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    the intellectual dark web has become an anti intellectual movement

    Jordan peterson post to his his 800k followers a pragerU video which essential claims climate change is a hoax echoing our president


    and another thing that intrigues me is how the intellectual dark web originally sold its self as a left wing movement with economic socialist views but wanted to sort of battle "politiical corectness" and support freedom of speech, which of course since there unrelented support of vladmir putin seems like theyve official gone away from that goal, and now are full blown pro eugenics movement, once claiming they were on the side of science and freedoms to now promoting a president who has dismantled almost all government activities involving science, and vladimir putin who created the 21st century handbook on how to turn former democracies into de facto dictatorships.

    And i find it very disheartening that the science of eugenics unanimously disproven by scientist and experts is making a comeback, you have videos like this be the norm among the intellectual dark web

    And of course another selling point was was of course, how they deeply cared about liberal values and how middle eastern cultures didnt embrace them, they constantly criticized hillary for accepting donations to her foundation from saudi arabia and qatar, but ironically when trump was in office and had his grand tour in saudi arabia which included a 100 billion dollar arms package, they were seemingly silent,

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    PragerU is a joke, as is Peterson at this point. The real problem is the hero worship that so many people have for both.

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    Who started calling them the dark web? Because they have fuck-all to do with the dark web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Who started calling them the dark web? Because they have fuck-all to do with the dark web.
    they call themselves that because they think mainstream websites are de platforming them, even though i see all of their videos still on youtube just demonetized..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    PragerU is a joke, as is Peterson at this point. The real problem is the hero worship that so many people have for both.
    It's the Trump effect. They jump on Peterson's dick because he "tells it like it is" despite the dubious nature of his findings and assertions.

    "Oh, Peterson is telling those uppity women folk what-for? My oh my, he must be right about EVERYTHING!"
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    I haven't see anyone engage Peterson or Harris and provide any arguments that showed any significant flaws, but I'm open to any evidence of such if someone has a link.

    They seem like they are their own best adversaries.

    I don't consider Stephan Molyneaux part of this "Dark Web" thing. He just seems like a troll.
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    If a person makes valid points that make sense to you, you can agree. Making threads to insult someone just because you don't agree with them is a deplorable act. All this time I've only ever observed lefties being openly hostile. It's a trait of the side that's thrown common sense out of the window.

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    So Jordan Peterson is anti-intellectual for posting a PragerU video but somehow you aren't OP for criticizing him for posting it without even watching that video (which is by an MIT professor)? It is shocking how little some people know about global warming while talking about it so much. Their knowledge extends to mentioning Cook et al. and that's it (even though that study has major problems).

    OP, your ignorance also extends to what the IDW is. I think the term is pointless but no one ever said it had left-wing economic views, just that some people who are part of it might hold those views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    they call themselves that because they think mainstream websites are de platforming them, even though i see all of their videos still on youtube just demonetized..
    Actually the term was coined from a NY Times article:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/o...-dark-web.html

    Stefan Molyneux and PragerU are not part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    It's the Trump effect. They jump on Peterson's dick because he "tells it like it is" despite the dubious nature of his findings and assertions.

    "Oh, Peterson is telling those uppity women folk what-for? My oh my, he must be right about EVERYTHING!"
    You must've infiltrated the evil organization to know all this inside information lol. Hey if you don't like the guy, just ignore him. It's that simple. But the fact that this guy is brought up so much by the left means that what he's talking about might just have a grain of truth in it which stings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renedric View Post
    If a person makes valid points that make sense to you, you can agree. Making threads to insult someone just because you don't agree with them is a deplorable act. All this time I've only ever observed lefties being openly hostile. It's a trait of the side that's thrown common sense out of the window.
    That's because you are a blind partisan.

    Shall I show you the videos of protesters being assaulted at Trump rallies?

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    The movement was always anti-intellectual, let's not mince words here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    which is by an MIT professor
    It's also very much worth noting that he is one of very, very few climate scientists that take that stance. And received funds from the fossil fuel industry at it.
    Immediately after his plea to Trump, the other climate scientists at MIT send a letter in which they expressed their disagreement with Lindzen. Like pretty much all other climate scientists.
    But now the biggest part,
    is all about the image
    and not the art

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's because you are a blind partisan.

    Shall I show you the videos of protesters being assaulted at Trump rallies?
    I guess that makes two of us.

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    It's good they isolate themselves, will be scorned like conspiracy theory people. Won't be relevant as soon as they make their own group and leave open discourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I haven't see anyone engage Peterson or Harris and provide any arguments that showed any significant flaws, but I'm open to any evidence of such if someone has a link.
    For Peterson specifically, ContraPoints on YouTube has a good video on him, and the Majority Report has a few segments where they deconstruct his argument and/or schtick. I may be conflating the two of them, so I can't be more specific. I'll try to post links when I'm not on my phone.
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    If people will believe in Scientology then they will fall for anything. As long as the promise is big enough and it aligns with your ideas. Doesn't suddenly make dumb smart. It just makes some rich off the dumb. Threads like this are what make it all possible too.

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    I wouldn't consider Jordan Peterson to be part of the dark web. He's ideas are generally pretty well rounded. I mostly strongly disagree with his definition of religiosity i will admit it makes zero sense. But he is absolutely right about the threat from SJWs, cultural marxists and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    For Peterson specifically, ContraPoints on YouTube has a good video on him, and the Majority Report has a few segments where they deconstruct his argument and/or schtick. I may be conflating the two of them, so I can't be more specific. I'll try to post links when I'm not on my phone.
    I'll check it, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    For Peterson specifically, ContraPoints on YouTube has a good video on him, and the Majority Report has a few segments where they deconstruct his argument and/or schtick. I may be conflating the two of them, so I can't be more specific. I'll try to post links when I'm not on my phone.
    The Contra video is also amazingly weird and hilarious. Girl has an amazing talent for mood lighting, too.

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