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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    If you want.

    I'll just be here voting in politicians that keep Seattle a sanctuary city.
    And I'll just be here cheering when armies of ICE agents swarm Seattle and arrest illegal invaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Some people clearly didn't read the article. His wife is a citizen, his kids are citizens. He tried to get to legal but the immigration system is a mess. The courts didnt think he was too much of a risk or they wouldve forcibly removed him. As far we know his only crime is that he overstayed his visa.

    Overstaying is unlawful but not a criminal offense, not that some people understand the difference. A working man married to a citizen thats also father to two citizens shouldnt be caught up in the system or treated like a foreign invader.
    Pretty much this. It can take a substantial amount of time and ruinous amounts of money to legally become a citizen, during which time people put down roots, build a life, and contribute to the community.

    At which point the gestapo come along and ruin all that because the real crime is offending ignorant voters in red America.

    As a legal immigrant, gotta say I feel pretty entitled to have an opinion on the subject. The time and money that I put into the process isn't remotely devalued by people "skipping the queue", but then again I'm not a sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    And I'll just be here cheering when armies of ICE agents swarm Seattle and arrest illegal invaders.
    We're already well aware that you're keen on using our tax dollars to push your policy on people that don't want it.

    Wait, isn't that exactly what your lot complains about constantly?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MementosMori View Post
    Calling him an immigrant is about as honest as calling burglar a housing market researcher. What part of the immigration process was he in?
    married to a US CITIZEN having US CITIZEN kids what part of family values do you support? the right wing onew where you screw porn stars or ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    If you want.

    I'll just be here voting in politicians that keep Seattle a sanctuary city.
    And enjoy the increased crime because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by araine View Post
    married to a US CITIZEN having US CITIZEN kids what part of family values do you support? the right wing onew where you screw porn stars or ?
    He over stayed his visa and is deported what is controversial about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Pretty much this. It can take a substantial amount of time and ruinous amounts of money to legally become a citizen, during which time people put down roots, build a life, and contribute to the community.

    At which point the gestapo come along and ruin all that because the real crime is offending ignorant voters in red America.

    As a legal immigrant, gotta say I feel pretty entitled to have an opinion on the subject. The time and money that I put into the process isn't remotely devalued by people "skipping the queue", but then again I'm not a sociopath.

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    We're already well aware that you're keen on using our tax dollars to push your policy on people that don't want it.

    Wait, isn't that exactly what your lot complains about constantly?
    Don't put down roots and build a life in a country you've invaded illegally. Simple. These invaders aren't "skipping the queue". They're ignoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    That's not really a justification for staying in a country without permission to be there. His wife and kids are irrelevant.
    Not wanting abandoning and kids is irrelevant? What? Im glad most officals disagree with that authoritarian approach. Again, if he was an actual risk or burden then he would have been forced out years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    And enjoy the increased crime because of it.
    Please. Seattle's not even in the top ten.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Not wanting abandoning and kids is irrelevant? What? Im glad most officals disagree with that authoritarian approach. Again, if he was an actual risk or burden then he would have been forced out years ago.
    New leadership says they want to enforce the immigration laws that are currently on the books, so he has to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Not wanting abandoning and kids is irrelevant? What? Im glad most officals disagree with that authoritarian approach. Again, if he was an actual risk or burden then he would have been forced out years ago.
    If he doesn't have the papers in order he can be deported. Why do you take issue with this fact? Having family in a country does not automatically mean you have a right to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    Don't put down roots and build a life in a country you've invaded illegally.
    Empathy, please.

    Also, most of them do come here legally.

    Simple. These invaders aren't "skipping the queue". They're ignoring it.
    Same difference. Fuck the US immigration process, I heartily endorse subverting it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    I mean,he was there illegally,he got deported for it,what's so hard to understand?

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Empathy, please.

    Also, most of them do come here legally.



    Same difference. Fuck the US immigration process, I heartily endorse subverting it.
    You're welcome to leave if you don't like how the US does things.
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Please. Seattle's not even in the top ten.
    Your defense is remain a sanctuary because your not in the top ten yet for violent crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    You're welcome to leave if you don't like how the US does things.
    Nah, I'd rather do what I've done and continue to enjoy a generous paycheck that comes at taxpayer's expense just to spite you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Same difference. Fuck the US immigration process, I heartily endorse subverting it.
    Well that's it. A drooling moron on the internet doesn't like a law. Rip it out of the books!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    Your defense is remain a sanctuary because your not in the top ten yet for violent crime?
    My defense is remaining a sanctuary city because I don't feel it appropriate or humane for my local government to assist the stasi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    My defense is remaining a sanctuary city because I don't feel it appropriate or humane for my local government to assist the stasi.
    Waaa, everybody I don't like is a nazi! Fucking petulant children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    See here we have this thing called presumption of innocence and due process.
    Umm those things already happened?

    "According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Villavicencio was ordered to leave the country by an immigration judge in 2010"

    Not following the court order is most definitely not innocence. In fact if you don't follow a court order, you can be kept in prison until you do, without time restriction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    Waaa, everybody I don't like is a nazi! Fucking petulant children.
    The stasi were the East German police, lol.

    If you're going to toss out talking points at least get the historicity right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    If he doesn't have the papers in order he can be deported. Why do you take issue with this fact? Having family in a country does not automatically mean you have a right to be there.
    I do take issue. The system is slow and punishes otherwise law abiding people. And I didnt say he had the right to be here, I said its unfortunate and criticized the system. He broke a law but the law is broken.

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