Old topic but, Undead Paladins, why not?

[Rad1um]

Why bring "new" allied races in when we have been asking for a mix race/class of the ones we have now.

Look, I know what you're gonna say, "you cant have Undead Paladins because the 'Light' will do them in and they cant wield it..."

Fine argument understood... HOWEVER, what about Undead Priests? Are they not wielding the light? CHECKMATE ROUND EARTHERS!

Point im trying to make is, I would like to see Undead Paladins and Orc Druids. I mean, Thrall is pretty much a Druid if you think about it hard enough.

And Human Shamans? I mean Blizzard allowed GOBLIN Shamans, to do what?? Barter with the elements and strike a deal so they can be summoned?

What do yallses think?

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Why not? Because Undead Paladins is fucking stupid and should never happen. That's why.

[Lochton]

Why bring "new" allied races in when we have been asking for a mix race/class of the ones we have now.

Look, I know what you're gonna say, "you cant have Undead Paladins because the 'Light' will do them in and they cant wield it..."

Fine argument understood... HOWEVER, what about Undead Priests? Are they not wielding the light? CHECKMATE ROUND EARTHERS!

Point im trying to make is, I would like to see Undead Paladins and Orc Druids. I mean, Thrall is pretty much a Druid if you think about it hard enough.

And Human Shamans? I mean Blizzard allowed GOBLIN Shamans, to do what?? Barter with the elements and strike a deal so they can be summoned?

What do yallses think?

Uhm, I can't counter the others but, it's been explained ingame by quests the differences of Paladins and Priests. Priests wields the light as a tool, while Paladins imbue and empower themselves. One thing is most likely to do more harm to them than the other. You should put your argument on the topic of 'unholy light'.

As for the Thrall argument, no, he's a shaman. He listens to other spirits than that of druids. He isn't even close resembling to that of a druid - other than, 'nature'.

And no, don't want human shamans, fuck that shit.

[Crihnoss]

You might not remember but being anti undead was what paladins were all about until the heavy streamline began, and Blizzard dropped the support for class RP tools in favor of only straight DPS, healing and tanking tools.

So yeah... Being anti-yourself is rather stupid

[Rad1um]

You might not remember but being anti undead was what paladins were all about until the heavy streamline began, and Blizzard dropped the support for class RP tools in favor of only straight DPS, healing and tanking tools.

So yeah... Being anti-yourself is rather stupid

Not really. You can literally hate yourself and still function. Nothing wrong with that at all. I mean look at Hitler...

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Why not? Because Undead Paladins is fucking stupid and should never happen. That's why.

Whoa pump the breaks on the hate train Fox and Friends

[Seramore]

Undead Paladins, why?

I'm good off of Undead Paladins, luckily they won't ever happen anyways.

[cocomen2]

undead paladins STILL more sense than tauren paladins, if even cow can weild light ... what stops forsaken ( if race can be Priest they must have to be paladins too) - its already knows that Light power isnt same for everyone - holy light, sun light,naru light. SO undead can weild some other different form of light .


RP question, what if human that was paladin when he was alive - become undead , does he instanly forget how to use light or he become dark baddy mage or rogue?

[Crihnoss]

Tools like:
Turn undead - undead fear
Exorcism - Only damaged undead(and demons)
Sense undead - AKA track undead

Back in WCIII Holy Light worked as a heal on living units and as a damage tool on undead units.

So, they where undead hunters/killers. Straight out of any classic fantasy setting.

[Oakshana]

Look, I know what you're gonna say, "you cant have Undead Paladins because the 'Light' will do them in and they cant wield it..."

Fine argument understood... HOWEVER, what about Undead Priests? Are they not wielding the light? CHECKMATE ROUND EARTHERS!

My understanding is that, lore-wise, Undead Priests are Shadow. The include holy and discipline for gameplay reasons. And, yes... there are undead priests that weird the light (IE: Alonsus Faol), but they are rare, few & far between. They are the exception to the rule.

I think undead paladins would also carry a stigma because the paladin order despises undeath. I think an undead paladin would be an anathema to them.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Whoa pump the breaks on the hate train Fox and Friends

It's just really annoying when the same idea that when you think about it doesn't make sense at all. I've seen this get posted for years.

[Sorshen]

They don't make much sense but...

Why not? Because Undead Paladins is fucking stupid and should never happen. That's why.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sir_Zeliek
was cool as fuck.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

They don't make much sense but...



https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sir_Zeliek
was cool as fuck.

One exception to the rule doesn't negate what I said. You don't see any Death Knight Pandarens running around except the one in WoD.

[Zabatakis]

Why not? Because Undead Paladins is fucking stupid and should never happen. That's why.

True, however counterpoint gnome warriors.


Also, what are the light forged undead or w/e in the book? I will take pm if its spoilers.

[Rad1um]

One exception to the rule doesn't negate what I said. You don't see any Death Knight Pandarens running around except the one in WoD.

OMG YESSSSSSSS DK PANDAREN!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!! This is why I made the thread. Better ideas than mine <3

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

True, however counterpoint gnome warriors.


Also, what are the light forged undead or w/e in the book? I will take pm if its spoilers.

I never understood the argument against gnome warriors. Anyone can pick up a sword and shield.

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OMG YESSSSSSSS DK PANDAREN!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!! This is why I made the thread. Better ideas than mine <3

It's time stop.

[Rad1um]

It's time stop.

[Razion]

Scarlet Crusade and mindless Scourge of Icecrown (plus Zeliek) seem to be able to figure it out just fine.

If they were a paladin in life, they should still be a paladins in death. There were a lot of paladins in Lordaeron.
Besides, a lot of new Forsaken have been risen recently by Sylvanas, so there are even more sources for paladins.

Above all else Undead Paladins are fun and cool.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but is the light's aversion to the Undead relevant regarding the recent comment in the Windrunner comic that the Void thinks that Sylvanas "serves the true enemy"?
If I remember correctly, there have been comments before that the Void sees the Light as a brother, who will eventually return. Perhaps they share the same ultimate allegiance. Death is the true enemy. That's why Light and Shadow seek to dismantle the Legion. The Lord of Death, whatever he may be, used the Legion as a pawn, with Kil'Jaeden enacting his will by creating his most powerful servant, the Lich King. I think Blizzard are thinking ahead. We need another, bigger bad guy when we stop the Void and the Light, and it looks like that bad guy might be death itself.

[The Stormbringer]

One exception to the rule doesn't negate what I said. You don't see any Death Knight Pandarens running around except the one in WoD.

Well we should. ;~; Or at least, we should now that Acherus is starting to raise new Death Knights.

[Okacz]

Why not? Because Undead Paladins is fucking stupid and should never happen. That's why.

Paladin is pretty much a priest who is kind of tired of your shit and just wants to hit you in the face. At least that's how they are in WoW.

Can forsaken be priests? Yeah. Can they hit shit with 2 handed weapons? Somehow, yeah. So fuck it, if gnomes can be Warriors standing toe to toe with Taurens, or huge ass Trolls can be sneaky Rogues, Undead should be able to Paladin.