Twinks, are they still a thing?

[Hashtronaut]

Pretty much what the title says.
Do people still twink? At what level? Is there a community?

Was thinking it could be fun to just lock a character at 70 and play the game at that level.
Getting quite bored with BfA.

[Kyphael]

Yes, I still have them, mostly because I already have 1 of every class, and I had a bunch of lowbies I ended up leveling to 70 and 80 when bored but don't see a point of getting them to max because who needs 3 120 paladins and two DK's? I hardly play them though but I do on occasion tag along with friends when they do old raids.

[Druitz]

Yes, I still have them, mostly because I already have 1 of every class, and I had a bunch of lowbies I ended up leveling to 70 and 80 when bored but don't see a point of getting them to max because who needs 3 120 paladins and two DK's? I hardly play them though but I do on occasion tag along with friends when they do old raids.

yes, ppl need 3 or even 4 paladins at max level

[f4ncybear]

You will probably answers here.

https://xpoff.com//

[Zaktar]

Pretty much what the title says.
Do people still twink? At what level? Is there a community?

Was thinking it could be fun to just lock a character at 70 and play the game at that level.
Getting quite bored with BfA.

Oh they definitely are, the gorgeous little things.

[Coolascancer]

I participated in project 80 before BFA came out (play and raid on retail locked at level 80) and it was quite a lot of fun, obviously you need a number of people doing it with you to make it viable. Some fights in ulduar were very very hard without 20+ people (ulduar flexes now) This was before the latest squish so who knows how something like that would work now. This mostly worked because streamers advocated it and hardcored it for 2-4 weeks bringing with them the masses, i found a group of people that continued to raid for a few months until it got closer to BfA time

[Kyphael]

yes, ppl need 3 or even 4 paladins at max level

[Hashtronaut]

You will probably answers here.

https://xpoff.com//

Thanks I’ll check it out.

Have the feeling it would just be better to do this on a main pop server like tich.
Still going to give it a try and start working on my toon.

Are old 70 raids flexed now also? Fuck I’ll even try to put a raid together.

[Lilly32]

whats even defined as a twink anymore? i mean literally everyone has full looms these days.

[Druitz]

Remember if you can't understand something it doesn't automatically mean that it have no sense

[Kokolums]

I used to be heavily involved back in the day. When they created a separate BG division for xpoff players, it wiped out my twink guild and drove off a lot of players. We were basically under attack. I swore to never twink again, not that I don't want to, but I assume even if the twinking community was rebuilt, Blizzard would just attack and destroy it again.

[Orby]

Now you can basically stop your experience gains from that NPC in Stormwind/Orgrimmar the rise in twinks should be on Vanilla/TBC levels of twinkage :P

[Deleted]

I used to be heavily involved back in the day. When they created a separate BG division for xpoff players, it wiped out my twink guild and drove off a lot of players. We were basically under attack. I swore to never twink again, not that I don't want to, but I assume even if the twinking community was rebuilt, Blizzard would just attack and destroy it again.

You mean when they made a separate bracket for twinks to fight each other on a more level playing field you quit when you couldn't stomp noobs anymore?

[Deleted]

I used to be heavily involved back in the day. When they created a separate BG division for xpoff players, it wiped out my twink guild and drove off a lot of players. We were basically under attack. I swore to never twink again, not that I don't want to, but I assume even if the twinking community was rebuilt, Blizzard would just attack and destroy it again.

lol, good, so their patching worked as planned
well done blizz! show those exploiters that they are playing the wrong game

you didn't "twink", kiddo, you made yourself an alt to equip him and kill players who tried to have fun during their normal level experience.
you screwed it, blizz blew it for you.

seems totaly fair.

[Debased]

lol, good, so their patching worked as planned
well done blizz! show those exploiters that they are playing the wrong game

you didn't "twink", kiddo, you made yourself an alt to equip him and kill players who tried to have fun during their normal level experience.
you screwed it, blizz blew it for you.

seems totaly fair.

This. Only assholes twinked (what a fucking weird term to use). I can't say these days but back in the day it made BGs a shit experience for casual leveling and "fun".

[Themanintobuildafire]

This. Only assholes twinked (what a fucking weird term to use). I can't say these days but back in the day it made BGs a shit experience for casual leveling and "fun".

Not sure how far "back in the day" is for you.

I had a 19 twink in BC that was able to pretty much take down 10 people in WSG if they didn't have their own twinks. Yeah you could call that being a dick, but those other 19s were just leveling through. That was before cross server shit too, so when we didn't have our twink versus twink matches and I was bored, I'd go clear out some WSG. The amount of work one had to put into making such a twink you have no idea. We couldn't xpoff so you had to be crazy careful not to go over and ding from some type of xp. It took A LOT of work. Haters that hate that, well, too bad. Full raid geared 60s or 70s in BC did a pretty good job of dominating a BG too...they put in hard work, not sure why under level cap can't do the same and have the same fun.

These days twinks can still be good but nothing like before where 1 could dominate. Back in Cata, the 70s bracket was pretty good. You couldn't xp off though as no games would happen, so just leveling up, xp off, get all the best gear, then go nuts xp on. Was fun as hell. Prot pally was broken. From 70-75 1 shield throw could kill anyone...anyone, twink or non twink.

In BFA, there is scaling. 110s is a good twinking bracket with a lot of games and twinks aren't super crazy powerful like in the old days. They have an edge, yes, but someone coming in there with 170ish iLVL vs 250+ shouldn't be equal. Want equal, make pvp gear.

bfa world pvp is also fun. 110s have a hard time crushing 120s, but 115-119 can do it due to scaling.

