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    Danish circumcision ban to go to parliament

    https://www.thelocal.dk/20180601/dan...-to-parliament

    A petition calling for a ban on male circumcision in Denmark will now go to parliament after organisers said Friday it had attracted more than the 50,000 signatures required.
    "We're really happy, but now the real work begins. It's an important but small step," said Lena Nyhus of the Intact Denmark group told news agency Ritzau.

    The petition however faces little chance of success because it has not attracted support from any of the main political parties, though the Socialist People's Party has voiced its support.

    In Denmark, citizens can require parliament to debate an issue by gathering a minimum of 50,000 signatures.

    The petition, which cites the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, calls for a six-year prison sentence for those carrying out circumcisions on boys under the age of 18, unless there is a medical reason.

    The same penalty has existed since 2003 for the internationally condemned practice of excision, or female genital mutilation.

    "Society has a special obligation to protect the fundamental rights of the child until they've reached an age and maturity where they can take on this responsibility themselves," the petition reads.

    Between 1,000 and 2,000 circumcisions are carried out in Denmark per year, according to health officials.

    The ritual removal of a boy's foreskin is practiced by a majority of Jews and Muslims.

    The Jewish community has protested against the petition, saying the ritual has been practiced in Denmark without any problems for more than 400 years.

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    I think people have the right to practice their religion. The issue is that one person's religious rights end at another person's body.
    These that study this aspect also note there is Brit Shalom. And that Judaism is able and has reformed extensively.
    The biggest issue is that any discussion stops immediately under the cry of antisemitism and Nazis.

    85% of the population supports the ban and yet the politicians are anxious to take a stance. It'll be interesting with next years election coming up - what'll come of this. Will they bow to foreign and domestic lobbying efforts like the Icelandic government did not too long ago? We'll have to wait and see.
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    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.
    People think kids should choose for themselves when they've grown to understand what's happening instead of their parents making a decision that's not theirs to make.
    If you knew the candle was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

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    Seems logical to me...

    And the rationale most people use to justify the practice is "muh daddy had a cut penor its tradition" (creepy) or using religion as a justification for mutilation of sexual organs...

    Which is dangerous.

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    They can always do it after 18.
    Do you hear the voices too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiwack View Post
    People think kids should choose for themselves when they've grown to understand what's happening instead of their parents making a decision that's not theirs to make.
    Exactly why I signed the petition.
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    I am not one person.

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    It should be made a law. Traditional or religious reasons are not good enough to justify such a procedure, it has to be medically motivated.
    "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.
    You're a girl so your opinion on what happens to mens cocks is literally worthless
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.
    We anteaters need to stick together.

    I cant believe no one said that word yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.
    Bet you wouldn't say the same about FGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    You're a girl so your opinion on what happens to mens cocks is literally worthless
    I can still have preferences in how I like them to look.

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    Obviously, we should forbid baby mutilation, it's pretty disturbing how that can be a debate in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    It's quite funny that people freak out so much over circumcision to the point they want it banned.
    I dunno, mutilating children bodies without their consent seems to be kind of a big deal in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    I can still have preferences in how I like them to look.
    same applies to men, you know
    danish women will have to grow accustomed to uncircumsized men, if the ban hits. my guess: they will not throw a tantrum und have sex anyway.

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    Forced circumcision should be banned.

    A man capable of consent should be able to get a circumcision should he desire so and since babies cannot give consent they shouldn't have the procedure forced upon them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    I can still have preferences in how I like them to look.
    Sexual preference shouldn't override bodily autonomy. If you want to choose to undergo a circumcision at 18, 17, 16 or even 15, I wouldn't have a problem with that because one can comprehend the choice they're about to make and more importantly make it for themselves. Newborns cannot do that, they cannot consent because they lack a great deal of cognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    I can still have preferences in how I like them to look.
    Sure. Men generally dont like gross roast beef labias, but you don't see anyone hacking away at new born girls.
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiwack View Post
    I think people have the right to practice their religion. The issue is that one person's religious rights end at another person's body.
    These that study this aspect also note there is Brit Shalom. And that Judaism is able and has reformed extensively.
    The biggest issue is that any discussion stops immediately under the cry of antisemitism and Nazis.

    85% of the population supports the ban and yet the politicians are anxious to take a stance. It'll be interesting with next years election coming up - what'll come of this. Will they bow to foreign and domestic lobbying efforts like the Icelandic government did not too long ago? We'll have to wait and see.


    I agree, but only adult should have the full rights to practice their religion, forcing a child to undergo something like this should comes under abuse, A child can not consent, hell I don't think we should force children in to religions either.
    Last edited by dunhildas; 2018-06-04 at 06:19 PM.

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    Did you know the Jewish mohel SUCK the circumcized baby penis' blood after the procedure?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7620446.html

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