Why can't the father choose not to pay the child support if he wants abortion?

[Deleted]

If a woman can choose (not) to abort without father's consent, why can't father choose not to pay child support if he wants her to do an abortion but she refuses? Either that or he should be able to stop the abortion but take full responsibility for the child once it's born.

Wouldn't that make the playing field equal?

[daytonbrown]

If you don't want to pay for a child, don't stick it in without a condom.

[Jonnusthegreat]

It should be a thing, but it's not. You are responsible for an action, but have no choice in the matter of abortion.

[Rendark]

Because woman have more rights then men.

[Darkeon]

Because we live in a patriarchy that, for some reason, benefits the women.

[Dawnseven]

Because life isn't fair. Seriously.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

Mostly because it would just hurt the child, it's called child support- not "woman I slept with-support".

If you have sex you run the risk of having a child, contraception doesn't always work. Condoms are like 93% effective, P-pills are in some studies only 90% effective because women forget to take them when they should.

If you're not prepared for the (unwanted) consequences then don't have vaginal intercourse, it's as simple as that...

[Ehrenpanzer]

If a woman can choose (not) to abort without father's consent, why can't father choose not to pay child support if he wants her to do an abortion but she refuses? Either that or he should be able to stop the abortion but take full responsibility for the child once it's born.

Wouldn't that make the playing field equal?

Because feminists want equality....except when it doesnt benefit them

[Eggroll]

Don't have unprotected sex if you don't want to be a father. Period.

[Naked Snake]

If a woman can choose (not) to abort without father's consent, why can't father choose not to pay child support if he wants her to do an abortion but she refuses? Either that or he should be able to stop the abortion but take full responsibility for the child once it's born.

Wouldn't that make the playing field equal?

Then most fathers would choose to not pay and a lot of mothers might be forced to get an abortion even though they want to keep the child. And in those cases where they decide to keep the child, the taxpayer will have to take care of it. A mother will have a hard time working while at the same time raising the child, so she will need some kind of support.

It would be way too easy for men to just impregnate tons of women and to then fuck off without taking responsibility.

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Don't have unprotected sex if you don't want to be a father. Period.

Condoms don't work all the time.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Sex makes babies, if you aren't willing to risk the possibility of someone carrying your kid, don't do a sex on them.

Also because you not wanting them to exist doesn't stop them existing and being responsible for their existence.

[s_bushido]

Because men don't get to tell women what to do with their bodies. Obviously.

Forcing a woman to terminate a pregnancy she wants because the father refuses to help support the child isn't much different than forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy she doesn't want.

I do find it amusing that the people who have the most problem with this are the very same people who tell the worthless sluts to keep their legs closed if they don't want to get pregnant. But I'm sure there's nothing sexist at all about absolving men of any responsibility while simultaneously condemning the women. Nope, nothing at all.

[Deleted]

If a woman can choose (not) to abort without father's consent, why can't father choose not to pay child support if he wants her to do an abortion but she refuses? Either that or he should be able to stop the abortion but take full responsibility for the child once it's born.

Wouldn't that make the playing field equal?

Did you even read what you wrote? This is a 0/10 troll thread but i'll humour you.

If the "father" was that concerned about fatherhood, there is contraception, it's not difficult. Why would/should a woman need consent for something to do with their body. It is the woman that carries the child for 9 months, she should have the only say in whether she goes through that or not, otherwise it is technically a method of torture, going through pain and discomfort, forcably and against their will.

If the "father" didn't want to pay child support, they should have used protection.

Without a full DNA test, the father of that baby could be anyone, asking persmission from the claimed "father" is legally invalid as it is unproven who the father is. In that case, a man could abort or not abort the child of another man.

Let's say all that happens, and he takes full responsibility of the child once it's born. What happens when the child is older and goes looking for the mother, or if something happened to the father, legally that child would be returned to the woman who was not in a position to have that child at that time. She'd then have to explain what happened, causing unecassary stress and pain to everyone, all because what, a man wanted to control a woman?

People should be free to make their own choices without other people getting involved, what does it matter to you if a woman has an abortion? Is she doing you any harm? Are you that self important that you think you should be able to dictate the lives of others?

I'm neither pro or anti abortion, I belive in choice. I don't honestly agree with abortion, but that's my own opinion and I'm certainly not rude enough to try and FORCE my views onto other people I have nothing to do with. In some cases an abortion is the only way, and some women are impregnated against their will, it's not as clear cut as you make it out to be, this whole pro-life thing is beyond moronic, they should keep their opinions to themselves, especially when the actions of others have literally zero effect on them or their lives.

[Dhrizzle]

Because woman have more rights then men.

Men have the same right to abort a child growing within their body.

OT: fathers have to pay child support because their decision to have sex lead to the birth of the child, without their genetic contribution the child would not exist.

If you want to complain about the fact that women are the ones who get pregnant and therefore have the option to abort the pregnancy then you need to pray to God, cry to nature or scream at the universe because that is who/what you have to blame for life being unfair.

[triplesdsu]

Because both parents were involved in creating it, thus they share responsibilities in supporting it. Kids are expensive and if the woman cant support it on their own, it shouldn't fall on the state (government) to help out. Should have been responsible if you didn't want to be potentially stuck with the bill. I pay support every month, and I wont lie, its kinda depressing to think what i could do with that extra money every month but they're my kids and my responsibility. Choices have consequences. This happens to be one of sex.

[MechaCThun]

"Wrap it up in latex or else she'll get your paychecks"

[Puxycat]

Because men don't get to tell women what to do with their bodies. Obviously.

Forcing a woman to terminate a pregnancy she wants because the father refuses to help support the child isn't much different than forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy she doesn't want.

I do find it amusing that the people who have the most problem with this are the very same people who tell the worthless sluts to keep their legs closed if they don't want to get pregnant. But I'm sure there's nothing sexist at all about absolving men of any responsibility while simultaneously condemning the women. Nope, nothing at all.

Woman can keep the baby if she likes but why is man forced to pay? She wanted the kid? She had it. Goodluck with it. No one is forced. Beautiful life.

[Dakhath]

I think men should be required to pay, but as something to balance out them not having an option to opt out, the woman receiving the money should be required to show some sort of proof where the money goes. I'm sure everyone has seen memes of some chick posting about her several hundred dollar outfit that child support money bought. It's all funny when you see it like that, but I've had old friends of mine have to deal with it in reality and it's considerably less amusing for them.

[PosPosPos]

In an ideal world, the mother chooses whether to abort, and the father chooses whether to support the child in the case of the mother choosing to not abort against the wishes of the father.

And in that same ideal world, all families can function well with just a single breadwinner.

Unfortunately, it's not an ideal world, so the father has to support the child, because regardless of how idiotic or gold-digging the mum is, the child is still innocent.

[Deleted]

Don't have unprotected sex if you don't want to be a father. Period.

Then women shouldn't be allowed to abort, which is stupid.