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    Azerite traits - post the most interesting one for your spec!

    Title says it all. I would like to see which Azerite traits are the "desired" ones per spec.

    Please write down your class - specialization and the favorite Azerite trait of your respective spec.

    Then I would like you to rate your "favorite" Azerite trait on the following basis: 1 = disappointing - 2 = okay - 3 = nice

    An entire list of traits you can find here: http://de.wowhead.com/heart-of-azero...e-traits-guide

    I'll start:

    Priest - Shadow

    Death Throes: Shadow Word: Pain deals an additional 40 damage. When an enemy dies while afflicted by your Shadow Word: Pain, you gain 5 Insanity.

    Rating: 2

    For Shadow Priest there's not a single 3 = nice trait yet. They're either 1 = disappointing or 2 = (just) okay that's why I picked Death Throes and still gave it a 2 rating.
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    Frost mage has a trait that reduces frozen orb cd when you cast ice lance. Guess i could consider it a 2. Nothing above 1 except that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverie View Post
    i dont play the beta but i hope that warriors have 1 that buffs ignore pain
    Why don't you just check the link for Azerite traits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverie View Post
    i dont wanna be spoiled. i will find it while playing
    Well, you might be pleasantly surprised then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Title says it all. I would like to see which Azerite traits are the "desired" ones per spec.

    Please write down your class - specialization and the favorite Azerite trait of your respective spec.

    Then I would like you to rate your "favorite" Azerite trait on the following basis: 1 = disappointing - 2 = okay - 3 = nice

    An entire list of traits you can find here: http://de.wowhead.com/heart-of-azero...e-traits-guide

    I'll start:

    Priest - Shadow

    Death Throes: Shadow Word: Pain deals an additional 40 damage. When an enemy dies while afflicted by your Shadow Word: Pain, you gain 5 Insanity.

    Rating: 2

    For Shadow Priest there's not a single 3 = nice trait yet. They're either 1 = disappointing or 2 = (just) okay that's why I picked Death Throes and still gave it a 2 rating.
    Shadow
    Chorus= ***** (5) nice boost to crit% and somewhat lowers crit chance soft cap.
    Torment=**** (5) great damage boost! works great with different abilities and talents.

    Disc
    Homily=

    Holy
    Sacred Flame = ***** free mana!
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    Eh, it's hard to pick a good one for shadow priest. I guess Chorus of Insanity sounds nice. Crit after voidform based on the stacks of voidform. At least it's something.

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    You do realise that list is for the basic levelling/dungeon/first tier traits only... right?

    It's like rating the Legion Order Hall set bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    You do realise that list is for the basic levelling/dungeon/first tier traits only... right?

    It's like rating the Legion Order Hall set bonus.
    lmao "its just the first raid tier"

    when is the excuse making going to end

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    lmao "its just the first raid tier"

    when is the excuse making going to end
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that isn't the case.

    All we have seen so far is the entry-level stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that isn't the case.

    All we have seen so far is the entry-level stuff.
    dude wake up. its the first raid tier. a whole tier of this boring crap. that's not "entry level". its like this whether you're on lfr or mythic. players are right to be concerned. this isnt some small unnoticeable amount of content this is the endgame for everyone for the currently forseeable future.

    it needs to be fixed. blizzard needs to be told, repeatedly, how bad they screwed up here or people like you are going to be locked in a miserable azerite hellhole all the while saying "oh its only the third raid tier, you can hardly judge the whole system by this!!" i mean how useless can you possibly be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that isn't the case.

    All we have seen so far is the entry-level stuff.
    By the first raid in legion every single spec had 1 new ability and legendaries that changed the rotations of the spec.

    While some of the azerite traits might be more powerful then a standard set bonus when put together, there aren’t a single One thats genuinely exciting. Not even One....
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    "Feeding Frenzy
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    Barbed Shot deals 72 additional damage over its duration, and Frenzy's duration is increased to 9.0 sec."


