Night Elf Archer Armor & City Guard Updates

[Deleted]

Finally some good looking skimpy armour. I was afraid that they wouldn't make any more of it since there won't be any more class themed tier sets and DH's tier was somewhat "skimpy". Here's hoping for more!

[Deleted]

It's actually great to see the treatment to both. Armor is entirely optional so it's up to you to choose which ones you like.
Instead of forcing everyone to cover up we can have it both ways. In this case you can potentially please everyone.

If they come out as transmoggable armor you might be able to combine parts of it.

[Hyral]

Only issue I have with the nelf armor is how many plate classes will wear it for tanking and look absolutely awful. Other than that great news all around!

Now, I hope the other armor sets are not heritage armor. The dwarf one is just the hunter boost armor but blue instead of green, the human is just the stormwind guard set from garrisons, undead is BC pvp recolor of the onslaught set, and the draenei is one of the paladin pvp sets from Cata. They can definitely put more work into them like they have Allied races and the nelf ones. Lazy news all around.

[Ealyssa]

They are literally wearing the clothes of a female.

Le what ?

[The5thVegetable]

Regarding how much it protects them, it does make some sense. Certainly not in most battlefield situations, yeah, but the Night Elves (at least according to oldish lore) are infamously good at guirella (did I spell that correctly?) warfare, and if an unseen host of night elven archers are suddenly firing at you from all directions, they hardly need armor. In all likelihood, you're dead before you can even react, and by the time you do react, you need to pick a direction in which to run to chase an unseen foe, which you will most likely never far even if you live long enough to try.

So in that context, it makes perfect sense! But I do agree that wearing it on a battlefield is absurd. I'd love if there were alternative leg and chest pieces for both genders that fully covers the torso and legs! (Not that it's gonna happen)

[Jastall]

Regarding how much it protects them, it does make some sense. Certainly not in most battlefield situations, yeah, but the Night Elves (at least according to oldish lore) are infamously good at guirella (did I spell that correctly?) warfare, and if an unseen host of night elven archers are suddenly firing at you from all directions, they hardly need armor. In all likelihood, you're dead before you can even react, and by the time you do react, you need to pick a direction in which to run to chase an unseen foe, which you will most likely never far even if you live long enough to try.

So in that context, it makes perfect sense! But I do agree that wearing it on a battlefield is absurd. I'd love if there were alternative leg and chest pieces for both genders that fully covers the torso and legs! (Not that it's gonna happen)

Even in a guerilla context, running around a forest nearly naked is stupid, you'll just end up with lots of scratches for no reason even as an agile elf. Light cloth or leather will provide a minimum of protection without hindering movement in any way, hell the metal bra is more restrictive than these things probably.

Now obviously Warcraft isn't about realism at all and the massive shoulderplates and 200 pound weapons used by other types of characters are just as ridiculous as these bikinis, but realistically there's really no situation where wearing that type of ''armor'' is best in practice unless you literally can afford nothing else.

[Powerogue]

I'm not a fan of skimpy armor like that (you're a fighter, not a stripper dammit) but credit where credit's due, the male one is just as revealing as the female one so I have no special problem with it either. I'd have been a way bigger fan of the armor worn by Huntress Kasperian in the Tomb of Sargeras, now that one looks both flavorful and awesome.

That said, for the people who want these armor for their characters, you will probably have to wait as it looks really unfinished compared to the standards of quality we have today. So I doubt it's a player-ready set, at least at this time.

Agreed. I see no reason why we can't have both.

[Katie45]

Agreed. I see no reason why we can't have both.

Cause that male set doesnt exist.

[Mellrod]

It's only okie for orcs to show skin huh, you realism that this is a game with you and space goats, fight naked spaced demons, and half naked horde in all sorts of battles right?

I knew someone would try to hit me with the "realism when there is [insert fantasy race]?". That doesn't mean simple physics and laws of reality can't apply. Nowhere did I mention anything about Orcs, sure it can look cool sometimes, but wearing the barest possible undies and a bra to battle has always been a pet peeve of mine no matter the race, so don't build a strawman over that please. I'm pretty sure you would feel the same way I do if Dwarves or Humans for example had entire armies of units in their underwear. I just can't imagine these models actually being used in a battle without looking ridiculous. Plus this armor doesn't provide as much potential for a flashy look, a really cool silhouette or armor that looks decorative and indicative of the race's culture. They're just naked.

Not saying you cant show skin, but seriously, they're just fucking naked. You're a soldier not a stripper. Yea we have space goats, orcs, demons, etc. but in most cases they tend to have more armor than these fruit-of-the-loom archers. My point isn't the armor's showing of skin, it's that this armor was made to show off a character's body rather than actually compliment or enhance the character's appearance. Therefore it'd look rather silly in a serious setting, especially due to how unfinished it looks regardless of taste. Tauren have equally breezy traditional garb, and yet from the totems on the back to the headdress and war paints there are so many motifs, pieces, and details of the set that actually communicate to you something about the race and character. You instantly see the native american inspirations, and you instantly recognize it as Tauren armor. Same goes for most Orcs and Demons too. (Draenei on the other hand actually don't tend to show much skin at all).

