Blizzard should open DH to Void Elves and Nightborne ASAP

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They can't.

Allied races start at level 20... Demon Hunters at 100.

And the Demon Hunters at level 100 are the Illidari in Outland, where you can't find void elves or nightbourne.

So basically, they would have to construct a whole new starting zone for those demon hunters.

It's the same for Death Knights. Blizzard will eventually have to change the starting experiences of those 2 classes if they want to inclure more races to them, and that is a lot of work.

Of course they could also just allow you to race change to it, but they don't seem to want that.

They really don't. You are over complicating things.

They just need to put a trainer on the allied race zone and have them start at 60/100. It's that simple. They are just new recruits and if you want an allied race, you skip the initial scenario. Problem solved. Easiest solution.

If they want to be bothered they can have them start at 20 instead, but would require reviewing their leveling experience in terms of skill unlocks.

[keyboardshinobi]

Yes, lucky strikes happen. Even the strongest individuals can be killed in their sleep or by exercising too much hubris.

To have power, yes. Common sense and knowledge of the ritual. It mentions no posession. DH do not become possessed otherwise they would be controlled by demons yo buddy yo.

Sure, they may dislike it but it doesn't mean they will appear before you as proved by countless demons. Of course, all those scarlets crusaders throwing light all around him and he was not in a presence of great light huehuehuehue

Only if it is contrary. Nothing contrary here. Both is mentioned there, infiltration, manipulation and fighting. Also new lore showed them as commanders so lolelul. LOLELULOL not in W universe. Demons wouldn't listen to someone eaker than them. So much for your obvious. Nathrezim are known for their great spell power so lolelul again.

Sure, by demon hunters now that they are free and can recruit new souls.

Muh seat of power muh seat. We have thousands worlds but muh seat of power. Ridiculous. Of course they will reorganize on a different planet. No brainer there muh boyo yo. Tichondrius and possibly Archimonde are alive so nope, most powerful dick hand of Sargeras is right there.

They don't need to fight titans, only weaken prison enough for Sargeras to escape.

I'm sure you don't know. It can take even less if Sargeras captures more than one titan. And there are millions of demons out there so all they need is portal boy and voila.

How? Because planet is a planet, you can build your operations on it. Not every planet has a soul in it. checkmate atheist.

When he escapes.

I'm sure he did. Unlike DK DH were loyal followers of Illidan, not slaves to his will. We are recruiting in our class hall illidari adepts so here we have new blood taa-dammm.

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They might or they will erase rep gate.

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of cours eyou are not my dear shaman be warlocks and fel be arcane tee heee

If shaman arnt warlocks, then Void Elfs cant be Demon Hunters. You classify that Shamans have nothing to do with Warlocks but beings of the Void Can become beings of Fel. You are wrong, deal with it.

[Fetus Rex]

If shaman arnt warlocks, then Void Elfs cant be Demon Hunters. You classify that Shamans have nothing to do with Warlocks but beings of the Void Can become beings of Fel. You are wrong, deal with it.

erherhe erhe erhe shamans are warlocks erhe erhe erhe erhe. shamans can become warlocks but they have nothing todo with them.

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erherhe erhe erhe shamans are warlocks erhe erhe erhe erhe. shamans can become warlocks but they have nothing todo with them.

Except the first Warlocks were not Erodar but Orc Shamans. The Erodar were corrupted Dranie, they were turned into demons they did not control them via being warlocks.

Also if we are doing stupid "noises" to insult each other here is you "WHAAA I CANT BE EDGY VOIDEWF DEMONHUNAR WHAHAHAHAHA BLIZZ YOU NO FAIR WHAHAHAHA"

[Lightforged]

They might or they will erase rep gate.

Or they could just give DH to Orcs and Draenei, which make more sense than Void Elves and Nightborne. The starting quest line of the DH does not need to be altered for Orcs and Draenei because both were around when the Illidari story begins.

[Fetus Rex]

Or they could just give DH to Orcs and Draenei, which make more sense than Void Elves and Nightborne. The starting quest line of the DH does not need to be altered for Orcs and Draenei because both were around when the Illidari story begins.

