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    canada revokes citizenship of man with ties to nazis

    https://www.dw.com/en/canadian-court...ain/a-45665727

    is it a good idea to revoke citizenship?

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    If they lie about their past involvement in extremist groups to go through the citizen process, yeah.

    That's actually fairly standard to revoke citizenships if it is found out about.

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    Man who lies to gain citizenship loses citizenship over like.

    What's the issue?

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    Good stuff if he lied about it.
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    In this case? Totally agree he should lose something that he was never eligible for - because he lied to get - in the first place.

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    Such a shame. Won't somebody please think of the Nazis? /s

    In before someone says what about revoking citizenship of people with ties to Antifa.
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    Before people blame Trudeau : the legal fight have been ungoing since 1995.

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    If you lie on your citizenship/green card/asylum/whatever paperwork it should be automatically invalid and any benefits gained from such should be revoked immediately. If he had become a citizen without lieing and then later got involved with hate groups, it would be wrong to revoke citizenship.

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    Ties to nazis or ISIS or any other extremist group, yeah, remove their citizenship. Problem is that so many people think that simply because someone is an immigrant from the middle east that they have an extremely high chance to be a terrorist, so this thread will have a lot of "WHERE'S THE LEFT'S OUTRAGE ABOUT THIS?!?!?!" with complete lack of awareness that nobody on the left wants terrorists in western nations.
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    What's the problem again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Ties to nazis or ISIS or any other extremist group, yeah, remove their citizenship. Problem is that so many people think that simply because someone is an immigrant from the middle east that they have an extremely high chance to be a terrorist, so this thread will have a lot of "WHERE'S THE LEFT'S OUTRAGE ABOUT THIS?!?!?!" with complete lack of awareness that nobody on the left wants terrorists in western nations.
    That's the thing though, the far right seems to think the left wants terrorists bombing the place and bringing in "foreign religions" and invaders.

    On-topic: If he lied to get in, then it's his own damn fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    That's the thing though, the far right seems to think the left wants terrorists bombing the place and bringing in "foreign religions" and invaders.

    On-topic: If he lied to get in, then it's his own damn fault.
    Well, seeing as how the logic of "Ignore immigration laws" means the people whining about Nazis should be arguing he should be able to stay. The article even mentions how he provided to the community, the usual excuse for ignoring the law.

    So, when should immigration laws be followed and enforced?

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    What's the problem again?
    Well it creates a odd dilemma. On one had nazis are portrayed as singularly evil. On the other a lot of people believe that people fleeing political persecution should be offered safe harbor .

    It offers a difficult dilemma to a lot of peoples core beliefs but I imagine most wont be that introspective .

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    US has a case going through the federal courts right now deciding if we can strip citizenship from anyone that lied on any portion of their citizenship application. Hilarious part is that if it passes, the the first lady would be one of the ones stripped since she was illegal and lied on her paperwork.
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    An elected Republican called for biblical law to be implemented and for all non-christians to be murdered. But it's sharia law we should be scared about right?

    Republicans ran an actual Nazi for office in 2018 and he got nearly 1/3rd of the votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushbunny View Post
    Well it creates a odd dilemma. On one had nazis are portrayed as singularly evil. On the other a lot of people believe that people fleeing political persecution should be offered safe harbor .

    It offers a difficult dilemma to a lot of peoples core beliefs but I imagine most wont be that introspective .
    It's the tolerance dilemma, if we strive to be tolerant, should we be tolerant towards intolerance? The answer is no. I'm not sure I can do justice to the explanation, but it's there. It's presented as a dilemma, but in reality the answer is within the principles themselves.

    That aside, if he lied in his application for citizenship, by all means throw him out. That's not even a matter of tolerance, just obeying laws.
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    Well, didn't the person basically lie on the application? If so, then that is the reason.

    Then again, if someone that has been seemingly forced to participate and we can't prove or disprove that, what are we to do then?

    What about the part of him having greatly supported the local community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    https://www.dw.com/en/canadian-court...ain/a-45665727

    is it a good idea to revoke citizenship?
    Yeah because Canada has the right to vet the naturalization process. Otherwise there is no grounds for rejecting those with bad ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    What's the problem again?
    Canada can't seem to figure out what do as this is the 4th time they've done it. They better hurry up the guy is 94

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