How are Disc priests looking in BFA for Mythic+?

[Deleted]

Still cannot decide what healer I want to play at launch. My focus will be mythic+ and casual heroic raiding. Thanks!

[La]

I believe the highest key done in M+ on the beta has had a Disc. Discs do really well in M+

Holy is also amazing for throughput in raids. Disc is decent.

[Beerbill Society]

Well, my leveling (20-80) experience is they suck... Got kicked from a dungeon because they healer is using 'Smite' OMG

Also have been called noob because people's health aren't full the whole time...

Basically the only heal they have is shadow mend and is basically a spam fest...

PW: S just feels weak, especially since it does not have cd.

Hopefully higher levels it's better, but they are performing really bad with the squish.

[Comfort]

Well, my leveling experience is they suck... Got kicked from a dungeon because they healer is using 'Smite' OMG

Also have been called noob because people's health aren't full the whole time...

Basically the only heal they have is shadow mend and is basically a spam fest...

PW: S just feels weak, especially since it does not have cd.

Hopefully higher levels it's better, but they are performing really bad with the squish.

No serious group will give anyone these issues at max level so I would say ignore this reply completely. The only time you need to worry about ppl being topped or close to is is grievous and its probably not the best affix for disc, some healers have better toolkits to counter the affix.

It does use more shadowmend than you typically would use in other pve content. But is also gains pretty strong burst to AoE with schism > penance > solace.

pw: s is simply an Atonement applicator, you can use rapture to make the shields higher for things that hit hard.

Disc is one of the stronger healers after the squish when played correctly (it pretty much plays the same as before the patch with pw:s replacing plea :/). its really enjoyable with some of the bfa changes (im really happy Schism is in the place it is in now).

I would say disc/holy pala/druid are going to be good picks for doing m+ and all healers are capable in heroic raiding.

You can check out Raider.io to get an idea of classes/specs in m+

[ginchy]

Disc priest are top right now, alongside MW monks.

[Yunzi]

No serious group will give anyone these issues at max level so I would say ignore this reply completely. The only time you need to worry about ppl being topped or close to is is grievous and its probably not the best affix for disc, some healers have better toolkits to counter the affix.

I wish Shadow Covenant didn't get such a bad rap. It's good to counter not only Grievous, but any AoE - so Bursting and Explosive as well.

Since mana isn't much of an issue in M+, you can also throw out Power Word: Radiance for group healing.

[Nynax]

Well, my leveling (20-80) experience is they suck... Got kicked from a dungeon because they healer is using 'Smite' OMG

Also have been called noob because people's health aren't full the whole time...

Basically the only heal they have is shadow mend and is basically a spam fest...

PW: S just feels weak, especially since it does not have cd.

Hopefully higher levels it's better, but they are performing really bad with the squish.

The only real noobs in those groups were definitely not you.

And as Comfort noted, you can find comfort (hehe) in knowing that the leveling experience will be nothing like post 100 content.

[Comfort]

Max level disc right now is the most fun I have in a long time with the spec. I have some pretty nic gear fotlr damage while leveling too XD. I recently did a maw +22 with it on and I was top dps on the first boss with my regular group I did up to 24 during the pre-patch with, on this "new" priest that leveled shortly before the pre-patch.

[Deleted]

Doing low lvl dungeons is a nightmare for disc since the stat squish. First of all, the balance in the lower levels is extremely off. This manifests in mobs hitting super hard (certain mobs are simply broken) and tanks still thinking they can mass pull in dungeons like ye olden days.

Having leveled a few healers and tanks through the first ~60 levels since the stat squish, it's become obvious to me that most people aren't playing properly (dodging shit and using active mitigation). This along with the borked stat squish results in many mobs being able to 2-shot people, which happens a lot quicker and unexpected that one may realize.

The good news is that all classes suffer from it. Disc just notices it more because we're a prediction class. And it turns it's pretty damn hard to predict stupid and borked scaling at the same time...

[Caladia]

I'm curious how conversation about leveling a Disc Priest in regular dungeons got into a thread specifically about M+ dungeons. As for those that actually made comment, that's good information. I was Shadow/Holy in Legion, but we have another Holy Priest already and I'm looking to main healer this time. So I've been focusing on Disc over Holy so we have both in the raid. Gonna take some learning for it though.

[Deleted]

Played a single 120 dungeon with Disc after playing Holy the whole time. I really don't know about this spec. I always feel like I'm barely doing anything and there's no real way to do burst healing like Holy does.

It works if there's sustained damage and the group isn't doing anything stupid, but I feel completely powerless if a lot of adds get pulled at once. With Holy I have no problem compensating for the group's errors, but with Disc they pretty much just die. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it doesn't seem good to me at all.

[Comfort]

Played a single 120 dungeon with Disc after playing Holy the whole time. I really don't know about this spec. I always feel like I'm barely doing anything and there's no real way to do burst healing like Holy does.

It works if there's sustained damage and the group isn't doing anything stupid, but I feel completely powerless if a lot of adds get pulled at once. With Holy I have no problem compensating for the group's errors, but with Disc they pretty much just die. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it doesn't seem good to me at all.

Disc is not like other healer specs where you can just choose that spec and just go, there is a bit more to learn to get what you need out of it. Once you learn it though it is very rewarding. Anyone having issues with the spec should probably look at the information that is around for improving at disc. There are guides and a discord.

[Deleted]

Played a single 120 dungeon with Disc after playing Holy the whole time. I really don't know about this spec. I always feel like I'm barely doing anything and there's no real way to do burst healing like Holy does.

