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    Allied races - Horde Worgen animations

    So, the trend for Allied races seems to be reskinning other races for the large part.

    Nelf -> Highborne
    Belf -> Velf

    Draeni -> lightforge draeni
    Tauren -> HM tauren
    Orc (fel) -> mag'har
    Dwarf -> dark iron
    Troll -> zandalari (?)

    Orc (upright) -> kul'tiran (?)

    So we've had a small interchange of animations so far, and there are other speculations going on like:
    Goblin -> Alliance Vulpera
    Undead -> Alliance Lightforge Undead

    So, Allied races seem largely like reskins with some different flavour to them, and I'm fine with the concept. The question is, will they continue to translate animation sets other from one faction to the other? The LF undead speculation makes me think they will, so the question is, what could they introduce to the horde that would have worgen animations? Will we get undead worgens? Will Zandalari's use worgen animations?

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    Why would vulpera be Alliance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Why would vulpera be Alliance?
    Not a clue, it's speculated. Lightforge undead are hinted at heavily though.

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    Don't the Sethrak cover that? Snek people with Worgen Animations.

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    Hey, hey, hey! Vulpera for the Horde! They're awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Why would vulpera be Alliance?
    because the horde dont want them?

    (i have not seen the bfa questlines regarding them even though i know they are in a horde zone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Don't the Sethrak cover that? Snek people with Worgen Animations.
    Could do, would their faces work with the mesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollioswoop View Post
    Could do, would their faces work with the mesh?
    Wut. They have their own models but use the animations of Worgen in combat.

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    Male Zandalari actually use Night Elf animations (With a couple exceptions). The women use troll ones though.

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    How could an undead be lightforged? Light destroy them.

    They could have something like profane light (like those undead paladins of Wotlk) but because is not really light, is more a corrupted dark/evil energy similar to light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varamar View Post
    How could an undead be lightforged? Light destroy them.

    They could have something like profane light (like those undead paladins of Wotlk) but because is not really light, is more a corrupted dark/evil energy similar to light.
    According the latest novel, it can happen if both Necromancy and the Light are used together during the resurrection process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollioswoop View Post
    Not a clue, it's speculated. Lightforge undead are hinted at heavily though.
    Vulpera work exclusively with the Horde, so definitely not Alliance.

    And I'm pretty sure the point of Lightforged undead is that they aren't decayed, so I don't know why they'd use the undead model instead of just a normal human one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Wut. They have their own models but use the animations of Worgen in combat.
    Maybe they'd use like a modified worgen model or something. The face is definitely long enough, it just seems to be wider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Time Sage View Post
    Male Zandalari actually use Night Elf animations (With a couple exceptions). The women use troll ones though.
    Is that NPCs? They usually use custom animation sets, and Nelf is often the basis for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varamar View Post
    How could an undead be lightforged? Light destroy them.

    They could have something like profane light (like those undead paladins of Wotlk) but because is not really light, is more a corrupted dark/evil energy similar to light.
    It's a whole new thing, you should take a look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Sage View Post
    According the latest novel, it can happen if both Necromancy and the Light are used together during the resurrection process.
    So if Sylvanas where to make a deal with a valakyr with light powers we could have lightforged undead?

    Kinda goes against my concept of undead but I would sure as hell play one as a paladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varamar View Post
    So if Sylvanas where to make a deal with a valakyr with light powers we could have lightforged undead?

    Kinda goes against my concept of undead but I would sure as hell play one as a paladin.
    I think the likelihood is, if Alli get lightforge undead, Horde will get fleshy undeads for human animations etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollioswoop View Post
    Maybe they'd use like a modified worgen model or something. The face is definitely long enough, it just seems to be wider.
    I don't think you are actually understanding what I'm saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I don't think you are actually understanding what I'm saying here.
    Preset armours for NPCs working, and every usable armour mesh in the game working, are very different. They've already put in the leg work for worgens, I don't think they'd want to create an entirely new mesh for an allied race. It might be possible for them to adjust the headpiece on its own. I do see what you're saying, but it doesn't quite fit the grain of allied races as they've been given to us so far.

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    The premise of this post seems to be that as the Alliance Vulpera will be using the Goblin model base, their Horde counterpart will be using the Worgen model base.

    The problem with this stance however is that literally ever single sign points to Vulpera going Horde, from Vulpera greater interaction with the Horde to their models being flagged in a manner similar to Horde races in the past. There will be no Alliance Vulpera.

    For more information, check this

    http://ptr.wowhead.com/vulpera-race-in-voldun


    As such, the question should be which Allied race could the Alliance get based on the Worgen.

    To which the answer is Sethrak or Night Elf Worgen.

    As for Lightforged Undead, that is a single individual created under a very unique set of circumstances. Not to mention that, from the description, a Lightforged Undead would basically be a Human with a holy glow. Such a model CANNOT go Horde, it's too close to the Alliance Human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The premise of this post seems to be that as the Alliance Vulpera will be using the Goblin model base, their Horde counterpart will be using the Worgen model base.

    The problem with this stance however is that literally ever single sign points to Vulpera going Horde, from Vulpera greater interaction with the Horde to their models being flagged in a manner similar to Horde races in the past. There will be no Alliance Vulpera.

    As such, the question should be which Allied race could the Alliance get based on the Worgen.

    To which the answer is Sethrak or Night Elf Worgen.

    As for Lightforged Undead, that is a single individual created under a very unique set of circumstances. Not to mention that, from the description, a Lightforged Undead would basically be a Human with a holy glow. Such a model CANNOT go Horde, it's too close to the Alliance Human.
    Wow, Night Elf Worgen seems like a really solid answer. It makes a lot of sense. Worgen form is banned amongst the druids, so I could see Malfurion calling all of them traitors and exiling them from... wherever they move to...

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    No, Allied Races are simply races that you can unlock, that's it. They can be unique races or reskins of others.

    As for adding new allied races to the game: I think we've got enough for now honestly. We've got 4 of them as a pre-order bonus and for doing legion content and we'll get 4 more in BfA. I hope we're either gonna get a regular race in the future OR honestly it would be just fine if we would not get any new race next xpac.

    I don't think we're ever gonna see Vulpera or Sethrak as allied races.

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