They could give to all of them. Well, Elves make more sense than orcs and draenei. It needs to be altered. Add all kinds of different races of dh, token voice acting.

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Except the first Warlocks were not Erodar but Orc Shamans. The Erodar were corrupted Dranie, they were turned into demons they did not control them via being warlocks.

Also if we are doing stupid "noises" to insult each other here is you "WHAAA I CANT BE EDGY VOIDEWF DEMONHUNAR WHAHAHAHAHA BLIZZ YOU NO FAIR WHAHAHAHA"

Nope. the first warlocks were Eredar if we consider mortakls. Lelele lollo huehuehue Eredar were original species from which Draenei came.

[keyboardshinobi]

They could give to all of them. Well, Elves make more sense than orcs and draenei. It needs to be altered. Add all kinds of different races of dh, token voice acting.

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Nope. the first warlocks were Eredar if we consider mortakls. Lelele lollo huehuehue Eredar were original species from which Draenei came.

Well I disagree, but w.e no matter how much you argue you don't get what you want. No void Elf DH because no matter how much you look at it, it doesn't make sense and can't happen.

[Lightforged]

They could give to all of them. Well, Elves make more sense than orcs and draenei. It needs to be altered. Add all kinds of different races of dh, token voice acting.

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Nope. the first warlocks were Eredar if we consider mortakls. Lelele lollo huehuehue Eredar were original species from which Draenei came.

Nightborne were locked behind their shield and Void Elves did not exist around the time of TBC.

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Well I disagree, but w.e no matter how much you argue you don't get what you want. No void Elf DH because no matter how much you look at it, it doesn't make sense and can't happen.

Nothing to disagree. Those are facts. It makes perfect sense. Bloody fucking Xavius while being a demon fucking satyr was also transformed by Void juju into rat king. both can exist in one body

Nightborne were locked behind their shield and Void Elves did not exist around the time of TBC.

new generation. short introduction cinematic akin to allied races bla bla bla 30sec and here we are

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Nothing to disagree. Those are facts. It makes perfect sense. Bloody fucking Xavius while being a demon fucking satyr was also transformed by Void juju into rat king. both can exist in one body

new generation. short introduction cinematic akin to allied races bla bla bla 30sec and here we are

No, because they are void. Also the Legion was defeated, no need for new demon hunters.

[Playintrafic]

Nightborne were locked behind their shield and Void Elves did not exist around the time of TBC.

Yeah and?

There are eredar Demon Hunters on Argus, they aren't illidari, they use the exact same spells.

[Fetus Rex]

No, because they are void. Also the Legion was defeated, no need for new demon hunters.

It doesn't matter whether they are void or not. Both void and fel are of chaos. Legion is not defeated, not to mention millions of demons still roam the universe. There always will be a need for them.

[keyboardshinobi]

It doesn't matter whether they are void or not. Both void and fel are of chaos. Legion is not defeated, not to mention millions of demons still roam the universe. There always will be a need for them.

Nope no need, the demons are no longer infinite nor organized thus the legion is no longer a real threat and never will be again, the void and fel exist in different realms of creation, and the void elf wouldn't survive it Period. Also none of the Nightborne would bother cuz, the demons weren't successful in obliterating their home, meaning the need of sacrifice for vengeance isnt there so none would do it. Also if the demons were a true threat still the existing Demon Hunters would not have rejoined their peoples, they would have set out to destroy what remains of the broken legion, but they didn't cuz they arnt a threat. So no, No Void Elf or NB Demon Hunters.

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Nope no need, the demons are no longer infinite nor organized thus the legion is no longer a real threat and never will be again, the void and fel exist in different realms of creation, and the void elf wouldn't survive it Period. Also none of the Nightborne would bother cuz, the demons weren't successful in obliterating their home, meaning the need of sacrifice for vengeance isnt there so none would do it. Also if the demons were a true threat still the existing Demon Hunters would not have rejoined their peoples, they would have set out to destroy what remains of the broken legion, but they didn't cuz they arnt a threat. So no, No Void Elf or NB Demon Hunters.

