Virginia elementary school drops Confederate general from name, changes to Obama

[Machismo]

This. There's a reason we in the US don't put living people on money. What if they screw up big and their legacy is tainted? Would be a huge expensive to replace the money with them on it. I'm a firm believer that no things should be named after people still living. Money, roads, airports, anything. Feel free to name things after them after they're gone and their legacy is secure.

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Wasn't he assassinated by his own former followers cause he was planning to moderate his beliefs and talks and his people wanted him to stay hardline? Not really sure I'd want a school named after him either. I can just imagine the school motto "If you become the spokesperson for extremism you'd better stay extreme or the very people you speak for will kill you."

Maybe they also shouldn't put murderous traitors who are already dead as the names of schools. It would appear they are trying to fix an old mistake.

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Really not sure what your problem with me is.
I'm not angry at all, just confused as I noted above.
Stop making up shit to fit your agenda please.

Also I would not say the same thing about Trump, I'd say much worse. At least I liked Obama as a President and hes a decent person from what I can tell. Trump is a dick, spends way to much time on twitter and just has no clue what hes doing which makes him a shit President.

But again, what does this have to do with anything? Stop bringing up Trump is shit he has nothing to do with. This forum is being spammed enough about the orange clown as it is. Just sick and tired of seeing his shit every time I open my favorite forum.

Why is it your favorite forum, if you keep seeing him everywhere? You could always choose to ignore threads about him... alas, you don't.

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No, someone explain to me please

How simple must you be to think this somehow erases history?

I'm sorry, we were talking about someone, but it's suddenly gone from my mind. I wish there was some way I could stop people from erasing history from my brain.

[ipaq]

Slowly but surely history is being erased, won't be surprised to see the US flag get changed because reasons..

Like you in a few minutes, racists are not and should not be remembered but, at best, vilified.

[Orlong]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/us/ri...ama/index.html




Good decision. Hopefully all the other schools that are still named after Confederate traitors will soon follow suit.

Schools shouldnt be named after ANYONE who is still living unless they personally donated at least 50% of the money needed to build it. Schools should only be named after their location anyway so as not to cause controversy politically on either side. The only exception would be if they were to allow corporate sponsorship like they do with arenas which I wholeheartedly endorse. We could use it as a way to reduce property taxes and yet still keep the schools funded. Nobody would care if their kids were going to the Comcast Middle School, or the Quicken Loans High School if it meant a million dollars went to the school to fund it

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can you name school after a president who is still in office? i would love my boy to go to Trump school but with him likely staying in the oval for 20+ years i fear he may have to go somewhere else

Trump will NEVER get a school named after him. 90% of educators are left wing SJW socialists. They would never approve putting his name on a school. Remember how none of the schools had pictures of Bush in the classrooms but they all had pictures of Obama

[Machismo]

Schools shouldnt be named after ANYONE who is still living unless they personally donated at least 50% of the money needed to build it. Schools should only be named after their location anyway so as not to cause controversy politically on either side. The only exception would be if they were to allow corporate sponsorship like they do with arenas which I wholeheartedly endorse. We could use it as a way to reduce property taxes and yet still keep the schools funded. Nobody would care if their kids were going to the Comcast Middle School, or the Quicken Loans High School if it meant a million dollars went to the school to fund it

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Trump will NEVER get a school named after him. 90% of educators are left wing SJW socialists. They would never approve putting his name on a school. Remember how none of the schools had pictures of Bush in the classrooms but they all had pictures of Obama

But, as you said, you don't want Trump to have his name on a school, so you are getting EXACTLY what you want.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Slowly but surely history is being erased, won't be surprised to see the US flag get changed because reasons..

Well, I mean technically the US flag has been changed 28 times already.

Yeah, I'm that guy.

All for the name change. More concerned about why you have schools that are 95% African American. I thought segregation was over?

This just means you don't understand segregation.
Schools still have to pull their student population from the district where they are located, so the population of that district determines student demographics. It's common sense, and why you're not arguing the opposite. I live in Minnesota, and you better believe we have schools, especially once you get away from the Twin Cities metro, that are at least 95% white. Are you commenting on segregation there? No, because rural Minnesota is simply predominantly white. Just like other areas are predominantly [insert demographic].

Segregation would be if you had two schools in the same district and all the white kids were required to go to School A and all non-white children were required to attend School B and banned from School A.

[Logwyn]

Traitors shouldn't be honored as heroes, but they also shouldn't be forgotten either.