    I imagine this will make it a bit less annoying to maintain 3 stacks of Frenzy. Still salty that they made this mechanic baseline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    dude wake up. its the first raid tier. a whole tier of this boring crap. that's not "entry level". its like this whether you're on lfr or mythic. players are right to be concerned. this isnt some small unnoticeable amount of content this is the endgame for everyone for the currently forseeable future.

    it needs to be fixed. blizzard needs to be told, repeatedly, how bad they screwed up here or people like you are going to be locked in a miserable azerite hellhole all the while saying "oh its only the third raid tier, you can hardly judge the whole system by this!!" i mean how useless can you possibly be.
    There hasn't been a single meaningful set bonus in the first raid tier in... like forever. 90% of them are "X core ability does Y% more damage" on either the 2pc or the 4pc or both

    Which, incidently, is the kind of stuff we're seeing with early Azerite

    Meaningful rotation shakeups dont happen until later tiers. It has ALWAYS been thus.
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    Holy Priest - Sacred Flame - Holy Fire restores mana every time it does damage.

    This is probably a 2 on your scale - it encourages me to holy fire off CD which I probably already do half the time anyway, but the mana return means Holy's already high longevity can push itself even further.

    Also lmao @ "It's the first tier". By that point in Legion we had the artifact ability, artifact traits en masse, and most people had at least 1 legendary. Prior to that was WoD where classes were more fleshed out in general, and before that classes hadn't yet been pruned so there was much greater diversity and class depth regardless of tiers.

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    -Rampage deals an additional X per strike and generates 1 Rage per strike

    Combined with Endless Rage talent, currently best for Fury, and that's 10 rage per Rampage (assuming the rage generation doesn't stack) which is pretty strong in and of itself. Not as strong as the current setup with the legendary legs, but expecting first tier stuff to be as strong as late game bonuses is a fool's errand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    There hasn't been a single meaningful set bonus in the first raid tier in... like forever. 90% of them are "X core ability does Y% more damage" on either the 2pc or the 4pc or both

    Which, incidently, is the kind of stuff we're seeing with early Azerite

    Meaningful rotation shakeups dont happen until later tiers. It has ALWAYS been thus.
    Man, they're on a non-stop hate boner for this system and reasoning doesn't work. Blame it on the few parrots who constantly talk shit about it in every thread.

    This system is far more interesting than the old set bonuses IMO, and the kind of shit I was expecting with the old scrapped Path of the Titans system.

    Some of the survival hunter, ret pally, and WW monk ones are cool and I prefer passive effects over activated ones as is. But it would be cool if they introduced some activated OP effects later on.

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    Outlaw: Take control of the dice of fate, granting yourself 31 Agility if Roll the Bones only provides you with one combat enhancement.

    It's ok, reduces a bit the rng. Or rather, gives you a buff if you're unlucky on roll the bones. It's a useful trait, but nothing that will change my rotation or anything.

    Adrenaline Rush increases your Haste by 23 every sec, stacking up to 10 times. Lasts 20 seconds.

    This is also pretty good, making offensive cd even stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    There hasn't been a single meaningful set bonus in the first raid tier in... like forever. 90% of them are "X core ability does Y% more damage" on either the 2pc or the 4pc or both

    Which, incidently, is the kind of stuff we're seeing with early Azerite

    Meaningful rotation shakeups dont happen until later tiers. It has ALWAYS been thus.
    That’s simply not true. Legions first tier set had plenty of things in it that could change up the rotation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nupomaniac View Post
    That’s simply not true. Legions first tier set had plenty of things in it that could change up the rotation
    The first tier sets for Legion came out well after release - during Nighthold.

    Essentially what we are looking at right now are the Order Hall, dungeon set and EN stuff, for BFA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Which, incidently, is the kind of stuff we're seeing with early Azerite
    Not really. You're right that entrance tier boni don't change gameplay but they're still a lot more impactful than all the Azerite stuff we've seen yet.

    Just compare them: http://de.wowhead.com/tier-19-armor-sets

    Even with 3 Azerite traits they're not on par with the T19 boni.

    Does that mean later Azerite traits can't get better? No. That still doesn't make the 99% awful Azerite traits we have now better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbotef View Post
    Man, they're on a non-stop hate boner for this system and reasoning doesn't work.
    Yeah because it's a bad system and it has been since introduction. It's just that bad, has nothing to do with "hate". This system could have been great if Blizzard would've putten enough time into it. But it not only lacks inspiration and a clear game design, it lacks the most important thing: fun.
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    Still I don't want this thread to be derailed by this discussion. I was genuinely curious which are the favorite traits for each spec (even when they're bad).
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