They still are 'infinite'. And they still are organized. Individual and groups of demons will be enough to fuck over countryside. Fel happened because of light and void clash and it represents more void than light thus its fucking chaotic nature. Of course they would survive it. The same can be said about any DH whose people experienced death at demons hands. Vengeance is not everything, duty too matters, and power. We don't know what happened with Illidari after the Legion. Maybe their ship is flying around bombarding demons.

[keyboardshinobi]

They still are 'infinite'. And they still are organized. Individual and groups of demons will be enough to fuck over countryside. Fel happened because of light and void clash and it represents more void than light thus its fucking chaotic nature. Of course they would survive it. The same can be said about any DH whose people experienced death at demons hands. Vengeance is not everything, duty too matters, and power. We don't know what happened with Illidari after the Legion. Maybe their ship is flying around bombarding demons.

No they arn't and no they arn't. And plenty of people can kill demons, without sacrificing their sight and humanities, the reason illidan did it and the illidari who followed him was to use it to attack legion worlds. No need to do that anymore, their leader is gone and we decimated all of his generals, they have no structure and will no longer be able to maintain a organized army. The Illidari like ebon blade disbanded and returned to their factions. Stop trying to pass your fan fic theory off as canon. The legion is over, deal with it.

Oh also you pointing out that fel is the created via the light and void clashing meaning even more Void elfs could not take it in, as it is part light and it would kill them, boom mic drop.

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Not being constructive here, but no. I just want to increase my post account for a cool new title. Look at me I has posted many.

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No they arn't and no they arn't. And plenty of people can kill demons, without sacrificing their sight and humanities, the reason illidan did it and the illidari who followed him was to use it to attack legion worlds. No need to do that anymore, their leader is gone and we decimated all of his generals, they have no structure and will no longer be able to maintain a organized army. The Illidari like ebon blade disbanded and returned to their factions. Stop trying to pass your fan fic theory off as canon. The legion is over, deal with it.

Oh also you pointing out that fel is the created via the light and void clashing meaning even more Void elfs could not take it in, as it is part light and it would kill them, boom mic drop.

They are. Only demon hunters can do it efficiently. They still see the world. They did it because they wanted to fight fire with fire. That's it. Not all. They have many structures and ships across the universe. Ebon Blade has not disbanded. Again, you and your lore.

No. Fel is fel. There is no trace of its origins there except for nature of power, not it substance.

[keyboardshinobi]

They are. Only demon hunters can do it efficiently. They still see the world. They did it because they wanted to fight fire with fire. That's it. Not all. They have many structures and ships across the universe. Ebon Blade has not disbanded. Again, you and your lore.

No. Fel is fel. There is no trace of its origins there except for nature of power, not it substance.

Ebon Blade was disbanded except for a few members, only to fall back under the will of the lich king in Legion. Also Fel is not just fel, it is created in the twisting nether which is light and void combined you said it yourself. Thus a being of pure void cannot allow light or fel to enter their body. Illidian did it because he hated the legion for destroying his home. He took up their power with the belief that was the only way, others followed him and his ideals. Illidari were those others. Illidan is gone, his ideals of defeating the Legion complete, that is why he became the Jailer of Sargeras. No more demon hunters are needed. Also the legion is destroyed.

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To have power, yes. Common sense and knowledge of the ritual. It mentions no posession. DH do not become possessed otherwise they would be controlled by demons yo buddy yo.

Read the demon hunter lore. I'll even help by dropping two names: Loramus Thalipedes, and Leotheras the Blind.

Sure, they may dislike it but it doesn't mean they will appear before you as proved by countless demons. Of course, all those scarlets crusaders throwing light all around him and he was not in a presence of great light huehuehuehue

They all dislike it. And... really? What do you think the Scarlet Crusade does on a daliy basis? Their members go around throwing the Light everywhere and on everyone they come across, as if they're throwing confetti in a drunk college party?

Only if it is contrary.

It is contrary. They've been retconned from brutal demons into cunning, manipulative demons.

Sure, by demon hunters now that they are free and can recruit new souls.

