Demonic Archer Concept, 3rd spec for Demon Hunter

[vandplan]

Sounds cool. Hopefully they will add a third 3 spec within a few years

[Spl4sh3r]

The reason I don't insta-main rogue is they don't have a tank spec and I like fast queues and tanking. Missed opportunity to not rework Combat-> Outlaw into a tank spec, instead of a flavor casino spec.

They don't even need to rework the current specs, but at least add new ones to go for those roles. Such as Obviously a beast tank spec for Hunters or just make the Hunter themselves the tank. Rogues would be dodge/parry tanks in some sort of dueling spec. Mages would be Chronomancers probably learned by the Bronze Dragonflight. Then we have Warlocks that either tank through pets or actually become a demon (not like the Demon Hunter one they had before, more like Magtheridon and those types).

[Yorgl]

If casting magics can give a DH better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.

I'll also add that DH actually have magic in their toolkit, it's not developped to the point of being able to cast from afar mainly for gameplay reasons. Illidan is actually a very skilled mage, before his change and even as a DH ; and, iirc, in the book Vandel uses ranged magic on a few occasions.

(Still I hope for a healer spec, one day, for variety and convenience )

[Exerionx]

I'd like to see a DH healer spec rather than a ranged one I think. It could be pretty awesome thematically.

[Chaelexi]

If they were going to do a third spec I would want it to be a momentum spec, instead of fury as the resource you have momentum as your resource you fill the ball based on your movement abilities, Fel Rush, Fel Blades and VR. From this resource you can use your a damage abilities. Then it would split Momo off from Havoc where it fits poorly anyways and allow them to put a different final tier talent in.

[Rhaxus]

There's no need. You are not a DH player. You don't appreciate the DH class and make suggestions akin to "lets make a priest a melee rogue!' "or lets make a rogue a hunter" or "lets make a mage a healer" or lets have a warlock with arrows and backstabbing people. NO NO and NO.

All blasphemous stuff. Stop posting this shit in these forums and go play those other classes. Leave DH alone.
So many terrible casual players like you trying to ruin wow and this class every single day.

GO PLAY A HUNTER AND BE DONE.

you have serious problems if you experience concepts beyond your little scope of class phantasy as blasphemous. maybe you should stop playing the game, your emotional investment into a little aspect of the game is way too intense. get help

[Edgekidxxx]

Damn, what a revolutionary concept putting a.. *adjusts glasses and squints* ...hunter? into the game? That's groundbreaking.

[Rhaxus]

This. All of it!

I am really baffled by the "purists" in the thread. For people who forgot, I will write you a quote from Illidan-senpai himself - "There is no sacrifice great enough to defeat the Legion". I recommend to those people to watch Illidan's short from Harbringers as it is the one thing that is the literal proof the demon hunter class can be very versatile about their combat skills.
In it one army of demon hunters manage to assault successfully a Legion citadel! Do you really think they did that with just waving their glaives around? Those cannons, archers, flying demon casters and fel bats (and god know what more was defending that citadel) had to be dealt with somehow right? What about the wounded?... I dont think calling them "purists" is remotely right...
If ranged attacks can give a DH better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.
If casting magics can give a DH better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.
If healing allies(and themselfs) can give them better chance to kill a demon there is no real reason why he won't learn them.

The only reason we do not have 3rd spec is because there is too much choice and Blizzard themself said that they can't(yet) flesh out the 3rd spec. And no one said that DHs will have only 2 specs...

On topic - I would really love to get ranged dps spec. I have always had that idea of melle/ranged hybrid that build resource in melle, dash out in range and release devastating blows and rush back into the fray.

thank you, those are exactly my thoughts, anything that gives them an edge over their enemy is to be used. i'd like a healing spec too, but i think fel and healing are too much the antithesis of each other with fel being the magical aspect of chaos and destruction, but if they have a cool concept for it i am all for it.

