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    Sweden: activist prevents deportation of a man to Afghanistan

    https://freedomnews.org.uk/sweden-ac...o-afghanistan/
    German article with more information https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...ghanistan.html
    /update: English article with more information https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-afghanistan



    A young Swedish woman has managed to prevent a forced deportation by the Swedish immigration forces of a 52-year-old man to Afghanistan.

    Elin Ersson was on board a passenger plane ready to depart from Gothenburg to Istanbul when she noticed the man, a refugee from Afghanistan, sitting at the back of the plane and she decided to take a simple but effective direct action. She stood up in the plane’s aisle, started a live broadcast on her phone, and refused to sit until the pilot orders the man off the plane. According to the transport rules, a plane can’t take off until everyone is seated.

    “Right now I’m at the airport in the airplane and there is a person getting deported to Afghanistan and the people working here are trying to take my phone away from me and try to forcibly move me,” Erin says in the video, “In Afghanistan there is war and this man faces death” , she continues, “I’m just trying to save his life. (…) All I want to do is to stop his deportation. As long as I stand and if hopefully more people get up, the pilot can not take off.” Later she adds that she is not doing anything illegal and that she will stay in the aisle until the man is taken off board.

    During the stand-off, Ersson is confronted by several passengers and a cabin crew member, all apparently more annoyed with delayed flight than the deportation taking place in front of their eyes. Among them, a man with British accent tells her that she upsets people before briefly taking her phone off her. Another man yells “shut up” at her. Another person tells her that “These are the rules of your country,” to which Erin firmly responds: “Yes, and I try to change those rules. It’s not okay to send people to hell.”

    For the duration of the video, Erin keeps repeating that all she is trying to do is to save the man’s life, and encourage other passengers to join her. At some point, a Turkish man joins her in the aisle, followed by a football team sitting at the back of the plane and other passengers.

    Eventually, the deportation victim was taken off the plane and Erin was escorted to one of the exits where she was met by the airport security. Later Ersson reported that the man’s deportation was canceled. She does not know however what will happen to him next.
    Story got viral around here and is very controversial. What do you think? Is she a hero or do you criticize her?
    Last edited by mmocd82a39b843; 2018-07-25 at 04:26 PM.

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    Wtf. xD She sounds like she need to be dealt with by law enforcement so she won't interfere with authorities doing their jobs.

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    Shes lucky she wasn't flying United. They woulda beat her @$$.

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    Is she going to personally house the dude?

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    The usual feels over facts approach so common in political activist. If a Swedish judge/court decided this individual should be deported, you can be damn sure they deserve it considering how difficult it is to deport someone from Sweden.

    She also hurts the other passengers and airline by delaying the plane and causing a commotion, but she get to feel self-righteous.
    Last edited by Khelek; 2018-07-24 at 10:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Is she going to personally house the dude?
    A fair point.

    I imagine Sweden is fairly difficult to get deported from. I would like to know why he's being deported and why she's defending it.

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    I am flying a lot but when "I notice a man, a refugee from Afghanistan, sitting at the back of the plane", I will start questioning myself how I know it's a refugee from Afghanistan...

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    I would have thrown her off the flight myself for making the flight delayed. Have your Liberal meltdown on your own time and dollar. Not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    The usual feels over facts approach so common in political activist. If a Swedish judge/court decided this individual should be deported, you can be damn sure they deserve it considering how difficult it is to deport someone from Sweden.

    She also hurts the other passengers and airline by delaying the plain and causing a commotion, but she get to feel self-righteous.
    You can be deported through no fault of your own because your employer paid too low wage, because the employer had the wrong insurance even if corrected the mistake, for you not vacationing and various other ridiculous reasons. Do you think the people who have been deported for these reasons deserved it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwank05 View Post
    I would have thrown her off the flight myself for making the flight delayed. Have your Liberal meltdown on your own time and dollar. Not mine.
    The people who protest like this are often sympathizing with the green party, feminist initiative or left party, none which are liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheese and onion View Post
    You can be deported through no fault of your own because your employer paid too low wage, because the employer had the wrong insurance even if corrected the mistake, for you not vacationing and various other ridiculous reasons. Do you think the people who have been deported for these reasons deserved it?
    If that is the law, then yes, the deportations are deserved. I would, however, doubt that there large numbers being deported for these reasons as the employment prospects of migrants are basically zero in a modern western economy. People coming from Afghanistan, a country with a 38.2% literacy rate (in their own language and not Swedish)are not being employed anywhere in large numbers.

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    Of course she doesn't wonder why he's being deported. For all we know he could be a rapist or murderer; Sweden sets a pretty high bar for deportations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    If that is the law, then yes, the deportations are deserved.
    No, someone being paid too low wage shouldn't mean you should be deported because your employer decides to fuck you over. Someone not taking vacation because they can't afford it shouldn't be deported for actually trying to provide for themselves. Someone that has an employer that didn't know which insurance to get shouldn't be fucked over because the employer lacked knowledge. That's not deserved deportations. Deserved is if you try to stay in the country after having had permit to live here rejected or if you've committed a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgee View Post
    Of course she doesn't wonder why he's being deported. For all we know he could be a rapist or murderer; Sweden sets a pretty high bar for deportations.
    No, we don't.

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    Sweden
    What happened to this nation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Wtf. xD She sounds like she need to be dealt with by law enforcement so she won't interfere with authorities doing their jobs.
    If you are going to make posts in support of racial segregation, could I politely respect in turn that you stay on Vietnamese forums and stop using google translate to make shallow and superficial one-sentence posts.

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    Would need to know a lot more information regarding the person being deported before having an opinion on the woman, really. I'll commend her for standing up for what she believes I guess, but that doesn't mean she did a good thing. That man was being deported for a reason, what that reason was is important.

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    How long before we find out the guy is some terrorist or rapist or murderer etc? Not saying he is but it would be funny as hell if she made a SJW stand and an ass of herself to keep some scumbag in the country.

    It does seem rather fake/staged. Most people are apathetic to others , especially strangers. Here in the US at least. People simply wouldn’t care about someone sitting in the back of the plane. We got our own lives to care about.
    People working 2 jobs in the US (at least one part-time) - 7.8 Million (Roughly 4.9% of the workforce)

    People working 2 full-time jobs in the US - 360,000 (0.2% of the workforce)

    Average time worked weekly by the US Workforce - 34.5 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    How long before we find out the guy is some terrorist or rapist or murderer etc? Not saying he is but it would be funny as hell if she made a SJW stand and an ass of herself to keep some scumbag in the country.

    It does seem rather fake/staged. Most people are apathetic to others , especially strangers. Here in the US at least. People simply wouldn’t care about someone sitting in the back of the plane. We got our own lives to care about.
    Like I said: how did she even know if was a refugee from Afghanistan?

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    It's pretty troubling that some people believe that the law doesn't apply or should be changed just because they have irrational emotional reactions to things they don't understand. How did she know the guy was being deported? Does she even know why he's being deported...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Kobayashi View Post
    Like I said: how did she even know if was a refugee from Afghanistan?
    From what I'm reading on a Swedish forum she knew the family of the man who was going to be deported. Whether there's any truth to that I don't know.

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    This woman is a moron and should be treated as such. Hope they fine her big time for wasting time.

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