It isn't assholes that twink. It is people bored with the same old farming gear treadmill and who want to be done farming once they have their gear and want to pvp/pve and have fun.

[Ermelloth]

Twinks are relevant and very cool at the moment. And it's great that now xp-off chars aren't locked away in separate BGs anymore.

The thing is, it is a LOT easier to ensemble a right twink in almost any of the existing brackets and enjoy PvE or PvP with it right on, than maintain a max level alt.

Today for many players it's main + twinks rather than main + max level alts (unless you're a hardcore PvE players needing tanks / healers for the guild or you just level up your alts for profession needs).

Since Legion, the game became EXTREMELY alt-unfriendly. I have only one main and it won't change, and most of people I know do the same, since Azerite / reps / etc. takes too much time to grind, it's repetitive and it's boring. Not to mention you need to work hard to get a decent enough item level to matter in dungeons and PvP instances.

However, with twinks it usually takes about a week or two to get him to a desired level, get BiS gear, enchants, etc. and start having fun w/o having to worry about anything, unless it's another stat or level squish, coming with a new expansion.

Finally, since HONOR LEVELS are BoA since BFA, you can gain Honor playing your twink instead of playing main, which can be less strong due to gear / ilvl / class balance at 120.

P.S. Those who call us retards and assholes, ruining leveling players' experience... I'd say - it's not THAT hard and costly to make a twink yourselves. Do it as well, why not, it's accessible for everyone out there.

P.P.S. My little 101 Ret monster: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...t-dawn/Darlana

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P.S. Reanimating twinks is a great and a very smart move by Blizzard. This will keep a LOT of subs active, cause many people twink. More than you can even think of.

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You mean when they made a separate bracket for twinks to fight each other on a more level playing field you quit when you couldn't stomp noobs anymore?

People quit because of huge BG queues. You forget one thing: there is a separate bracket for each few XP levels: 10-19, 20-29 and so on. And while there are quite a lot of twinks overall, they are, first of all, separated between 7-8 different brackets, and, second, the overall number of existing and active twink chars for every bracket was still WAY WAY less than enough to maintain a big enough player pool for having at least a 15-20 min. steady bg queue (except perhaps 70-79 and 10-19 ones).

That's the reason people abandoned them, plus the fact looms and overbuffed dungeon completion XP in MoP and beyond made people to almost stop leveling outside dungeons (or barely doing 7-10 quests before their XP level becomes higher than zone objectives anyway). So people started to sit in cities and Q, what killed world and outdoor PvP - another aspect of twinking. Cross realm / sharding tech murdered the outdoor aspect and lessened a chance to meet another player even more.

Remember pre-Cata STV? Hours of wpvp and ganking... it was fun. Nowadays I seldom see any players there.

Scaling zones and making dungeon / dungeon completion XP rewards smaller may also reintroduce world pvp twinking.

[Fullgore]

Twinks are relevant and very cool at the moment. And it's great that now xp-off chars aren't locked away in separate BGs anymore.

The thing is, it is a LOT easier to ensemble a right twink in almost any of the existing brackets and enjoy PvE or PvP with it right on, than maintain a max level alt.

Today for many players it's main + twinks rather than main + max level alts (unless you're a hardcore PvE players needing tanks / healers for the guild or you just level up your alts for profession needs).

Since Legion, the game became EXTREMELY alt-unfriendly. I have only one main and it won't change, and most of people I know do the same, since Azerite / reps / etc. takes too much time to grind, it's repetitive and it's boring. Not to mention you need to work hard to get a decent enough item level to matter in dungeons and PvP instances.

However, with twinks it usually takes about a week or two to get him to a desired level, get BiS gear, enchants, etc. and start having fun w/o having to worry about anything, unless it's another stat or level squish, coming with a new expansion.

Finally, since HONOR LEVELS are BoA since BFA, you can gain Honor playing your twink instead of playing main, which can be less strong due to gear / ilvl / class balance at 120.

P.S. Those who call us retards and assholes, ruining leveling players' experience... I'd say - it's not THAT hard and costly to make a twink yourselves. Do it as well, why not, it's accessible for everyone out there.

P.P.S. My little 101 Ret monster: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...t-dawn/Darlana

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P.S. Reanimating twinks is a great and a very smart move by Blizzard. This will keep a LOT of subs active, cause many people twink. More than you can even think of.

Is 101 a fun bracket? Does The 100-109 bracket scale different for a 101 than a 105? Or how does it work?

[Justpassing]

Instead of MMO-C you should probably try grindr.

[Teostra]

Im actually doing a TCB and Wrath challenge where i make the game as close as i can to that era and play it completely through. im started with BC, then i'll move on and stop at wrath. I turned off quest help for both map main and mini map (i have to read the quests, but i did them back at current content so i remember most of the quests already) I cant use looms. i cant use mounts untill im the right level for them (no flying) I cant dungeon spam (i only go to specific dungeons after i either; A, have a quest to go to the dungeon. or B, beat the zone they are associated with, and are the appropriate level) also no Mog. since mog didnt exist back then. Im a hunter, but im also cutting on survival since it wasnt back then either. so im playing BM..

I lol when my friends say im intentionally making it harder. I played on a vanilla server for 4 years, i then hop on wow after the leveling buff and i have no looms. i still pull 5+ enemies and destroy them.