PvP scaling is garbage that ruins the whole experience

[FoxyAnatoliy]

First of all, it's just my point of view, and that's why. When i engage into combat with a low lvl char, i expect that i should be stronger, because i've invested more time into development of my char, and this is a matter of progression. But when any pvp combat with low lvl lasts forever, and it's not 100% gurantee that you're gona win, it destroys the whole feeling of progression. What's the poing of leveling and gearing (in context of PvP, ofc), when someone, who doesnt even reached max lvl, can easily give you and even fight? I'm not that kind of a clicker, that can't reach 2400+ arena rating, it's not about skill. It's about another socialistic abomination, when your efforts have no value.

What do you guys think of it?

[Darkeon]

This post made me happy. So Blizzard is doing something right.

[Nachtigal]

Sounds to me like you tried killing a lowbie so you could cause him some grief.... and got smacked for it.

[Hyral]

If PvP is too hard you can always turn it off.

[Villager720]

All these responses are great. Great.

[gblSweet]

So... you tried to kill a nowbie and... died?
I think you should rethink about pvping. Maybe it's just not for you.

I'm glad Blizzard did something about players who went out to kill lowbies for fun.

[Deleted]

I don't really understand what you're saying.

Because if you're saying changes have now made it so that gear/level is less relevant but ability is more relevant, ain't that a good thing?

[Deleted]

Good, never had 2400+, never bother to have it, and by God, I am allowed to pwn gankers if I am able to

[lu8burz]

First of all, it's just my point of view, and that's why. When i engage into combat with a low lvl char, i expect that i should be stronger, because i've invested more time into development of my char, and this is a matter of progression. But when any pvp combat with low lvl lasts forever, and it's not 100% gurantee that you're gona win, it destroys the whole feeling of progression. What's the poing of leveling and gearing (in context of PvP, ofc), when someone, who doesnt even reached max lvl, can easily give you and even fight? I'm not that kind of a clicker, that can't reach 2400+ arena rating, it's not about skill. It's about another socialistic abomination, when your efforts have no value.

What do you guys think of it?

i usually don't play pvp, but i really like, what you tell us. it seems, blizzard got rid of low-lvl-ganking and that's practically really good.

[Cucultlan]

Maybe you didnt know but for those who played the beta knows that begin a fresh dinged 120 vs a lvl 116 - 119 you are going to have a hard time killing them since their base stats for their lvl are higher than yours.
Until you have full heroic gear/mythic gear you will start having an easier time and its 4 days on the exp so i doub5 you have that amount of gear.
Ah and heart of azeroth minimum at 15 for "good" stats that its so easy to get if you dont rush the lvling process

[Cyanu]

First of all, it's just my point of view, and that's why. When i engage into combat with a low lvl char, i expect that i should be stronger, because i've invested more time into development of my char, and this is a matter of progression. But when any pvp combat with low lvl lasts forever, and it's not 100% gurantee that you're gona win, it destroys the whole feeling of progression. What's the poing of leveling and gearing (in context of PvP, ofc), when someone, who doesnt even reached max lvl, can easily give you and even fight? I'm not that kind of a clicker, that can't reach 2400+ arena rating, it's not about skill. It's about another socialistic abomination, when your efforts have no value.

What do you guys think of it?

tbh i think you're doing something wrong

yes you can no longer 100-0 lower level players in 2 gcds but you still have a significant advantage over them which should be enough

i can't see a situation in which if you play decently (not expertly, no master plays, no mind blowing skill etc, just do the basic stuff your class does) the lowbie will win, no matter how good he plays

ps: for the record when i was 116-118 i was dying a fair amount of times against 120 players (which happened to have 15-20k life more than me) but now i just jump on whatever lowbie i see and kill him relatively swiftly (unless major dcds involved in which case i just wait)

[Hyral]

Think we need a new dismissive catch phrase for situations like this now that PvP servers don't exist.

War happened to a War Mode enabled player?

[Darsithis]

Seems like you're just not happy that you can't steamroll low-level players who are trying to just play the game anymore, and need to rely on skill rather than overwhelming power through level & gear.

I had a 120 priest attack me while I was attacking around 8 mobs or so (blood DK). I couldn't kill him, and he did eventually take me down, but it took him a long time. He didn't try again after that.

[yjmark]

First of all, it's just my point of view, and that's why. When i engage into combat with a low lvl char, i expect that i should be stronger, because i've invested more time into development of my char, and this is a matter of progression. But when any pvp combat with low lvl lasts forever, and it's not 100% gurantee that you're gona win, it destroys the whole feeling of progression. What's the poing of leveling and gearing (in context of PvP, ofc), when someone, who doesnt even reached max lvl, can easily give you and even fight? I'm not that kind of a clicker, that can't reach 2400+ arena rating, it's not about skill. It's about another socialistic abomination, when your efforts have no value.

What do you guys think of it?

I think you need to learn to get better at PvP to kill others instead of relying on outleveling them. You say that "it's not about skill"......but that is completely wrong. It is 100% about skill.

[HuxNeva]

Just learn how to twink for scaling and you'll steamroll all again.

[NutellaCrepe]

You are never owed a victory.

[Gungnir]

I've been playing a lot of PvP over the years and I'm just honestly sick and tired of just how much health people have nowadays in proportion to actual damage.
It feels like you're two raidbosses trying to go at eachother with pool noodles.

Just up the damage by like 3x and it'll be a lot more fun.

[Deleted]

OP is entirely correct - lowbies should be easier to kill, this is the entire point of an RPG progression system.

[Skorpionss]

I kinda share your sentiment, I was doing some duels in the dueler's guild thingy in zuldazar, and got paired with a lvl 115 retri, me being a 120 lvl arms... he was killing me in 3 globals... I'm not even kidding...

[Deleted]

So you are a 2400+ pvper who got owned by a low level? I don't believe you have a 2400+ rating.