Domestic abusers and stalkers should sign national register like sex offenders

[Independent voter]

, commons report says

Britain.

In the US in many states you can pull up a web page that shows you the name and addresses of sex offenders. If there's such a web page in Britain you could see domestic abusers, their name, address, if they live near you, if you work with them, etc.

Good idea?





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...register-like/

Domestic abusers and stalkers should be forced to sign a national register like sex offenders, a cross-party parliamentary report has said.

They should be monitored under the same arrangements as rapists and paedophiles, giving greater protection to victims who live in fear of their tormentors.

The Commons Home Affairs Committee backed calls for a register of serial stalkers and domestic violence perpetrators to be introduced "as a matter of urgency".

The perpetrators would have to register with the police within 72 hours of being convicted or cautioned and have to notify officers if they intend to move house or travel abroad.

Under the proposals, individuals on the register would be managed through multi-agency public protection arrangements (Mappa), the system used to manage the risks posed by violent and sexual offenders living in the community.

The report says: “Stalking is a serious crime which can have a devastating impact on the lives of victims.


Stalkers and domestic abusers would have to register with their local police force CREDIT: DAVID CHESKIN/PA
"Victims of stalking often endure years of abuse before the crime is taken seriously. We were told that existing criminal justice responses were often ineffective in stopping perpetrators."

Calls for a register have been led by Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service, which told the committee in a written submission: "A radical cultural shift is needed as current police practice is dire and not working.

"The register will save lives and money."

Laura Richards, founder of Paladin, said it would involve those who have been convicted and those who have offended on two occasions against two separate women.

She welcomed the committee’s support but told the Telegraph that it was now time for the government to act.

“It makes sense that the perpetrators of domestic abuse and stalking should be included in the same framework that is already in place for sex offenders,” she said.

“It is simply an expansion of conditions that are already in place but places the onus on the perpetrator rather than the victim.”

She said the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme, or Clare’s Law, was dependent on an individual asking about an offender’s history but that this would ensure offenders were tracked by the police as a matter of course.

In another recommendation, the Committee urged the Government to consult on introducing paid "domestic abuse leave" to help victims keep their jobs and maintain economic independence while escaping abuse.

The report flagged up a "desperate shortage" of refuge accommodation and raised concerns that welfare reform policies are making it more difficult for victims to leave their abusers.

It also said that while evidence indicates the police response to victims of domestic abuse is improving, there continue to be instances where it is "inadequate".

The findings were set out in a wide-ranging assessment of the Government's strategy for tackling domestic abuse.


Yvette Cooper. chair of the Commons committee CREDIT: CHARLOTTE GRAHAM
Plans unveiled by ministers earlier this year include new orders to place restrictions such as electronic tagging on abusers, a new statutory definition of domestic abuse including a reference to "economic" abuse, and tougher sentences for crimes that affect children.

Yvette Cooper, the Labour MP and chair of the Commons committee, said: "Domestic abuse is one of the most dangerous and the most common crimes there is.

"The Government is rightly proposing new legislation and a new strategy, but our inquiry found much stronger action is needed across the board."

The Government said improving the management of serial domestic abuse perpetrators and stalkers was high on its agenda, adding that it has been working to examine the current framework in detail and acknowledging the scope to improve information sharing, risk assessment and disclosure.

Katie Ghose, chief executive of Women's Aid, said: "The domestic abuse bill is a golden opportunity to transform the lives of survivors and tackle the root causes of domestic abuse once and for all.

"To achieve this, the bill must reflect the reality of survivors' experiences."

An estimated 1.9 million adults experienced domestic abuse in the previous 12 months, according to the Crime Survey for England and Wales for the year ending March 2017.

[cubby]

No. Pretty dumb and not-well-thought-out idea.

[vilememory]

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive men and their creepy stalker brethren. Women shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

[Forgettable]

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive men and their creepy stalker brethren. Women shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive women and their creepy stalker brethren. Men shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

[Kathandira]

I am ok with a registry for convicted Domestic Abusers.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Sure, if someone's convicted then by all means have them sign up on a registry. Never been the victim of an abusive man, but can say that stalkers are scary as hell.

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive women and their creepy stalker brethren. Men shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive people and their creepy stalker counterparts. Victims shouldn't have to live near these abusive assholes or crazed stalkers.

