Do you think there'll be abundance of tanks?

[Lochton]

no one waits unfortunately, I miss the 3 sunder before dps mentality that people had but that was just to accommodate bad tanks not actually necessary you pretty much do the same as it was in TBC>WOTLK, Just give the tank a second breather and then go ham or kill non elites first, having tanked a lot of classic content i've never met a group that would wait you just had to pick up the pace yourself and pool rage, gear helps too.

also to note a lot of warrior post 1.6 or 1.5 were not prot spec because it had no shield slam and threat modifier was not as good, I think that may of contributed to that mentality which carried on for the remainder of classic.

I was prot on my warrior the whole way. Hehe.

[Thunderball]

With people knowing that Warr is the only choice for tank etc. I think there will not be THAT of an issue as it was in the past, but still as always there will be some shortage.

It's not. It's the only choice for a competitive raiding guild. Druids are fine for everything else.

EDIT: You can even tank most dungeons as a Resto PvP specced Druid, if you have proper gear.

[babyback]

What do you think will be the hardest to find; tank or healer?

My experience were that it was WAAY harder to find tanks but interested in hearing other peoples experiences.

Come leveling you can be specced as a dps warrior and still tank if you have a shield and a 1h. The same goes for healers.

Tanks and or healers will be everywhere. You just have to find one willing to do it.

[Deleted]

I started wow in BC when sunder was still around and I am not found of the idea of tab targeting sunder again, hell no. So I'll play hunter and live the Misdirection dream <3

MD is a BC ability, sorry.

[Shibito]

Tanks are in high demand for 5mans, but not for raids (since you really only need 3 "main" tanks in a raid)

Tons of warriors, but most of them are DPS.

Cause dps warrior is fun, tho i lvl a warrior i tank dungeons and if other warriors ask me to tank i tell them to tank themselves even if they reply i am dps then i reply so am i!

[Thunderball]

Cause dps warrior is fun, tho i lvl a warrior i tank dungeons and if other warriors ask me to tank i tell them to tank themselves even if they reply i am dps then i reply so am i!

Tanking in dps gear is more fun, believe me.

[Shibito]

Tanking in dps gear is more fun, believe me.

Yea but the point was the other warrior didnt want to tank he expected another warrior to do the job for him.

[Thunderball]

Yea but the point was the other warrior didnt want to tank he expected another warrior to do the job for him.

Tanks usually have a say in what happens in the group, so just request the guy to be removed.

[Nnyco]

no, there will be never an abundance of tanks in wow, no matter which version

[Storfan]

I'm tank "in soul". I've tanked majority of my WoW career, I started to play in very late BC and started to raid in WotLK. And I always found that it's hard to find spot as a tank. I'm not talking about PuG dungeons, of course, but about having a raid spot as a main spec tank. In retail there are 20 players in a raid (more like 25-30 with benched people) and 2 tanks are needed (tanks are usually stable enough so no replacement is needed for them). With classic there are 40 players in a raid and, AFAIK, only 2 tanks are needed for majority of fights. So do you think that it would be incredibly hard to get that spot? How was it back then? How is it on private servers (not sure if they are comparable, never played there).

I don't care about difficulty of leveling up or farming, that's not a concern for me. I can level hunter alt for farming if it's absolutely necessary or buy gold, whatever.

I played in vanilla and I've played on most of the popular vanilla private servers since 2012 and lack of tanks was almost always a problem. I've myself been the MT of BWL clearing guilds as well as OT and fury for AQ/Naxx clearing guilds and I find that a great portion of fury warriors are either unwilling, or downright refuse to tank, especially at lower raid tiers. Also, 2 will not be enough for most fights in 40man raiding.


Depending on the state of your guilds progress, raid composition, tactics used and gear it'll look something like this:

MC:
Lucifron: 3 tanks
Magmadar: 1 tank
Gehennas: 3 tank
Garr: 1-7 tanks
Geddon: 1 tank
Shazzrah: 3-5 tanks
Sulfuron Harbinger: 4-5 tanks
Golemagg the Incinerator: 2-3 tanks
Majordomo Executus: 4-5 tanks
Ragnaros: 2-3 tanks

BWL:
Razorgore the Untamed: 4-5 tanks
Vaelastrasz the Corrupt: 1-4 tanks
Broodlord Lashlayer: 2-3 tanks
Firemaw: 3-4 tanks
Ebonroc: 3-4 tanks
Flamegor: 3-4 tanks
Chromaggus: 2 tanks
Nefarian: 4 tanks

AQ40:
The Prophet Skeram: 4-6 tanks
Three Bugs: 4-6 tanks
Battleguard Sartura: 4-6 tanks
Fankriss the Unyielding: 3-5 tanks
Viscidus: 1 tank
Princess Huhuran: 1 tank
Twin Emperors: 3-4 tanks
Ouro: 3 tanks
C'Thun: 3 tanks

