Demonic Archer Concept, 3rd spec for Demon Hunter

[Rhaxus]

Can we just stick to the two specs we already have? Please, stop beating the 3rd spec horse... It is already buried.

and why should it stay that way? do you enjoy having an inferior class with less specs?

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OP players like you should lose their license to play DH for the LIFE of the game. Just remove any Dh in your character inventory and remove the button to create one. That should be sufficient.

Should also be a illidari symbol over your head in open world that only DH players can see so we know we should be killing you first.

very mature

could any of you actually provide some reasoning behind these outbursts or do you just like to make useless blanket-statements?

[Uglytoes]

and why should it stay that way? do you enjoy having an inferior class with less specs?

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very mature

Yes, I do, because I'd rather not complicate it with some hair-brained spec just for the sake of a hair-brained spec when half the time Blizzard can't balance the specs that already exist...

[Not Againnn]

https://us.diablo3.com/en/class/demon-hunter/

that is diablo, not warcraft universe.

[notawizard]

This might be a little off-topic, but the Warcraft III Demon Hunter's Metamorphosis ability turned his melee attack into a ranged attack (with a bit of splash damage). I wish we could have this in WoW too

[Rhaxus]

Yes, I do, because I'd rather not complicate it with some hair-brained spec just for the sake of a hair-brained spec when half the time Blizzard can't balance the specs that already exist...

which is such a non-argument, because it will not stop them from implementing new classes in the next addon and if the class is well designed there doesn't need to be much balancing work anyway. not to mentiont hat they could simply invest more time and money into balancing if they wanted to

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This might be a little off-topic, but the Warcraft III Demon Hunter's Metamorphosis ability turned his melee attack into a ranged attack (with a bit of splash damage). I wish we could have this in WoW too

this would be awesome as a new spec concept, melee attack animations and chaos or shadow energy waves as seen by fel lords etc to attack from range

[Krobane]

dislike. demon hunters arent a ranged archetype. where have you seen a DH in game using a bow?

a fel/shadow themed ranged class already exists in the form of a warlock.

Demon Hunter in Diablo are ranged......but I agree, this is a dumb idea for WoW.

[Rhaxus]

I mean, Illidan gathered night and blood elves and trained them as demon hunters. The main training is not melee training though; the focus is on containing and controlling a demon and then learning how to manipulate the Fel. The combat options for demon hunters starts at their previous skills before they picked up this path.

my thoughts as well, i always wondered how the elven race, usually exceptionally adept at archery, would only produce melee combatants ( aside from the obvious " durr we want to be illidan")

[Uglytoes]

which is such a non-argument, because it will not stop them from implementing new classes in the next addon and if the class is well designed there doesn't need to be much balancing work anyway. not to mentiont hat they could simply invest more time and money into balancing if they wanted to

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this would be awesome as a new spec concept, melee attack animations and chaos or shadow energy waves as seen by fel lords etc to attack from range

Oh you mean it is a non-argument because it goes against your proposal? Oh, okay, got it.

[Rhaxus]

Oh you mean it is a non-argument because it goes against your proposal? Oh, okay, got it.

no, actually i don't expect them to use any of this, but if balancing were an actual reason for them not to bother with more specs/ classes they wouldn't even have bothered to implement monk and Dh at all

there were balancing issues before and there will be issues after the implementation of new classes and the amount of classes has hardly any impact on that.

[Unholyground]

Dark Ranger is coming in the next expansion so just chill lol.

[The Stormbringer]

https://us.diablo3.com/en/class/demon-hunter/

[Spl4sh3r]

As I've said many times before, they need to make the Pure DPS classes into hybrids before thinking of adding any new classes or even adding more specs to other existing classes. This is because at the moment the Pure DPS are at a disadvantage.

[pay928]

As I've said many times before, they need to make the Pure DPS classes into hybrids before thinking of adding any new classes or even adding more specs to other existing classes. This is because at the moment the Pure DPS are at a disadvantage.

The reason I don't insta-main rogue is they don't have a tank spec and I like fast queues and tanking. Missed opportunity to not rework Combat-> Outlaw into a tank spec, instead of a flavor casino spec.

[Not Againnn]

its probably way harder to infuse archery skills with fel magic, as archery requires patience, concentration and distance. hordes of demons wont give you that opportunity, so it boils down to melee prowess? maybe thats why there are no demon hunters who use archery or whatever.

or there ARE demon hunters who use bows, but they all soon realize that the traditional warglaive or scythe is the way to go

[GamerDH]

and why should it stay that way? do you enjoy having an inferior class with less specs?

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very mature

could any of you actually provide some reasoning behind these outbursts or do you just like to make useless blanket-statements?

There's no need. You are not a DH player. You don't appreciate the DH class and make suggestions akin to "lets make a priest a melee rogue!' "or lets make a rogue a hunter" or "lets make a mage a healer" or lets have a warlock with arrows and backstabbing people. NO NO and NO.

