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    Clean up your goddamn forum

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    It's okay. Because some governments saw fit to shove violent refugees who have no intention of integrating, down the throats of some countries, the nazis in those countries are rising in popularity once more. Soon we will have a new Hitler, and he will have a final solution of sorts.

    It's how the Univers stays in balance.
    Just do it.
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    Nah we need to moderate the ones calling out the bad actors waaaay more than the bad actors themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Just do it.
    So what you mean is "clean up opinions I disagree with"

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    Not happening.

    Some are buddies with the higher ups and some are alt reichies themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    So what you mean is "clean up opinions I disagree with"
    Here mods, I'll draw them all out for you.

    You know what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Here mods, I'll draw them all out for you.

    You know what to do.
    Pretty sure you calling out mods to "clean up their forum" is more so against the forum rules than anything I replied with. But hey, you do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Pretty sure you calling out mods to "clean up their forum" is more so against the forum rules than anything I replied with. But hey, you do you.
    Cool thanks I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    So what you mean is "clean up opinions I disagree with"
    Gen OT and Politics are becoming cesspools of outright alt righters and neo Nazis where the mods now are admittedly taking a more hands off approach due to not wanting to appear to take a side.

    I've privately talked to mods and super mods and been given the same response of "we'll handle big problems but we can't take a side."

    It's not about a difference in political opinion. But when you have folks on the boards advocating genocide, harassment and assault of minorities, and a ton of other disgusting shit that just get swept under the rug, or if they get banned it can take like a week of their nonstop posting before action is taken, it gets to be too much. But if you call them out, you get infracted on the spot.

    I'll gladly take an infraction for this post because I've tried going through the proper channels like we keep being told and I get told to deal with it because dog whistling for racism or violence is "political speech" and outright advocating violence is "just their side of things."

    WoW discussion forums, official and fan, all devolving into white nationalist havens will look real good on a Kotaku article. Because that's the direction where they've all started going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Gen OT and Politics are becoming cesspools of outright alt righters and neo Nazis where the mods now are admittedly taking a more hands off approach due to not wanting to appear to take a side.

    I've privately talked to mods and super mods and been given the same response of "we'll handle big problems but we can't take a side."

    It's not about a difference in political opinion. But when you have folks on the boards advocating genocide, harassment and assault of minorities, and a ton of other disgusting shit that just get swept under the rug, or if they get banned it can take like a week of their nonstop posting before action is taken, it gets to be too much. But if you call them out, you get infracted on the spot.

    I'll gladly take an infraction for this post because I've tried going through the proper channels like we keep being told and I get told to deal with it because dog whistling for racism or violence is "political speech" and outright advocating violence is "just their side of things."
    And look at what good the hands off approach does, we have a continual shit show but still have retards shouting about mods being biased to the left and even whining about people who aren’t even fucking mods any more. It’s almost like those people that break the rules the most are the ones that whine about the rules being enforced the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Gen OT and Politics are becoming cesspools of outright alt righters and neo Nazis where the mods now are admittedly taking a more hands off approach due to not wanting to appear to take a side.

    I've privately talked to mods and super mods and been given the same response of "we'll handle big problems but we can't take a side."

    It's not about a difference in political opinion. But when you have folks on the boards advocating genocide, harassment and assault of minorities, and a ton of other disgusting shit that just get swept under the rug, or if they get banned it can take like a week of their nonstop posting before action is taken, it gets to be too much. But if you call them out, you get infracted on the spot.

    I'll gladly take an infraction for this post because I've tried going through the proper channels like we keep being told and I get told to deal with it because dog whistling for racism or violence is "political speech" and outright advocating violence is "just their side of things."

    WoW discussion forums, official and fan, all devolving into white nationalist havens will look real good on a Kotaku article. Because that's the direction where they've all started going.
    Which is stupid, because when it comes to Nazis, there is only one side. You either go to war against them, or you're part of the problem.

    For a country that likes to masturbate a lot to how they "won" the Second World War, you'd think the US would be a lot smarter about dealing with Nazism.
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    I think switching from a more lenient to a more aggressive approach in moderation also brings its own problems.

    If the moderation was only banning the very crass examples up until now that are obvious, and now suddenly take a more stern approach it gets more and more confusing.

    I still don't get this one infraction from yesterday. Sure the post was aggressive, but i don't see how it was different from many other post/posters that are similar aggressive. If they clamp down on aggressive postings now, i think we need stricter rules alltogether, because right now i can see where the argument of mod-bias comes from.

    I would have hoped that there would be some kind of explanation, and i can understand the mod team that discussing this public is in itself a pandoras box, but right now i'm just confused as to where is the red line for posting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veredyn View Post
    Which is stupid, because when it comes to Nazis, there is only one side. You either go to war against them, or you're part of the problem.

    For a country that likes to masturbate a lot to how they "won" the Second World War, you'd think the US would be a lot smarter about dealing with Nazism.
    The interesting thing is that it's not just MMO-Champion, they're just dropping the ball with moderation and selectively choosing when to act so they "don't pick a side." But basically every video game forum, fan forum, and even certain social media outlets are turning into outright white nationalist rallies with mods scared to act. The WoW forums in particular are bloody terrible, but they have a lot more players and the mods seem to at least try to clean it up SOME.

    Obviously MMO-Champion is the only one relevant to this particular discussion, since it's on their boards, but it's getting fucking ridiculous. You'll get infracted faster for calling someone an idiot than dog whistling for murder. And going through the proper channels is a farce.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    tldr everyone is a nazi for not agreeing with me and i am going to throw tantrums like a toddler and act like nutjob to get them banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Gen OT and Politics are becoming cesspools of outright alt righters and neo Nazis where the mods now are admittedly taking a more hands off approach due to not wanting to appear to take a side.

    I've privately talked to mods and super mods and been given the same response of "we'll handle big problems but we can't take a side."

    It's not about a difference in political opinion. But when you have folks on the boards advocating genocide, harassment and assault of minorities, and a ton of other disgusting shit that just get swept under the rug, or if they get banned it can take like a week of their nonstop posting before action is taken, it gets to be too much. But if you call them out, you get infracted on the spot.

    I'll gladly take an infraction for this post because I've tried going through the proper channels like we keep being told and I get told to deal with it because dog whistling for racism or violence is "political speech" and outright advocating violence is "just their side of things."

    WoW discussion forums, official and fan, all devolving into white nationalist havens will look real good on a Kotaku article. Because that's the direction where they've all started going.
    Here, Here! I just wish they would make a rule where u can't create and post in politics thread with under X amount. I agree what some have been infracted for compared to others who have or have not has a huge disparity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangebrew View Post
    tldr everyone is a nazi for not agreeing with me and i am going to throw tantrums like a toddler and act like nutjob to get them banned.
    Peak irony from this one.

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    You guys call everyone to the right of you "Nazi."

    You're all hysterical.

    The OP quoted person is just describing reality. He's not calling for a new Hitler. Calm the fuck down.
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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