Naxx:
Patchwerk: 4 tanks
Grobbulus: 2 tanks
Gluth: 2-3 tanks
Thaddius: 2 tanks
Noth the Plaguebringer: 4-5 tanks
Heigan the Unclean: 1 tank
Loatheb: 1 tank
Anub'Rekhan: 3 tanks
Grand Widow Faerlina: 3-4 tanks
Maexxna: 1 tank
Instructor Razuvious: 3-4 tanks
Gothik the Harvester: 4-6 tanks
The Four Horsemen: 6-8 tanks (6 is absolute minimum to actually do it, 8 is recommended)
Sapphiron: 1 tank
Kel'Thuzad: 3-5 tanks

Please note that I use the term "tank" pretty losely as most of the tank duties above can be performed by fury warriors in tank gear, or sometimes even with just a shield slapped on.

[Kralljin]

At first, probably.

Because some people will try to become the "Tank guy" and even level as Prot, some might try Prot Pally.

However on the long run, i think you'll encounter the usual tank drought along with a abudance of Dps Warriors unwilling to tank under any circumstance.

[Roxyfoxy]

Getting a raidspot as a fulltime tank is hard, that spot is usually filled by the creators of a guild, and some trusted friends. Cause a tank suddently leaving can be devestating to a guild.

A regular raid setup usually contains 3 prot warriors and 5-6 dps warriors. And all of the dps warriors will be required to tank at some point. So if you create a warrior and intend to raid, get ready to tank or you will be lowest priority for a raidspot, cause you are useless in organized raiding, and a mage, warlock or a usefull dps warrior will take your spot once the raidgroup are stable enough to drop you.

[Spookysheep]

You a betting man?

I will take that bet. BfA has more players than the entirety of vanilla and all these people who live in a dream world thinking they know about vanilla because they play on a private server now are in for a huge shock. Classic in no way will match retail. There is an entire generation of instant gratification players that will not last a week on classic when they find out it is not like a private server.

[Drusin]

MD is a BC ability, sorry.

Rip fuck me then, guess I'll just enjoy the time I get to afk every single pull as the tank gets threat lol

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The dream of using an ability that didn't exist for another 3 expansions?

another 3?

Vanilla
BC(1)
Wrath(2)
Cata(3)

MD existed before cata, but it was already pointed out to me, I'll just alt tab every pull while tank gets threat ggez

[RobertMugabe]

yes

https://s.nimbusweb.me/share/2193217...1ky0qo2zrz203y

But most of those warriors are fury.

You only need to be prot for raids, and can tank as arms/fury with very little issue, however lots of warriors refuse to tank for whatever reason.

As always: private server statistics won't be representative on how's it actually gonna be on retail. Not only does this specific private server use 1.12 stats mainly, but also a lot of core mechanics are just backported from TBC and everything from aura stacking, auto attacks and even glancing Blows are straight up bugged.

[Dergiab]

Rip fuck me then, guess I'll just enjoy the time I get to afk every single pull as the tank gets threat lol

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another 3?

Vanilla
BC(1)
Wrath(2)
Cata(3)

MD existed before cata, but it was already pointed out to me, I'll just alt tab every pull while tank gets threat ggez

That is the essence of Vanilla. The "GOGOGO" mentality and ADHDPS has no place there.

[Heathy]

the first real test is probably vael, you need like 5 ppl that can tank him as he'll kill a tank every 30 seconds. that is the first real test imo, gearing everyone up to down him, but your dps warriors will need to sponge tank gear so they aren't two shotted. I think we had 3 or 4 dps warriors, they all had to tank for vael. which means they all need some level of tank gear.

I think ppl will take what they learned the first time and guilds that try to reach naxx will most likely have warrior alts that they'll gear up for 4h. I don't think it would be as big of an issue as it was when your kinda just faced with a fight that requires 8 tanks and you weren't prepared for it.

[Dergiab]

Come leveling you can be specced as a dps warrior and still tank if you have a shield and a 1h. The same goes for healers.

Tanks and or healers will be everywhere. You just have to find one willing to do it.

IME more people are willing to heal than tank.

On the other hand, pre-40 a shaman, rogue and even a pet can tank.

[MardestyGSOG]

Well since it’s vanilla you’re bound to find yourself a spot, you’ll almost instantly find yourself in UBRS/LBRS/scholo/mara/ST/BRD for all the pre-bis and early attunement stuff, if you don’t have a raid spot, then you being online and available will kickstart ZG pugs, and if you’re a quality tank you will inevitably get a raid spot eventually.

And not only that, if you roll warrior at launch and everyone knows you’re tanking at 60, you’ll have a raid spot come 60. The only way the above sentence is even relevant is if you reach 60 late and behind the realm curve.

[Deleted]

Tanks didn't deal that much damage compared to today. They were painfully slow.
I think a lot of people wont spend gold to change their talent tree and just stick with dps and dont tank.