Affliction Nerf incoming...

[Mulishaman]

With the 20% nerf to afflictions nuke "Summon Darkglare", anyone feel this is going to gravely hurt our single target numbers? I have never been a fan of nerfs to core spec abilities, nerfing talents is more balanced to me but I already see some destro and demo locks out there, could the nerf push people over into other specs?

[Malix Farwin]

No what made the CD really good is the DoT extension not the damage the pet did. At best it did maybe 3% of aff damage and will do maybe 2.8%. You wont even notice the nerf.

[Walrock]

Its a nerf to our burst, which is deserved, they are targeting the right spell.
But Aff is still fine and still the best spec for Uldir.
The buff for Destro and Demo was needed, but not enough to make them competitive.
But they are all fine to play if you do casual stuff like normals and lower keys.

[Mulishaman]

No what made the CD really good is the DoT extension not the damage the pet did. At best it did maybe 3% of aff damage and will do maybe 2.8%. You wont even notice the nerf.

I thought the 10% increase from each dot made the pet damage pretty big. I could be wrong though.

[Dwill]

The nerf was around 1.1% damage in ST. It'll barely be felt.

[Malix Farwin]

I thought the 10% increase from each dot made the pet damage pretty big. I could be wrong though.

No it literally just nerfed the irect damage the pet did by 20% which is not why you use the pet.

An example using a top US log on the first boss:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=31

did 232k out of 3.68m. That 232k is what is nerfed by 20% which would make it 185k so he would still be in the same spot just slightly less.

[Gaidax]

Yes such terrible terrible nerf, such grave dps loss.

Aff seriously got off easy, people who think this change does anything meaningful are clueless. Why I wonder why Blizz even bothered with this "nerf".

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Its a nerf to our burst, which is deserved, they are targeting the right spell.

They are targeting the right spell but the wrong portion of it. In my opinion a world where spec with good sustain and multidot outbursts a spec which is pretty much a 3 min wonder and non-existent outside it is fucked up.

[CuchuCachu]

It’s not a huge deal. I mean, they can’t hurt our single target dps too bad. It’s all we have!!!!!

[Maleific]

The dot extension would have to be hit for it to be a meaningful nerf. And I am expecting something along those lines.

[slickwilly]

Yes such terrible terrible nerf, such grave dps loss.

Aff seriously got off easy, people who think this change does anything meaningful are clueless. Why I wonder why Blizz even bothered with this "nerf".

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They are targeting the right spell but the wrong portion of it. In my opinion a world where spec with good sustain and multidot outbursts a spec which is pretty much a 3 min wonder and non-existent outside it is fucked up.

It's a small nerf because aff didnt really need a nerf. It's good at long living cleave and single target but has poor aoe and target swap burst. If it's single target was made mediocre then it would ruin the spec.

[Deleted]

The inevitable demise buff/nerf (?) is actually much more interesting. If the single application really was buffed by 30%, then that will gain quite a large edge over other single traits.

[Shandalar]

The nerf was because the cryers, pretty obvious.

[Bakis]

The nerf was because the cryers, pretty obvious.

In that case DEVs trolled them hard. This nerf is tiny.

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The inevitable demise buff/nerf (?) is actually much more interesting. If the single application really was buffed by 30%, then that will gain quite a large edge over other single traits.

It's badass but can still be a pain to avoid it from falling off.
WB is what I personally will try to stack.
After I noticed the changes to Sudden Onset... I stack it x2 so far, hunting the head in Waycrest Manor

[Argalok]

The dot extension would have to be hit for it to be a meaningful nerf. And I am expecting something along those lines.

This will appear in our -next- hotfixes update, and is already live with weekly maintenance in each region:
Warlock - Affliction
Deathbolt's damage now only counts up to the maximum base duration of your DoTs

[Jimmyw]

This will appear in our -next- hotfixes update, and is already live with weekly maintenance in each region:
Warlock - Affliction
Deathbolt's damage now only counts up to the maximum base duration of your DoTs

How big of a hit is this? No more 135k+ deathbolt crits I guess

[Bakis]

Deathbolt's damage now only counts up to the maximum base duration of your DoTs

Wonder what it will turn out as, DB in Simulationcrafts default spec/gear sims to just 7% of our damage.

[Maleific]

This will appear in our -next- hotfixes update, and is already live with weekly maintenance in each region:
Warlock - Affliction
Deathbolt's damage now only counts up to the maximum base duration of your DoTs

This doesn't affect Dankglare so much. It's still a very powerful cd.

[Flintty]

The dot extension would have to be hit for it to be a meaningful nerf. And I am expecting something along those lines.

/cry

Feeling a bit bummed with the double nerf hammer. Will see what the result is in M+ later.

How big of a hit is this? No more 135k+ deathbolt crits I guess

I must have been doing something wrong. Usually hitting 30-40k myself...

[madmossy]

Yet even with the double nerf hammer bashing, afflocks are still crushing ST DPS, although both hunter ranged specs are ahead in Mythic Ohdear.

[xuros]

Wonder what it will turn out as, DB in Simulationcrafts default spec/gear sims to just 7% of our damage.

I think thats been active for a while now. They maybe just getting around to psoting it since they said its in game already. For a while now I've noticed my DBs are not hitting as hard as they were before Uldir hit. I was getting close to 150k DB crits for a while then one Tuesday they dropped way off from normal. Now the biggest crit I'll get at 360 with a perfectly set rotation leading up to the DB cast with darkglare up is around 70-80k.