There is no need for more demon hunters, and the demon hunters won't train anyone else because they know the sacrifices they have gone through in the name of vengeance. With the Burning Legion over, there is no more need for them to train more. It is the exact same case as the death knights: they aren't rising any more death knights. The ones we see today are all those who were risen by the Lich King back in the DK starting zone in Wrath. The sole exception are the new "four horsemen" that you raise back in Legion.

Muh seat of power muh seat. We have thousands worlds but muh seat of power. Ridiculous. Of course they will reorganize on a different planet. No brainer there muh boyo yo. Tichondrius and possibly Archimonde are alive so nope, most powerful dick hand of Sargeras is right there.

They don't need to fight titans, only weaken prison enough for Sargeras to escape.

They won't ever get anywhere nearly powerful enough to tickle a single Titan, much less four, in any meaningful length of time. And by "meaningful", I mean thousands upon thousands of years. So that's a non-issue for us, Azerothians, because it means the Burning Legion won't be able to attack Azeroth again until their latest invasion has became near-forgotten tales of the past.

I'm sure you don't know. It can take even less if Sargeras captures more than one titan (1). And there are millions of demons out there so all they need is portal boy and voila (2).

(1) He has to break out first, to be able to capture one of the Titans;
(2) You're acting as if it's as simple and easy to get a "portal boy" as it is to find a green leaf in a forest.

How? Because planet is a planet, you can build your operations on it. Not every planet has a soul in it. checkmate atheist.

Official source on that claim?

If he escapes.

FTFY

I'm sure he did. Unlike DK DH were loyal followers of Illidan, not slaves to his will. We are recruiting in our class hall illidari adepts so here we have new blood taa-dammm.

Death knights aren't slaves to the Lich King's will. Not since Wrath. And demon hunters aren't recruiting. Not they ever will, unless there is a dire need for demon hunter skills. And there currently isn't. And the way things are looking up, there won't be for a long, long, long while.

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Read the demon hunter lore. I'll even help by dropping two names: Loramus Thalipedes, and Leotheras the Blind.


They all dislike it. And... really? What do you think the Scarlet Crusade does on a daliy basis? Their members go around throwing the Light everywhere and on everyone they come across, as if they're throwing confetti in a drunk college party?


It is contrary. They've been retconned from brutal demons into cunning, manipulative demons.


There is no need for more demon hunters, and the demon hunters won't train anyone else because they know the sacrifices they have gone through in the name of vengeance. With the Burning Legion over, there is no more need for them to train more. It is the exact same case as the death knights: they aren't rising any more death knights. The ones we see today are all those who were risen by the Lich King back in the DK starting zone in Wrath. The sole exception are the new "four horsemen" that you raise back in Legion.




They won't ever get anywhere nearly powerful enough to tickle a single Titan, much less four, in any meaningful length of time. And by "meaningful", I mean thousands upon thousands of years. So that's a non-issue for us, Azerothians, because it means the Burning Legion won't be able to attack Azeroth again until their latest invasion has became near-forgotten tales of the past.


(1) He has to break out first, to be able to capture one of the Titans;
(2) You're acting as if it's as simple and easy to get a "portal boy" as it is to find a green leaf in a forest.


Official source on that claim?


FTFY


Death knights aren't slaves to the Lich King's will. Not since Wrath. And demon hunters aren't recruiting. Not they ever will, unless there is a dire need for demon hunter skills. And there currently isn't. And the way things are looking up, there won't be for a long, long, long while.

You should do it, and exercise some skill of readig with understanding. Those two examples are cases of possession. Possession in no way is a part of bcoming DH ritual.

Yes. Masses, blessings and all that stuff to keep everything pure. Balnazzar was in rooms with many of them doing their pissy magicks.

Nope. It is not contrary. They never were brutes. Play WIII. Manipulators and psychic vampires loving gore. That is who they are. Them being powerful spellcasters is part of new lore too.