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if you actually look at the armor its made out of leather with some metal engraving, and not to mention how much more iconic that set is to the ones you linked

I mean yeah, sure everyone remembers that one victoria's secret elf from the vanilla cinematic, but what i'm saying is, [B]if you were shown the armor, suspended in air, on it's own, and were asked which race it belonged to, you would have a much harder time identifying this single loincloth or bikini and panties over say, a full set of Stormwind Knight armor, or some Orgrimmar plate. Why? Because those last two actually have their own identities[/B]. The only identity for this armor is it's busty wearer. Why? Because it's an early 2000s advertisement sex appeal piece to pull in horny teenagers.

It's for this reason I consider the armor I linked to be more 'iconic'.

[derpkitteh]

imo, it doesn't really suit the male. looks too feminine.

also, idk why this is on archers. it was a druid in the cinematic that wore it.

[Laerrus]

Well here we go, some prudish and very triggered individual is going to bitch and say that Blizz is oversexualizing people by introducing these models in game.

They are literally wearing the clothes of a female.

Naw, it looks more like a cross between a loincloth and a kilt. Both versions of the armor look pretty cool.

[Jastall]

Cause that male set doesnt exist.

They could easily adapt it. That armor set looks much better and IMO has far more character than a glorified bikini. If I had to choose between the two for a prospective Night Elf heritage armor, I would take it in a heartbeat.

[derpkitteh]

I can really dig this. Especially if it means trolls can finally get this cool set or armor across all classes instead of it being piecemeal mail/cloth/etc. and therefore unusable.

[IMG]http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/wow_art/troll.jpg[IMG]

i feel like this dude's balls probably sag to the very end of that loin cloth.

[Deleted]

They are literally wearing the clothes of a female.

or it is elven Armor.. not female armor. You might belive that all Light clothes is for women, but, it could just be Night elf armor.

[derpkitteh]

Well here we go, some prudish and very triggered individual is going to bitch and say that Blizz is oversexualizing people by introducing these models in game.

i'm not bothered by the skin, this is 100% night elven aesthetic.

i'm bothered by the fact that this isn't sentinel armor, this is druid armor. i'd rather have a new iteration on their sentinel armor than this. like, add some nelf druids to army and put them in this, give the sentinels something that suits them.

[Mellrod]

I'm not a fan of skimpy armor like that (you're a fighter, not a stripper dammit) but credit where credit's due, the male one is just as revealing as the female one so I have no special problem with it either. I'd have been a way bigger fan of the armor worn by Huntress Kasperian in the Tomb of Sargeras, now that one looks both flavorful and awesome.

That said, for the people who want these armor for their characters, you will probably have to wait as it looks really unfinished compared to the standards of quality we have today. So I doubt it's a player-ready set, at least at this time.

This. So much this. No idea why people are dogging me for feeling pretty much the same way as you do here. There is certainly a balance that should be struck here between skin-showing and amazing armor/outfits. The outfits from OP's link are definitely too far on one side of that spectrum imo.

[Nuggsy]

Those last two still show some skin, but it's still more tasteful and a bit more functional-looking than those models we have now.

To an elf there isn't anything shameful about the body. There a little more mature than humans and don't have the same morality. Especially when you factor in their belief that they are made in the Goddess's image. I'd argue that covering everything up all the time is more 'distasteful' than embracing the Goddess's creation - at least in their mind.

[Underbottom]

This is Druid armor not Archer/Sentinel armor. Which means the guys wore it first.

[Mellrod]

To an elf there isn't anything shameful about the body. There a little more mature than humans and don't have the same morality. Especially when you factor in their belief that they are made in the Goddess's image. I'd argue that covering everything up all the time is more 'distasteful' than embracing the Goddess's creation - at least in their mind.

Right, but is that really a reason to go out there into battle completely nude? I mean especially when I've provided countless examples of night elves who wear full-covering armor and even heavier looking plate armor in the lore, and even fan-made concepts that still look so natural and work really well with the race. I don't think there's anything in Night Elf lore particularly regarding wearing little amounts of clothing though.

Except Ravencrest forces were never part of Sentinels army (Sentinels were founded after first BL invasion when Hyjal was created). Warden also mostly wear light armor. Only high ranking members like Maiev/Cordana were full plate.

True but being a part of Sentinel's army was never in question. The point was to show that plenty of kaldorei armor out there is more than just loincloths and whatnot.

[Underbottom]

Right, but is that really a reason to go out there completely nude? I've provided countless examples of night elves who wear full-covering armor and even heavier looking plate armor in the lore, and even fan-made concepts that look so natural and work well with the race. I don't think there's anything in Night Elf lore particularly regarding wearing little amounts of clothing.



True but being a part of Sentinel's army was never in question. The point was to show that plenty of kaldorei armor out there is more than just loincloths and whatnot.

This is druid armor. Bare is for fite not Night elf.