[Forgettable]

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive people and their creepy stalker counterparts. Victims shouldn't have to live near these abusive assholes or crazed stalkers.

This guy gets it.

[Noradin]

Britain.

In the US in many states you can pull up a web page that shows you the name and addresses of sex offenders. If there's such a web page in Britain you could see domestic abusers, their name, address, if they live near you, if you work with them, etc.

Good idea?

How many preteens are on that sex-offender list again?

Will teens who take nude pictures of themselves with their phones (but do not sent them or show them around) have to register as they have to in the US if going by the letter of the law?

[Pannonian]

So... is this public pillory part of the first punishment, or is this the second punishment?

While i'm all for shielding potential victims, why should someone who served his time and paid for his crime be on an official outcast list, as long as he is not a danger to society (in which case i would argue for more drastic measures than a list...)

[NED funded]

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive women and their creepy stalker brethren. Men shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

Wot??!! Like yeah, there are cases of women abusing their partners but its mostly men doing it, seems like a weird deflection tbh.

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I mean yeah, its a nice idea and all because domestic abusers are POS, but I also believe that we should rehabilitate and this doesn't seem to help that much. IDK I'm torneed.

[Socialhealer]

nope, too biased too sexist.

even though it's near 50-50 for men and women as domestic abusers the list will end up like 98% men and 2% women, because we couldn't do that to those poor violent abusive women.

[Kathandira]

Wot??!! Like yeah, there are cases of women abusing their partners but its mostly men doing it, seems like a weird deflection tbh.

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I mean yeah, its a nice idea and all because domestic abusers are POS, but I also believe that we should rehabilitate and this doesn't seem to help that much. IDK I'm torneed.

Rehabilitation would likely require therapy, which can get pricey. Not sure how that would get handled.

[VooDsXo]

It's about damn time that we create a new registry for all these abusive men and their creepy stalker brethren. Women shouldn't have to live near these abusive pricks or crazed stalkers.

Who said anything about men? It literally says "Domestic abusers" of which there is more fucking women abusing men on the regular without incident report...

[Forgettable]

Wot??!! Like yeah, there are cases of women abusing their partners but its mostly men doing it, seems like a weird deflection tbh.

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I mean yeah, its a nice idea and all because domestic abusers are POS, but I also believe that we should rehabilitate and this doesn't seem to help that much. IDK I'm torneed.

It's not a deflection. It's pointing out that both men and women do it.

[nymphetsss]

I say no. The law is too vague and favors women too much when it comes to domestic abuse.

My neighbor and his wife were fighting she was throwing things at him punching him in the face, he picked her up (she bit him half a dozen times for his trouble) and tossed her on the lawn and locked the door. She then smashed every window she could get to. He had to get his brow stitched and was bleeding hard from a couple of the bites. guess who the police arrested?

anecdotal but that's why i couldnt support it

[zenkai]

You can already find this out with a criminal background check.

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I say no. The law is too vague and favors women too much when it comes to domestic abuse.

That's the fucking truth, they also usually abuse you mentally.

[Doctor Amadeus]

If it's based on a conviction of course this is a great idea. I think beating kids should be on a list also, and any other violent offenses.

[Kathandira]

For those concerned with the unfair rulings against men who have been abused. You just need to beat women at their own game. Get evidence via saved texts, hidden cameras, voice recordings. Seek a therapist and allow them to be a witness to speak on your behalf. 'He said, She said' cases are hard to judge without evidence. Collect some, and report it. Just like women who are abused are told not to wait, and to show evidence, the same applies to men.

Also, drop the idea that since you are a man, you can't report these sorts of things. It is ok to be vulnerable, and it is ok to admit when you are in danger.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Statistically woman make up a larger percentage of domestic abusers (statistically shown that they hit their partner more across almost all conducted studies on the subject) and men a larger % of domestic abuse victims but because its never litigated that way, its obviously biased, and flawed and all punishment for such cases should be immediately halted untill equality and justice for men is brought to the table as an option. You know, when ever you women are done having your 7,000 year turn.

7,000 year turn? Women haven’t been getting equal rights for any where near 7,000 years men have had all the power till fairly recently.

[Sky High]

I'm totally in favor of that, also make it so they can't legally buy a gun while we're at it.