the intellectual dark web has become an anti intellectual movement

[JohnBrown1917]

But their group has nothing to do with the 'deep web' or the 'dark web', it is just a pseudonym they have collectively adopted.

Truly the dorkiest of dorks.

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Stefan molyneux ftw, such a smart and great guy to listen to.

No surprise to see fans of that guy on MMO-C lol

[JohnBrown1917]

Being anti-fringe left idiocy does not make one a conservative, no matter how much you say that.

Nobody here actually believes those dorks when they claim to not be conservatives. Peterson holds some very conservative views even, don't make me laugh.

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Where's your degree from Harvard? Lol. You're a silly person.

What is your point? Even the biggest idiots can be good enough at 1 subject to get a degree. Ben Carson rings a bell?

[shise]

Might as well claim that the Earth is flat, cause climate change exists from way before than us. What we are doing is screwing up the planet and wild life, which is not good nor acceptable anyway, and there is hard fact, literally, all around you.

[JohnBrown1917]

The point was that for somebody of such supposed intellectual prowess as you must think you have to critique highly educated men, I figured you had some form of advanced degree in something other than posting on forums. Not to mention the fact that your ignorance is on full display when you apparently don't understand the number of disciplines Ben Carson would have to be an expert in to achieve the level of success as a brain surgeon that he did.

He is a genius Brain surgeon, yes, but that does not change a lot of the stupid shit that comes from his mouth, ever read about what he said about the pyramids?
"But he is smart!!!" is not an argument for why they are right about everything. Having a degree in 1 thing does not make you an expert in everything.

[Jorlen]

The Contra video is also amazingly weird and hilarious. Girl has an amazing talent for mood lighting, too.

I had to turn that off after 3 mins, that is not how you make a video to contradict someone's arguments...I don't know what I saw.

[Mihalik]

I originally mostly only disagreed with Peterson on his views on religion. But in recent times he really fell of the wagon. It was horrifying to watch, to see an otherwise intelligent and insightful person falling for the momentum of the vocal crazy fringes of his own followers. I don't think he is completely lost yet, but he is skirting the edges of respectability.

I have no idea who Nyborg is, but Molyneux has ALWAYS been a ridiculous shitpeddling loon. It takes 10 minutes to figure out the guy is a lunatic.

[GreenGoldSharpie]

I had to turn that off after 3 mins, that is not how you make a video to contradict someone's arguments...I don't know what I saw.

Of course it is. Farce and self deprecation are powerful tools when addressing the self serious, particularly when combined with the education to really rip someone apart. There's no way to respond, and it's the entire reason Natalie's become something of an alt-right whisperer.

[Mormolyce]

Facts are often socially constructed. Facts can be created by asking certain questions and attempting to answer them in certain environments. Science is among many things also a SOCIAL institution where young prospective scientists go along to get along.

LOL@all of this.

Aren't you guys supposed to be pretending to be STEMlords?

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He is a genius Brain surgeon, yes, but that does not change a lot of the stupid shit that comes from his mouth, ever read about what he said about the pyramids?
"But he is smart!!!" is not an argument for why they are right about everything. Having a degree in 1 thing does not make you an expert in everything.

I've listened to him speak. He is not particularly smart, he's one of the many academics in the soft sciences and humanities who spouts a lot of meaningless academia-waffle to convince people he's smarter than he really is. Which translates nicely into his new career as a motivational speaker - the used car salesman of intellectuals. His arguments are frequently poorly thought out and badly presented.

He is, to repeat the phrase, the stupid person's smart person.

[GreenGoldSharpie]

LOL@all of this.

Aren't you guys supposed to be pretending to be STEMlords?

This thread is just a general example of how far some folks will chase a rabbit down the hole while ignoring everything else going on around them. These self serious arguments won't change reality, and at some point they'll have to deal with the folks who are driving a bunch of real problems on the horizon. It's honestly just sad.

[OrcsRLame]

It was Eric Weinstein, here is his video on how and why he coined the name:



TL;DW:
- He uses the term 'dark' ironically since they are painted as being evil and expressing forbidden ideas.
- Web, simply because they are a network of people.

And and you keep accusing them of being conservative, which is rather absurd... Some of them supported Bernie Sanders... Most of them them ardently supported Clinton... Only one single person among them is actually a 'conservative', Ben Shapiro... And he's been an outspoken anti-Trump conservative.

