Sylvanas needs to be kicked out and killed but it MUST be a Horde only quest chain/scenario. We cannot have a second Siege of Orgrimmar where horde players are left feeling like losers.
Sylvanas needs to be kicked out and killed but it MUST be a Horde only quest chain/scenario. We cannot have a second Siege of Orgrimmar where horde players are left feeling like losers.
Me not that kind of Orc!
Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)
The Forsaken have no future. They can't reproduce. They are doomed anyway. If she was a good leader, they'd just accept their fate rather than her searching for ways to commit genocide to force people to become Forsaken. That is in itself pure evil. Nobody who's dead wants to be rezzed as a Forsaken.
If she was a benevolent leader, she'd take all the Forsaken and find a party island somewhere far away from everyone where they'd just live (forever?) and not bother anyone.
That and how deeply in love some neck beards are with her lol. Honestly at times I feel both parties can't tell if she is fiction or not, with how much they obsess over her
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Well it's not like she killed his son and wrecked his home.
Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)
and you couldn't post this in any of the hundred other "SYLVUNUS IS SUTUUUUUUUN!" threads because why exactly?
Formerly known as Arafal
Well, I hope Sylvanas is still the warchief at the end of BFA. She is one of the last decent horde characters we have left (imo).
Fuck off with that, The war has gotten stale, absolutely. How can you realistically be okay with factions resolving their issues and immediately opening the wounds back up for no fucking reason. The war should be with whatever evil or anything before us, not with this tired ass tit for tat Alliance vs Horde shit.
I've been playing this game a lot long than most people here. There is nothing fresh about the faction wars, nothing can change that. We have been in a constant faction war for 14 years, this expansion is just gonna slip into normal mobs and shit immediately then culminate in a Siege of Stormwind or some shit, a treaty being signed and then guess what for next expac? THE DRUMS OF WAR SOUND ONCE AGAIN.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
Actually, this book made me like the Forsaken. I always thought they were unnatural monsters that shouldn't even exist, and should just walk themselves into a pool of fire. But it's not that simple. Just like Genn does in the book, I see now that there are Forsaken who still feel and behave like humans. Who still care about others. Sylvanas is nothing like that. Every chance she has had to reunite with her sisters she has fucked up because of her hateful nature. She's incapable of feeling compassion for anyone. Just an empty shell, a monster.
That doesn't make her reasons any less evil. She's a power hungry maniac who will kill off anyone who she sees as a challenge to her seat of power, even if they aren't.
Illidan sacrificed them to stop the enemy. Yeah it's definitely not okay to do so, but that's what Illidan is, an anti hero. He does awful things but he does them for a righteous goal. Sylvanas is nothing like that. She will sacrifice anything and anyone to protect herself and her position of power.
Then kill only the ones running towards the Alliance camp. But no, she also killed the ones who were running back to her. Why? Because these were all members of the Desolate Council, and this was the perfect opportunity for her to annihilate a group of Forsaken she viewed as a threat to her power (which they weren't) without being nailed to the wall for it. She can hide behind that pathetic excuse of "Wuhhh they were defecting" and nobody can do much. But still, the Forsaken and definitely the Horde should see through that weak excuse and put her down. She's poison to both groups.
Do any of you even read the book or do you just get your lines from people just as uninformed on the forums? We are privy to Sylvanas' internal monologue, so we know what she was thinking at the time and that wasn't it. If you read the godawful book, you'd be aware of this. She stages the meeting for it to serve as demotivation for the Desolate Council, then acts impulsively because she assumes Calia is guiding the defecting high officials away. Then she kills twelve people, of which four to eleven of which were in fact traitors.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
Well right now we only know that Sylvanas wanted to capture Teldrassil not destroy it, which leads me to believe that her reaction in darkshore points to her not knowing about the burning because she is surprised by the event. Instead of trying to prove her innocence which she knows would be futile she just accepted the outcome and accepted the trajectory. Very smart of her, once all is said n done she'll have a chance i think later to discuss things when the REAL threat of BFA surfaces. no pun intended lol
Her only retort to "They were running back here" is "How much of that is fear" and "How tempted were they". Slaughtering your own people because of a MAYBE is atrocious. Kill them if they openly betray you, don't automatically assume they were going to. But that's what Sylvanas is.
This horse is not even giblets at this point. Executing high officials for treason is standard in multiple developed countries that aren't autocracies run by an unempathetic zombie. Even more so if, as is the case, she had every reason to believe they were defecting at the time she gave the order to kill, and a third to all but one of them were legitimately traitors. Why you choose this as your hill to die on rather than her much more unambiguously evil acts in Gilneas or Hillsbrad is beyond me.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
And what if they were defecting? Why is this even a bad thing? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sylvanas all about giving the Forsaken "free will"? So what if they went to live with the Alliance. Kill them in battle if they ever take up arms against you.
The whole thing about the Forsaken (which Sylvanas also often used to moan about by the way) was that the living didn't accept them because of what they were. Well, these living DID accept them and welcomed them. But no, Sylvanas can't have that. Can't have innocent civillians going to live with their beloved still living loved ones.
It just shows that even if peace were possible between the humans and the Forsaken, Sylvanas would never allow it. She would never allow the Forsaken to leave her seat of power and live alongside humans. Hell, multiple times throughout the book she tries her damndest to convince the Forsaken that the living hate them. She manipulates them and plays on their fears so they'll stay loyal to her.