Parents set to lose right to veto sex education at age 15

[Endus]

Lot's of usually pro Muslim folks are for this.

It's going to affect Muslims almost exclusively.

Violating religious freedom isn't a good thing and it's bad for multiculturalism.

Supporting people's religious freedoms does not extend to allowing them to neglect or abuse their children.

I don't need to know what someone's faith is to state that they shouldn't be allowed to deny their children basic education.

[Deleted]

It nice to see when america move towards the norms of the Civilised world

[Endus]

It nice to see when america move towards the norms of the Civilised world

The story's about the UK. Maybe try reading the article before knee-jerking into the thread?

[Dug]

Not necessarily. My dad ( a US Marine) threatened me with broken bones if I had sex while i was still under his roof. I didn't until I was out.

No woman is worth taking a beating from a jarhead.

So then they'll fuck outside of the home. This ain't rocket science.

[Martymark]

This is a great way to get more parents to pull their kids out of public schools, hastening their collapse due to lack of enrollment. Did Trump plan this?

[Elegiac]

This is a great way to get more parents to pull their kids out of public schools, hastening their collapse due to lack of enrollment. Did Trump plan this?

*clears sinuses loudly*

The story's about the UK. Maybe try reading the article before knee-jerking into the thread?

On that note, homeschooling needs to be illegalised.

[Zantos]

On that note, homeschooling needs to be illegalised.

I wouldn't go that far. It should be monitored though. My brother had a girlfriend who doesn't have her diploma since her parents didn't follow the program properly for homeschooling. So her, nor her siblings, have anything.

[Elegiac]

I wouldn't go that far. It should be monitored though. My brother had a girlfriend who doesn't have her diploma since her parents didn't follow the program properly for homeschooling. So her, nor her siblings, have anything.

Nah, it's too easy to abuse. Plus most homeschooling is just code for "religious indoctrination", which is about as good as abusive.

[Musik-Diversity86]

In before zealots who have no concerns over teenagers' health show up ripping their hair out in the name of religious freedom.

You lost a bit of control there... went off topic a bit but to be honest the parents should be the ones teaching their kids Sex Ed. Not doing so is already the start of being irresponsible.

[Elegiac]

You lost a bit of control there... went off topic a bit but to be honest the parents should be the ones teaching their kids Sex Ed. Not doing so is already the start of being irresponsible.

How about we let the qualified people do the teaching? Kthx.

[Martymark]

On that note, homeschooling needs to be illegalised.

And if parents try to homeshool, their kids should be taken away from them, and forcibly be taught the dominant culture's values! We did it to the Indians, and every agrees that was a good thing right?

[Endus]

On that note, homeschooling needs to be illegalised.

Nah, just strongly restricted.

For instance, if I married a gal with a high-power job, like a corporate lawyer making high six figures, she should probably be the one to keep working. I can stay home with the kids (most of the work I've been doing for the last while is self-employed from my home office, anyway).

Given that, based on the quality of local schools and whether I like any of the private schools around us, I'd consider home-schooling our kids. But A> I'm a certified teacher (not working in the field, but maintaining my cert), and B> I'm strongly supportive of the Ontario curriculum, and wouldn't have any problem using that as my baseline.

The problem is when parents have an issue with the curriculum, and want to home-school to get around it. That should flat-out not be allowed.

[Independent voter]

Low energy, sad.

Who is "pro-muslim", exactly?

"If only they weren't so darn Muslim" am I right?

[Unholyground]

Seriously people, it really isn't that hard to find the clit.

It is not just about that, it is about safe sex practices.

[Granyala]

Could always just make it obligatory as a part of biology, but this is certainly better than nothing.

Pretty much how it worked for us. Sexuality was part of the biology classes.
5th grade got some basics, 10th or 11th grade got more advanced stuff incl. hormonal reactions etc.

No way to opt out of it here.

We did not learn anything about the LGBT stuff though, not that it would be really needed.

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I wouldn't go that far. It should be monitored though. My brother had a girlfriend who doesn't have her diploma since her parents didn't follow the program properly for homeschooling. So her, nor her siblings, have anything.

And that's why it should be illegal.
Incompetent parents can ruin a kids future. Leave the teaching to the pros.

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I don't need to know what someone's faith is to state that they shouldn't be allowed to deny their children basic education.

Agreed.
Law > personal freedoms / religion.
parents get no say in the curriculum of our schools (and rightly so).

[Direpenguin]

Good, I really don't see why this couldn't be universal in the Western World. Sex is arguably one of the most important areas to be educated in.

Especially if you don't want your partner to cheat on you!

[Musik-Diversity86]

How about we let the qualified people do the teaching? Kthx.

Which could also be the parents. Kthx

[Deleted]

Nothing better than parents who don't want their children to be educated.

[Elegiac]

Which could also be the parents. Kthx

Most parents are not qualified to teach their children much of anything, quite frankly.

[therealstegblob]

homeschooling needs to be illegalised.

No it doesn't. It needs better oversight to make sure children are being taught relevant information, but it's ridiculous to propose we have to illegalize homeschooling.

Martymark also had a good point in that religious people will simply elect to pull their kids from school wholesale, or send them to weird religious schools, to avoid sex education. It's not an irrelevant point, something does need to be done about that, but making homeschooling illegal is not the answer.