The white guy only shot the brown guy because he was listening to Stormfront saying that the illegals flooding our border could be terrorists. I don’t know if you’ve seen what Mexicans look like, but they aren’t white.

Did YOU watch the show?

Most Mexicans are white. There is no "Mexican" race and US demographics data covers Hispanic population by either making non-Hispanic white/black subgroup of the white/black population or a Hispanic white/black subgroup.

Except it isn’t propaganda. It’s literally key points that republicans argue for and specifically Trump. It’s pretty fucking obvious they were conveying the right as bad. It’s even more convincing considering the guy playing Hughie is a left-wing nutjob.

It being key talking point of republicans does in no way, shape or form prevent it from being propaganda. Those are not mutually exclusive. GOP's history shows that if anything it's the opposite.

[Warning]

This is such pretzel logic, holy fuck.

Nothing in that fucking scene even brings up Nazis. Those are literal points the right uses. Unless you think Stormfront simply being there is the reason? They also depicted Stormfront as being motherly, I guess moms are Nazis too.

Try again with an actual argument.

It's scary how close people like you can get to the truth and still not see it. "Hey, these fascist talking points that fit seamlessly with a Nazi character spreading propaganda are exactly like the GoP's talking points." Hmm why might that be...

This show is extremely sharp in its reflection on American politics from the start. Fake celebrities selling their crap to the masses. Corporations exploiting identity politics to boost their image (Maeve). Homelander representing the Bush Post 9/11 era neocon hyper "patriotic" republicans. Stormfront representing the Trump style republicans, spreading racist memes in a way that would make Bannon and Breitbart proud.

[Nasuuna]

are we complaining about a show that uses basic strawman caricatures for equating negativity with political parties?

[Mehrunes]

How does someone not registered legally in a Country pay Taxes? Do they just send an unmarked bag of Money to the IRS?

You can use Individual Taxpayer Identification Number to file taxes without having a social security number. ITIN in general is a a system created for non-citizens without a social security number. And to obtain an ITIN you need neither proof of work authorization, nor proof that you entered US legally. And since illegal immigrants are still technically obligated to pay taxes while tax information of ITIN holders cannot be shared with ICE, the risk of not paying taxes is much greater there. You're more likely to get on the radar that way than by paying taxes. It's likely that most tax returns filed with ITINs nowadays are filed by illegal immigrants.

[Biomega]

You can use Individual Taxpayer Identification Number to file taxes without having a social security number. ITIN in general is a a system created for non-citizens without a social security number. And to obtain an ITIN you need neither proof of work authorization, not proof that you entered US legally. And since illegal immigrants are still technically obligated to pay taxes while tax information of ITIN holders cannot be shared with ICE, the risk of not paying taxes is much greater there. You're more likely to get on the radar that way than by paying taxes. It's likely that most tax returns filed with ITINs nowadays are filed by illegal immigrants.

And it's no coincidence either the system is set up that way - there is a real incentive to having illegal immigrant workers, because it's a labor force you can exploit a lot more easily than citizens. The ITIN is just a way of the government getting its cut, without actually clamping down on them.

After all, there's a REASON people come to the US illegally to work: US employers are there and willing to give them jobs. And nothing pleases them more than to see people blame the illegals themselves, rather than the people who quite openly exploit them for their labor

[ecospherez]

This is such pretzel logic, holy fuck.

Nothing in that fucking scene even brings up Nazis. Those are literal points the right uses. Unless you think Stormfront simply being there is the reason? They also depicted Stormfront as being motherly, I guess moms are Nazis too.

Try again with an actual argument.

you're seriously cringe.

[Dravec]

About 50% of agriculture jobs and 25% of food service jobs are done by illegals. That cheep food you're enjoying? Only exists because of illegal immigrants. Also they pay taxes but get very little in return for those taxes.

The fuck? How deep in the kool aid are you in?

Illegals don’t pay taxes, and they take jobs from actual Americans. They steal identities and murder people.

How fucking empty do you have to be to defend aliens?

those illegal immigrants offer cheap labour,statistics showw if you deported them all one day,that the usa economy would literaly colapse,also blm and antifa ''destroying cities'' is literaly a made up meme with zero facts behind it,fbi stats have every single terrorist attack in the last decade be atributed to some kind of right wing extremist

Those illegals also mooch off taxpayer money, steal jobs from actual citizens, don’t pay taxes, don’t have a license, murder, rape, and bring drugs.

Statistics show you’re making bullshit up and pretending illegals aren’t parasites. How come our economy was in such shambles under Obummer when we had way more illegals than now? How come under Trump we have the strongest economy in US history and are deporting illegals in record numbers? Fuck off.

There are literally hundreds of videos of BLM and Antifa rioting in Portland, Seattle, NYC, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. You are a fucking retard.

[Ivanstone]

The fuck? How deep in the kool aid are you in?

Illegals don’t pay taxes, and they take jobs from actual Americans. They steal identities and murder people.

How fucking empty do you have to be to defend aliens?


Those illegals also mooch off taxpayer money, steal jobs from actual citizens, don’t pay taxes, don’t have a license, murder, rape, and bring drugs.

Statistics show you’re making bullshit up and pretending illegals aren’t parasites. How come our economy was in such shambles under Obummer when we had way more illegals than now? How come under Trump we have the strongest economy in US history and are deporting illegals in record numbers? Fuck off.

There are literally hundreds of videos of BLM and Antifa rioting in Portland, Seattle, NYC, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. You are a fucking retard.

And these statistics are? I posted a link which contains links to government reports. You've posted unsourced propaganda because you got triggered by a TV show.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...workers-taxes/

PS Obama economy and Trump Economy? Almost the same. They were the same until Trump started multiple trade wars and gave a bunch of tax cuts to people who didn't need them. The economy started faltering soon afterwards.