It works if there's sustained damage and the group isn't doing anything stupid, but I feel completely powerless if a lot of adds get pulled at once. With Holy I have no problem compensating for the group's errors, but with Disc they pretty much just die. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it doesn't seem good to me at all.

All I can suggest is to try and get over the feeling of not doing anything.

I've resto druid healed since ICC, but decided to go priest as I stopped enjoying druid. The feeling of not doing anything really, really held me back. I felt like I was struggling through content, being barely able to keep people alive and purposefully avoided some Mythic+ that have big AoE damage. I was probably pretty bad, as I think I got too strung up on the atonement to heal stuff, so I rarely used shadow mend or penance defensively. BUT once you get over that initial worry, disc feels pretty good, to be honest! It's just a big hurdle to get over, especially if you're used to other healers.

[karrad]

Doing low lvl dungeons is a nightmare for disc since the stat squish. First of all, the balance in the lower levels is extremely off. This manifests in mobs hitting super hard (certain mobs are simply broken) and tanks still thinking they can mass pull in dungeons like ye olden days.

Having leveled a few healers and tanks through the first ~60 levels since the stat squish, it's become obvious to me that most people aren't playing properly (dodging shit and using active mitigation). This along with the borked stat squish results in many mobs being able to 2-shot people, which happens a lot quicker and unexpected that one may realize.

The good news is that all classes suffer from it. Disc just notices it more because we're a prediction class. And it turns it's pretty damn hard to predict stupid and borked scaling at the same time...

I had the exact opposite experience leveling my disc post-squish. I was routinely top/2nd dps in my groups and had no issue keeping people alive. Once i got the smite absorb talent I could basically negate any boss damage by just keeping the absorb up. You just have to know when to use shadow mend and penance defensively, and you have pain suppression if you get behind.

[Athorha]

I had the exact opposite experience leveling my disc post-squish. I was routinely top/2nd dps in my groups and had no issue keeping people alive. Once i got the smite absorb talent I could basically negate any boss damage by just keeping the absorb up. You just have to know when to use shadow mend and penance defensively, and you have pain suppression if you get behind.

This: I started leveling for heritage, and from 20-80 I was consistently 1/2 on damage with noone ever really dipping on health too hard. Keeping SW:P on all targets and refreshing atonement as necessary. Mind you I was also LF Draenei so light's judgement absolutely wrecked when tanks chain pulled.

[Deleted]

All I can suggest is to try and get over the feeling of not doing anything.

I've resto druid healed since ICC, but decided to go priest as I stopped enjoying druid. The feeling of not doing anything really, really held me back. I felt like I was struggling through content, being barely able to keep people alive and purposefully avoided some Mythic+ that have big AoE damage. I was probably pretty bad, as I think I got too strung up on the atonement to heal stuff, so I rarely used shadow mend or penance defensively. BUT once you get over that initial worry, disc feels pretty good, to be honest! It's just a big hurdle to get over, especially if you're used to other healers.

It's so weird. I've played Disc in MoP and it was so much fun anticipating damage with Spirit Shell and managing my mana with procs from a fully absorbed PW:S. I really got into it and tried my best to optimize since I felt like I was rewarded for everything I did. I think I still have two rank 1's for some 25 player bosses in the first tier on WoL, if that's any indicator. And now I'm sitting here trying to heal with the same (overhauled) spec, barely managing to keep groups in NHCs alive. Either I've gotten really bad at the game or it really does require way too much work for the same healing effect as holy. It honestly feels like crap and is just no fun at all to me.

[Raiz]

It's so weird. I've played Disc in MoP and it was so much fun anticipating damage with Spirit Shell and managing my mana with procs from a fully absorbed PW:S. I really got into it and tried my best to optimize since I felt like I was rewarded for everything I did. I think I still have two rank 1's for some 25 player bosses in the first tier on WoL, if that's any indicator. And now I'm sitting here trying to heal with the same (overhauled) spec, barely managing to keep groups in NHCs alive. Either I've gotten really bad at the game or it really does require way too much work for the same healing effect as holy. It honestly feels like crap and is just no fun at all to me.

Nothing wrong with that. If you don't like playing disc, then don't force yourself. It's pretty clear you've already compared the 2 healing specs of the priest, and you concluded that you're more efficient with holy.
So really why bother ? if you're not having fun with disc, you can be sure you'll be skeptical for a long time about the effeciency of this spec. If you're having a blast with one spec, then it'll only be a matter of time before you push your limits.

[Zka]

Well, my leveling (20-80) experience is they suck... Got kicked from a dungeon because they healer is using 'Smite' OMG

Disc sucks because a random retard in lfd doesn't know the spec? Really?

[Faesroll]

Well, my leveling (20-80) experience is they suck... Got kicked from a dungeon because they healer is using 'Smite' OMG

Also have been called noob because people's health aren't full the whole time...

Basically the only heal they have is shadow mend and is basically a spam fest...

PW: S just feels weak, especially since it does not have cd.

Hopefully higher levels it's better, but they are performing really bad with the squish.

How is your leveling experience with randoms relevant to the topic?

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This: I started leveling for heritage, and from 20-80 I was consistently 1/2 on damage with noone ever really dipping on health too hard. Keeping SW:P on all targets and refreshing atonement as necessary. Mind you I was also LF Draenei so light's judgement absolutely wrecked when tanks chain pulled.

I don't think Light's Judgement procs Atonement?

[Puupi]

I'm looking for others' views on the azerite traits.

I feel like all of them are absolutely full of shit. They buff the abilities in such a minor way that I rather have Thunderous Blast/other zone damage procs or buffs instead of them.