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Damn, what a revolutionary concept putting a.. *adjusts glasses and squints* ...hunter? into the game? That's groundbreaking.

give hunter a tank spec and i'd be happy, but then Dh is still only 2/3rds of a class.
ranged fel magic as a lot of animations and cool spell types, it would make sense to put those into a class and they clearly have different ideas for warlocks

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its probably way harder to infuse archery skills with fel magic, as archery requires patience, concentration and distance. hordes of demons wont give you that opportunity, so it boils down to melee prowess? maybe thats why there are no demon hunters who use archery or whatever.

or there ARE demon hunters who use bows, but they all soon realize that the traditional warglaive or scythe is the way to go

this i find way more likely as an explanation or argument against ranged DH specs than the others brought up before, thank you

[Not Againnn]

thank you, those are exactly my thoughts, anything that gives them an edge over their enemy is to be used. i'd like a healing spec too, but i think fel and healing are too much the antithesis of each other with fel being the magical aspect of chaos and destruction, but if they have a cool concept for it i am all for it.

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give hunter a tank spec and i'd be happy, but then Dh is still only 2/3rds of a class.
ranged fel magic as a lot of animations and cool spell types, it would make sense to put those into a class and they clearly have different ideas for warlocks

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this i find way more likely as an explanation or argument against ranged DH specs than the others brought up before, thank you

the illidan books! very good read!

but to follow up: illidan is the first of his kind. he is THE FIRST DH. he defaults to melee combat because its the best way to harness the demon within. it explains this in the books!

and yea. before illidan... changed... and consumed the skull of guldan, he was a mage of ravencrest; very powerful. before asha ravensong was a DH, she was an archer...

[Rhaxus]

the illidan books! very good read!

but to follow up: illidan is the first of his kind. he is THE FIRST DH. he defaults to melee combat because its the best way to harness the demon within. it explains this in the books!

and yea. before illidan... changed... and consumed the skull of guldan, he was a mage of ravencrest; very powerful. before asha ravensong was a DH, she was an archer...

very interesting, i will take a look at it, thanks for the suggestion

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Asking why a DH shouldn't be a ranged spec is just like asking why little kids shouldn't go to prison. Same exact thing.
Would love to know what your other favorite classes are so I can suggest some outrageous specs for them.

[Infraction: Trolling]

i play pretty much anything besides rogue and shaman, feel free to change them all, i much prefer changes to playstyles and archetypes than keeping the status quo for them. worst offender so far were feral and shadow, with their "strenghts" usually not being strong enough to warrant their downsides and in the example of feral, now they had solid gameplay changes for 7.3.5 which were reverted in 8.0, making the class again as stale as it was the last 8 years or so

[Eazy]

Dislike the poison/spider theme.

I'd rather see a demon hunter ranged spec that throw fel-balls with his hands. Something like warlock/mage hybrid, but now with fel energies without weapons.

[Rhaxus]

Dislike the poison/spider theme.

I'd rather see a demon hunter ranged spec that throw fel-balls with his hands. Something like warlock/mage hybrid, but now with fel energies without weapons.

i still feel this would be too close to warlocks theme and therefore be even less likely to get anywhere, but i like this also, ranged weaponry was simply part of the concept because there is still only one class using them

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Ideas like this are why DH only has two specs. Giving them a 3rd is contrived nonsense based on no established lore, and adding nothing significant gameplay or lore-wise.

[Rhaxus]

Ideas like this are why DH only has two specs. Giving them a 3rd is contrived nonsense based on no established lore, and adding nothing significant gameplay or lore-wise.

by that logic vengeance wouldn't have been a thing either

[JaoStar]

If DH got another spec the only logical choice would be some sort of melee drain spec. Feral currently holds that role so I’m not seeing anything unique. What you are describing sounds more liked a dark ranger.

[Deleted]

I'd like to see a DH healer spec rather than a ranged one I think. It could be pretty awesome thematically.

Yes the Naaru show that you can transfrom a DH to a "holy hunter" (Holy as in healing stuff)

[Novotni]

I couldn’t agree more with you. And after reading the book it’s more than clear. I don’t see the hunting aspect on a heal spec.

[Rhaxus]

Also, when it comes to specs per raid slots, tanks are in the worst position. We don't need more tanks. What I'd like is broader talent design that allows each spec to have multiple playstyles that are quite more varied from each other than they are now.

that would be the holy grail of class design, sadly every time they try they fail; just look at gladiator stance or havoc over the course of legion

[Fetus Rex]

I would prefer 2h melee void scythe spec with void symbiont for metamorphosis.

[ttylol]

i was rolling my eyes for most of this thread but omg a venom-like symbiote spec would be so rad, big voidy claws and stuff

but would prob need some sort of insanity-like mechanic and then get deemed too similar :'(