Being anti-fringe left idiocy does not make one a conservative, no matter how much you say that.

I don't know what's funnier. The fact that it took 4 pages before someone posted this or that people are still triggered by the name. Good job on posting the actual facts!

[Mormolyce]

That he is pushing back against SJW culture and deconstructive postmodernism/reductive materialism as the main social narrative is icing on the cake.

Okay, I'm going to have to ask you one more time just what in the name of fuck you think "postmodernism" is, because here you're slashing it with materialism? And... deconstructivism?

What the hell has Peterson told you this time?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

That motherfucker Molyneaux is one of the few people in the world that I hate. I can't stand his smug face and his arrogant way of talking nonsense. I think the world would be a better place if him and the toxic ideology he spouts died.

Ah isn’t it great that some one so crazy can exist though? I remeber he made a video about why women can’t judge men because it’s past womens fault yet he constantly blames women for all the problems of the world. I doudt you could find some one so unhinged that seems to truly believe the crap they spout.

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I got kicked out of almost every single transgender "support group" on Reddit for my conservative views. A lot of conservatives lost friends because they voted for Trump. Family members split apart because they can't tolerate trump voters.

Tell me again why conservativism isn't at this point in time a counter movement. We are hated by society for no good reason.

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Cultural marxism does exist. Why do you think SJWs want to shame you for "cultural appropriation"? Marx believed in an indefinite revolution. And this leads to cultural aspects of the said revolution which includes perpetual need to reform and push for more social justice. Question: Have we obtained true equality between different "races"? The answer is YES. But with that comes the death of any rational revolution. Marxism is not rational, so they invent problems like cultural appropriation, they push self hatred of one's own ancestry.

More buzzwords than a bingo session during a marketing meeting...check

Thinks USA has achieved racial equality


Hmmmm

[OrcsRLame]

Okay, I'm going to have to ask you one more time just what in the name of fuck you think "postmodernism" is, because here you're slashing it with materialism? And... deconstructivism?

What the hell has Peterson told you this time?

I think the most simple definition of postmodernism is the rejection of meta narratives. I think Connal is simply asserting that SJWs reject all meta narratives other than reductive materialism.

[Independent voter]

The word "postmodernism" is mostly used to describe an art or architecture style.

It's like someone who doesn't know the definition of the word but uses it anyway.

[GreenGoldSharpie]

More buzzwords than a bingo session during a marketing meeting...check

Thinks USA has achieved racial equality


Hmmmm

Meanwhile, segregation is becoming a real problem in education again. Another issue none of these guys will ever, ever talk about.

[OrcsRLame]

The word "postmodernism" is mostly used to describe an art or architecture style.

It's like someone who doesn't know the definition of the word but uses it anyway.

That's simply not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern_philosophy

If anything, the philosophy is more famous than its use in architecture and literature.

[Mormolyce]

Sure.

In a social setting, saying that no one perspective is "true" or "more accurate" than any other, or that there are a multitude of perspectives so choosing one over the other is "wrong".

Again, you're confusing postmodernism with moral relativism. Postmodernism really is more about architecture, art and art criticism... that's why terms like "deconstructivism" come up, because that refers to a technique in art and art criticism...

I think part of that is right. There are many perspectives, opinions, etc, on many different social issues, but to say no one is "optimal" (at least to a certain point in time) is wrong.

Prove it.

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That's simply not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern_philosophy

If anything, the philosophy is more famous than its use in architecture and literature.

No it isn't. If you say "postmodernist" people probably assume you're talking about art.

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Tell me again why conservativism isn't at this point in time a counter movement. We are hated by society for no good reason.

Yeah I can't think of a single reason why conservatives are hated. LOL.

[Mormolyce]

I am talking about postmodern philosophy... not art. Which label you want to use is kind of irrelevant.

As for proof... I can kill someone because of various views I have, or not. Killing someone will bring on worse outcomes and consequences than not, usually, in a civilized society. That is an extreme black and white example.

I can use drugs, and abuse them, because I feel life is unfair, I have been wronged, and see myself as a victim of circumstance, or I can look past victimhood and work to better my life without drugs, or other vices. That is also a "view" and a choice.

Prove that killing someone or taking drugs will always lead to "worse outcomes".

I recommend first establishing an objective definition of "worse". Good luck.

[downnola]

I recommend first establishing an objective definition of "worse". Good luck.

A state or condition that is unfavorable compared to another.

Jeez, that was hard.