All blasphemous stuff. Stop posting this shit in these forums and go play those other classes. Leave DH alone.
So many terrible casual players like you trying to ruin wow and this class every single day.

GO PLAY A HUNTER AND BE DONE.

[Orloth]

If you disagree with something you are free to say so. Trying to silence people who you disagree with is not ok. This is the polite warning.

[GamerDH]

Asking why a DH shouldn't be a ranged spec is just like asking why little kids shouldn't go to prison. Same exact thing.
Would love to know what your other favorite classes are so I can suggest some outrageous specs for them.

[Infraction: Trolling]

[Black Sand]

There is no reason a Demon Hunter cannot pick up bow and arrow and use their powers with this weapon. Demon Hunters come from various backgrounds, plenty of which will have experience with archery. Adding this skill to their inventory increases adaptability in combat. It allows the Demon Hunter to have more options to... hunt. Fixating purely on melee will put the Demon Hunter at a great disadvantage when faced with unforgiving terrain and/or opponents. As mentioned by the OP, archery has tactical advantages over melee. The sort of advantages that don't seem out of character for a "fight-fire-with-fire"-type of martial artist. A good martial artist does not limit their arsenal, and neither does a good hunter. I see Demon Hunters as the sort that seeks out every bit of tactical advantage they can manage over their enemy. Adopting ranged weaponry is one of the least strange ones. If anything, it would be a rather obvious choice that, IMO, adds depth and variation to the class archetype.

As such, I am supportive of the idea. Fel-infused archery, perhaps focusing on strong DOT management and FEL FIRE DUH to make it stand out from the Hunter class. A blindfolded demonic archer? Sounds pretty badass! 10/10 would play.



Also, the 'purists' in this thread are hilarious.

[Yorgl]

The reason I don't insta-main rogue is they don't have a tank spec and I like fast queues and tanking. Missed opportunity to not rework Combat-> Outlaw into a tank spec, instead of a flavor casino spec.

While, as said before, I'd love a DH healing spec I have to agree with this and Spl4sh3r's comment : if they had to do something about specs, this should be a priority.
I understand Blizzard's stance on the matter, but I much prefer the choice that other MMOs do on the matter. Rift being the absolute best with each class having the possibility to either tank, dps, heal or assist ; WildStar isn't too bad either by having each class being able to Assault (DPS) and Support (tank or heal, never both).

I assume one reason for not having that is that WoW's endgame is (one of?) the most followed and analyzed, therefore class balance is as we all know, kind of a big deal. Having to balance say 8 tanks and 10 healers would probably be too much work for them (not to mention, finding interesting and unique playstyles for so many specs).
Still, it would be cool. ^_^

[Deleted]

There is no reason a Demon Hunter cannot pick up bow and arrow and use their powers with this weapon. Demon Hunters come from various backgrounds, plenty of which will have experience with archery. Adding this skill to their inventory increases adaptability in combat. It allows the Demon Hunter to have more options to... hunt. Fixating purely on melee will put the Demon Hunter at a great disadvantage when faced with unforgiving terrain and/or opponents. As mentioned by the OP, archery has tactical advantages over melee. The sort of advantages that don't seem out of character for a "fight-fire-with-fire"-type of martial artist. A good martial artist does not limit their arsenal, and neither does a good hunter. I see Demon Hunters as the sort that seeks out every bit of tactical advantage they can manage over their enemy. Adopting ranged weaponry is one of the least strange ones. If anything, it would be a rather obvious choice that, IMO, adds depth and variation to the class archetype.

As such, I am supportive of the idea. Fel-infused archery, perhaps focusing on strong DOT management and FEL FIRE DUH to make it stand out from the Hunter class. A blindfolded demonic archer? Sounds pretty badass! 10/10 would play.



Also, the 'purists' in this thread are hilarious.

This. All of it!

I am really baffled by the "purists" in the thread. For people who forgot, I will write you a quote from Illidan-senpai himself - "There is no sacrifice great enough to defeat the Legion". I recommend to those people to watch Illidan's short from Harbringers as it is the one thing that is the literal proof the demon hunter class can be very versatile about their combat skills.
In it one army of demon hunters manage to assault successfully a Legion citadel! Do you really think they did that with just waving their glaives around? Those cannons, archers, flying demon casters and fel bats (and god know what more was defending that citadel) had to be dealt with somehow right? What about the wounded?... I dont think calling them "purists" is remotely right...
If ranged attacks can give a DH better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.
If casting magics can give a DH better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.
If healing allies(and themselfs) can give them better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.

The only reason we do not have 3rd spec is because there is too much choice and Blizzard themself said that they can't(yet) flesh out the 3rd spec. And no one said that DHs will have only 2 specs...

On topic - I would really love to get ranged dps spec. I have always had that idea of melle/ranged hybrid that build resource in melle, dash out in range and release devastating blows and rush back into the fray.