Of course they will, they are not as short sighted as some people who have functioning eyes. They know the fight will never be over. DH and DK are two different things. Also you are mistaken there are npc pandaren dk so someone must have risen them and I doubt it happened before MoP as almost no pandarens traveled Azeroth at that time. And soon we will probably see another wave of DK being made. If not this then the next expansion. Also raising horsemen is different than raising regular dk.

they need to tinker with prison. Sargeras himself will dispose of them if he gets a chance. Well if by thousands you mean top 3 expansions then yeaaaaaaah boiii. Also even thousands of years are a good amount of time for DH to get experience and become super elite while fighting off demons traveling universe oon their spaceship.

He will do it. It is probably easier if Blizzard wills so.

Chronicles or Blizzard. I don't remember which. Draenor for an example did not have a soul.

He will.

They were. And again. Raising horsemen was different from raising dk. DK could not make horsemen and needed Kel's scribbles if I remember correctly. Raising dk is easy peasy lemon quasimodo. Theie is dire need for them. While we are fighting some old gods demons fly around and pick noses of good people. Demon hunters ought to hunt them down. And fly some space ship.

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Ebon Blade was disbanded except for a few members, only to fall back under the will of the lich king in Legion. Also Fel is not just fel, it is created in the twisting nether which is light and void combined you said it yourself. Thus a being of pure void cannot allow light or fel to enter their body. Illidian did it because he hated the legion for destroying his home. He took up their power with the belief that was the only way, others followed him and his ideals. Illidari were those others. Illidan is gone, his ideals of defeating the Legion complete, that is why he became the Jailer of Sargeras. No more demon hunters are needed. Also the legion is destroyed.

It wasn't disbanded. Not even once. Not for a moment. It is not confirmed whether they fell under LK's will. Fel is just fel. But so they wouldn't be able to touch arcane as it too is void and light. And so it goes for nature and everything else. Fel is fel, its own thing. It does not share dna with mom and pop. Illidan did it because he was a vengeful prick who understood what TBL is capable of. If he became a jailer then it means it is not over. Millions of demons are there and the legion is doing fine, just not great.

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You should do it, and exercise some skill of readig with understanding. Those two examples are cases of possession. Possession in no way is a part of bcoming DH ritual.

Yes. Masses, blessings and all that stuff to keep everything pure. Balnazzar was in rooms with many of them doing their pissy magicks.

Nope. It is not contrary. They never were brutes. Play WIII. Manipulators and psychic vampires loving gore. That is who they are. Them being powerful spellcasters is part of new lore too.

Of course they will, they are not as short sighted as some people who have functioning eyes. They know the fight will never be over. DH and DK are two different things. Also you are mistaken there are npc pandaren dk so someone must have risen them and I doubt it happened before MoP as almost no pandarens traveled Azeroth at that time. And soon we will probably see another wave of DK being made. If not this then the next expansion. Also raising horsemen is different than raising regular dk.

they need to tinker with prison. Sargeras himself will dispose of them if he gets a chance. Well if by thousands you mean top 3 expansions then yeaaaaaaah boiii. Also even thousands of years are a good amount of time for DH to get experience and become super elite while fighting off demons traveling universe oon their spaceship.

He will do it. It is probably easier if Blizzard wills so.

Chronicles or Blizzard. I don't remember which. Draenor for an example did not have a soul.

He will.

They were. And again. Raising horsemen was different from raising dk. DK could not make horsemen and needed Kel's scribbles if I remember correctly. Raising dk is easy peasy lemon quasimodo. Theie is dire need for them. While we are fighting some old gods demons fly around and pick noses of good people. Demon hunters ought to hunt them down. And fly some space ship.

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It wasn't disbanded. Not even once. Not for a moment. It is not confirmed whether they fell under LK's will. Fel is just fel. But so they wouldn't be able to touch arcane as it too is void and light. And so it goes for nature and everything else. Fel is fel, its own thing. It does not share dna with mom and pop. Illidan did it because he was a vengeful prick who understood what TBL is capable of. If he became a jailer then it means it is not over. Millions of demons are there and the legion is doing fine, just not great.

oh and one more thing. DK were raising people who died on the broken shore. so yeah, they are making a lot of baby dks. just not horsemen.