Guess we should get to renaming Washington and Washington DC something else then. How about Cascadia and "Swamp SC"? This argument is silly as keeping Confederate generals names of places if people in the community want to change it to something else.

[Tiwack]

All for the name change. More concerned about why you have schools that are 95% African American. I thought segregation was over?

It is but "Redlining" still exists to some extent along with the scars of the lasting results.

[Noxx79]

Guess we should get to renaming Washington and Washington DC something else then. How about Cascadia and "Swamp SC"? This argument is silly as keeping Confederate generals names of places if people in the community want to change it to something else.

Are there any George Washington schools in Britain? What a dumb argument.

[Allybeboba]

One has to wonder how much money this will cost the school district. And could this money be better spent for education purposes.

It cost HISD over $1.25 million just to change names a few schools in 2016. And now 14 are at risk of being closed due to “performance” issues. My opinion... People are worried about the wrong thing and money needs to flow into education.

Cheers

[Independent voter]

J.E.B Stuart owned 2 slaves. If there are black kids going to this elementary school I can see them being upset by it and we should change the name for that reason alone.

[Orlong]

They voted and the people spoke. I don't see a problem here.

Actually the people did NOT vote. The school board voted out the top 3 that students voted for, and students shouldnt even get to vote because they arent old enough or mature enough, hence why Wishtree was one of the finalists, and of course someone would vote for Obama (Public schools are democrat indoctrination camps at the end of the day). Im actually surprised Schooly McShoolface or Mister Hanky wasnt one of the choices the school board had to pick from

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People saying that it is erasing history: absolute hilarity.

We have these wonderous things called books, recently invented places called museums, and by-golly-gosh; this amazing all new technology called THE INTERNET.

But the thing that none of those do is get the names of people out there who may have done bad things to learn about them. I have no idea who this Stuart guy is, but since he was mentioned Im going to go research him a bit and see what he did. By taking his name off the school, many people wont even know he existed so they wont be able to learn from his mistakes

[Machismo]

Actually the people did NOT vote. The school board voted.

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But the thing that none of those do is get the names of people out there who may have done bad things to learn about them. I have no idea who this Stuart guy is, but since he was mentioned Im going to go research him a bit and see what he did. By taking his name off the school, many people wont even know he existed so they wont be able to learn from his mistakes

And that is one of the things they get to vote on.

[grexly75]

Well, I mean technically the US flag has been changed 28 times already.

Yeah, I'm that guy.

With the way things are going was thinking more of big red flag with a yellow Hammer and Sickle.. Would not surprise me that some form of that isn't tried..

[Machismo]

With the way things are going was thinking more of big red flag with a yellow Hammer and Sickle.. Would not surprise me that some form of that isn't tried..

Yeah, the United States is shifting more towards authoritarianism and white nationalism than Stalinism. You forgot who is currently in charge, and fucking everything up.

[lockedout]

Actually the people did NOT vote. The school board voted out the top 3 that students voted for, and students shouldnt even get to vote because they arent old enough or mature enough, hence why Wishtree was one of the finalists

The students are people and they go to school there. What's wrong with Wishtree?

[Faroth]

Wishtree sounds like an awesome name for an elementary school! Disappointed they went with standard "name after important figure" choice. Wishtree has more potential for inspiring imagery imo.

[grexly75]

Yeah, the United States is shifting more towards authoritarianism and white nationalism than Stalinism. You forgot who is currently in charge, and fucking everything up.

Pretty much but with how things are being portrayed, I would say that a form of Communism is slowly starting to appear in the US, also Canada the UK and some areas of Europe..

[dunhildas]

"Traitors shouldn't be honoured"


idiots forget how America was formed from treason, good thing the reminder is coming up, or as Obama once said "Firework display" because even he forgot what the Fourth of July was about.

[Machismo]

Pretty much but with how things are being portrayed, I would say that a form of Communism is slowly starting to appear in the US, also Canada the UK and some areas of Europe..

Well, I think you have a point, but I would rather call it socialism. What's weird, is that a large part of that is actually coming from people on the right, not just the left. We're seeing that in the United States with Trump's push for a trade war, and the nationalistic protectionist policies. We've always expected it from the left, but it's rather strange when "conservatives" are pushing for the same bullshit in a different wrapper.

[grexly75]

Wishtree sounds like an awesome name for an elementary school! Disappointed they went with standard "name after important figure" choice. Wishtree has more potential for inspiring imagery imo.

Yeah would of been a better choice than your standard important figure routine.. When you see they renamed said institution so people don't have to remember someone people despise.. Thing is who is to say that 100 to 200 years from now they do it again for whatever reason they can think of..