Disc forbearance back ?

[Oneirophobia]

There should never be a moment where you can bring horrible compositions that look like you just grabbed absolutely whatever you could find out of desperation

That’s what LFR does though. Youre going to get arbitrarily assigned a bunch of disc priests who will now have to leave or get kicked because they can’t perform their job.

Advocate for that all you like, I’m sure I’ll be seeing you in a “why does LFG take hours?!” thread following anymore changes like this.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

Rip. It's the only thing saving me for 2 more seconds when a bunch of melee with 100% uptime, 845849 stuns and 8438 interrupts are deforming my face in random bgs D:

[Rucati]

I really don't see this changing much of anything. There's no real reason to spam shields unless things are going very very wrong. As long as Weakened Soul doesn't last longer than Atonement (which it doesn't) this really changes nothing as the only purpose of PW:S is to put up atonement currently. I mean seriously, how often do you cast two shields on someone within 6 seconds in any situation?

[Ultima]

Only in mad panic in an attempt to prevent a death with knowledge an interrupt is waiting to be used (looking at you, Shamans).

[Thelxi]

No more shield spamming in PvP damn this is huge.

[Puupi]

I mean seriously, how often do you cast two shields on someone within 6 seconds in any situation?

In PvP, all the time when running around like a headless chicken and spam shields on yourself/others.

[Ambulancee]

If this goes live, you won't see priests in pvp that much going forward.

Sometimes shields is all I can do going from one CC to another in arenas.
They should give us another spell for group/single target healing if this goes live.
We literally have shield/penance/mend in order to keep somebody up and if they remove penance we have mend until interrupted and penance every 9 seconds...

[Ardac]

I maybe wrong. But it looks like this only applies to the Body and Soul Talent from what the OP looks like or does it even effect thought that don't take it as well?

I'm slowly lvling my alt priest allied race (80s now) and the absorb amount of the shield feels like crap. Just really replaced plea for applying the buff for atonement healing.

[Alextros]

This has no negative impact in Pve whatsoever. PWS costs way too much mana to spam on a single target, compared to Shadow Mend anyways, and Rapture is going to ignore Weakened Soul. It does make Body and Soul more attractive, as the Cooldown is removed from that, since PWS will have a 6 second cooldown per person (as far as I can see on the PTR).

[Rotted]

They better buff power word shield absorbs.

It severely needs it, if I don't have rupture it I rarely shield anyone, I'll only cast it to get a few quick atonements up on someone whose dropping opposed for its damage mitigation .

[Alextros]

It severely needs it, if I don't have rupture it I rarely shield anyone, I'll only cast it to get a few quick atonements up on someone whose dropping opposed for its damage mitigation .

But that is it's intended use? You are not supposed to use PWS for anything else than Atonement....... Outside Rapture ofc.

[Rotted]

But that is it's intended use? You are not supposed to use PWS for anything else than Atonement....... Outside Rapture ofc.

I used to over use to try and shield people from incoming damage / standing in shit, then I read up more and asked around more and the general consensus I got was; I should try to keep 3-5 people bubbled at all times, now like I said, I just don't bother. Radiance is more than enough for any fight outside of big damage phases. At which point I just save the radiance and pop both when it starts.

[ho1Y]

But that is it's intended use? You are not supposed to use PWS for anything else than Atonement....... Outside Rapture ofc.

then why is the debuff needed again ?
protect idiots from spamming PWS ?

this will change a LOT! especially in pvp

what do you cast when u shielded, used penance and get kicked in mend in a situation when shit hits the fan? yes exactly! NOTHING
i see this as a problem

yeye i know 2 schools, riptide has also 6 sec cd blabla. remember that priest has the least healing thoughput, especially when under pressure.

[Alextros]

then why is the debuff needed again ?
protect idiots from spamming PWS ?

this will change a LOT! especially in pvp

what do you cast when u shielded, used penance and get kicked in mend in a situation when shit hits the fan? yes exactly! NOTHING
i see this as a problem

yeye i know 2 schools, riptide has also 6 sec cd blabla. remember that priest has the least healing thoughput, especially when under pressure.

It's not like all other healers have to sit through an interrupt, right? Right????. Yes, they have to, because they are either only healing with Holy or Nature, meaning that they will sit stuck too. It is a matter of baiting as with any other healer. You still got Rapture, which is going to ignore Weakened Soul. So you do still have more options than any other healing messing up.

I used to over use to try and shield people from incoming damage / standing in shit, then I read up more and asked around more and the general consensus I got was; I should try to keep 3-5 people bubbled at all times, now like I said, I just don't bother. Radiance is more than enough for any fight outside of big damage phases. At which point I just save the radiance and pop both when it starts.

As stated above, this is purely a pvp change, for it's intended use. You would usually do a few Pws then hit Radiance twice and then go on with your dps rotation. On top of that, SWP got a tiny buff (as it seems that the 9% damage reduced aura has been removed on SWP)

[Rucati]

In PvP, all the time when running around like a headless chicken and spam shields on yourself/others.

You should only be doing that with Rapture up which won't change. If you're spamming shields in PvP you probably aren't going to live very long I wouldn't imagine, there's almost always a better spell to be casting, shielding is only worthwhile for Atonement or if you get Shadow locked with Penance/Radiance both on CD which should almost never happen.

[Futtawuh]

I don't see this changing anything with Disc. I don't find myself spamming shield on the same target over and over in a 6 sec window. But hey, maybe some do.

[Thelxi]

You should only be doing that with Rapture up which won't change. If you're spamming shields in PvP you probably aren't going to live very long I wouldn't imagine, there's almost always a better spell to be casting, shielding is only worthwhile for Atonement or if you get Shadow locked with Penance/Radiance both on CD which should almost never happen.

You are wrong and should start spamming PWS in PvP before it is too late for you to experience the immortality.

[Hulk]

maybe i missed it in the thread,
does this mean that pve raids are back to having only 1 disc in the group ?

[Deleted]

maybe i missed it in the thread,
does this mean that pve raids are back to having only 1 disc in the group ?

No. Multiple discs will be fine in 1 raid as it is priest specific. This is purely a pvp nerf.

[Yhcti]

Isnt pws spammable at the moment on same target? So adding weakened soul will cripple arena for example when ud have to backtoback shield due to shadow mend being shit