sylvanas's secret plan: raising azeroth as undead

[sillag]

aight so im pretty sure this is blizzards big secret twist for sylvanas in bfa

we have a planet thats dying here. its pretty bad news as we all know but the interesting new information we gained when this arc started is that azeroth itself is a living being and it can die

so if a titan world soul can die can it also be raised as an undead?

yes it can probably. you and i both know rules for the wow universe are made as and when the writers feel like it. and this is exactly the kind of huge cool sounding bullshit that blizzard would employ as a twist.

if the planet is already dying then sylvanas knows she's halfway there. that's why when she looks at the azerite shes like "this is gonna change everything". its not because she knows it can be used as an ultimately disappointing generic power source with no special effects that weren't already easily obtainable through gunpowder. it's because she realizes the planet is bleeding out and if it dies she can raise it into undeath.

then she goes straight to teldrassil, a world tree thats tied to the planet's life force or something. burns it down, increases the planets wounds. if she killed malfurion and tyrande in the process thats basically the only two non-magni leaders who give a fuck about saving azeroth because you know baine isn't ever going to be moved to do shit.

why raise azeroth into undeath? well idk if you remember but the forsaken are pretty sad about being the outcast undead. but on an undead planet suddenly they're the ones who fit in and the living will get a taste of what its like for them.

more seriously the void can't corrupt undead apparently. who do we know is coming to corrupt azeroth: the void. if sylvanas is there when they show up to make the planet itself undead then they're basically fucked and azeroth will live in undead peace forever with sylvanas as its forever ruler.

evidence to support this:

sylvanas in one of the short stories has a plan that she knows elune is going to try to step in and fuck her on. what kind of thing is big enough for elune to show up in person to stop. apparently killing all the night elves in teldrassil wasn't big enough. ysera being killed wasn't, but ysera being corrupted was. azeroth being killed and turned undead? you know elune is going to try to put a stop to that shit

sylvanas is being set up as making a war on life: self explanatory

the void knows what sylvanas is up to and goes berserk trying to get alleria to kill her. it probably knows sylvanas is going to raise azeroth as an undead planet that cant be corrupted

we have all kinds of horde players wondering what could make them betray sylvanas and obviously this is the kind of thing thats gonna make you turn on your warchief whoever you are. idk about forsaken though but i doubt blizzard really gives a fuck they will come up with something like having nathanos say shes gone too far or baine will appeal to your nobility and you will have no choice but to accept him as your lord and savior

the fate of azeroth will be shared by all its children boyee

[Bathory]

If not Sylvanas, maybe Kel'Thuzad.

[UnluckyAmateur]

Not entirely secret since she's doing the exact same thing Arthas was except she's nowhere near as bold about it.

[Broken Fox]

Not entirely secret since she's doing the exact same thing Arthas was except she's nowhere near as bold about it.

Cause she’s not doing the same exact thing Arthas was

And Arthas wasn’t shit without Frostmourne

[Maleific]

I feel like this isn't exactly a secret. >.>

[TheFirstOnes]

Cause she’s not doing the same exact thing Arthas was

And Arthas wasn’t shit without Frostmourne

And Sylvanas isn't shit without her poison arrows, and banshee powers...

The fuck are you talking about?

[Broken Fox]

And Sylvanas isn't shit without her poison arrows, and banshee powers...

The fuck are you talking about?

Cause Frostmourne wasn’t just a weapon it completely altered Arthas as a person. He was basically possessed.

[Zandalariprelate]

Not even Sargeras could corrupt the souls of the pantheon without the power of Argus and his own, Sylvanas is still leagues down to the current lich king and if there is a god of death probably won't powerful enough, considering the naarus and the old gods are capable of necromancy(the prequel novel and nerzhul in AU)

[sillag]

Not even Sargeras could corrupt the souls of the pantheon without the power of Argus and his own, Sylvanas is still leagues down to the current lich king and if there is a god of death probably won't powerful enough, considering the naarus and the old gods are capable of necromancy(the prequel novel and nerzhul in AU)

sure dude but you are forgetting 2 important things

1. blizzard doesnt give a fuck about that if they think they can do something cool. power levels and scales have no meaning in wow. the writers whim trumps everything. they can easily appease people like you by saying sylvanas got the "gem of bwonsamdi" or some other unconvincing shit that will let her raise azeroth as undead and you will eat it up because it came from blizzard's mouth.

2. we're later in the story than the lich king which by blizzard rules means that more extreme things will happen. sure the lich king couldn't do it. sure sargeras couldn't do it. but those were old expansions. if the stakes aren't constantly rising for no reason we wouldn't be playing wow anymore so obviously sylvanas is up to something bigger than we have seen before.

[vilememory]

FOOL! I CAME UP WITH THIS THEORY FIRST! But she isn't going to raise the dead Titan Azeroth, no... SHE IS GOING TO POSESS THE CORPSE OF AZEROTH'S TITAN TO BECOME THE FIRST UNDEAD TITAN! Both the Light and Void will bow before the Titan Queen or be forever destroyed! DEATH IS THE ONLY OPTION! OBEY YOUR QUEEN!

[Oneirophobia]

I think that’s far beyond her scope. She’s not interested in the planet dying, she’s interested in slaughtering the entire alliance and raising them as undead slaves to serve her and her horde.

Interestingly, Velen had a vision of a future in which Azeroth’s citizens were wholly undead. We all thought it was Bolvar who did it. It could very well have been Sylvanas.

[Kithelle]

Cause Frostmourne wasn’t just a weapon it completely altered Arthas as a person. He was basically possessed.

You're right...Arthas was possessed...she is just a insane murderer.

[Shadowsgrace]

And this is any better than Sargeras' plan to take over the Legion, and conquer everything leaving nothing for the Void Lords... how?

[sillag]

And this is any better than Sargeras' plan to take over the Legion, and conquer everything leaving nothing for the Void Lords... how?

no one ever said blizzard were good writers

[MechaCThun]

So is this thread just a "my theory" post and shit on everything else?

Well done.

Although the aspect of an "undead Azeroth" could translate into the Shadowlands flooding over into our reality and consuming the physical plane.

[Freaking Frumpy Frak]

Void and light are being hyped up as baddies.
Death is able to beat them, apparently.
Omniscient, Xel'Naga queen Slyvanus is the only one who can save us from the doom we are too simple minded to see.

[Synros]

Cause Frostmourne wasn’t just a weapon it completely altered Arthas as a person. He was basically possessed.

You do realize that the only reason Sylvanas is able to do what she does, is solely because of Arthas, right?...

[Surfd]

You do realize that the only reason Sylvanas is able to do what she does, is solely because of Arthas, right?...

no?

I mean, sure, Arthas is the root cause of her being a banshee, but other than killing her he has done literally jack shit in regards to how she developed as a character after he murdered her.

I mean, that's about as stupid as saying "The only reason X has accomplished anything in life is because their parents got busy an their mother popped them out 9 months later".

[vertigo12]

I'm so confused - on the one hand apparently Sylvanas is not even a match for Malfurion, but at the same she seemingly has the power to single-handedly turn a Titan world soul undead I guess when some people have a certain agenda about a character they will go with whichever narrative makes them sound worse, regardless of the contradictions.

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Arthas did not make Sylvanas the Ranger General of Silvermoon, just FYI...

Malfurion isn't ignorant that life magic requires life as payment. The reason why someone uses mana as resource and why warlocks used to convert life to mana.
He is pretty aware of what's happening in the Emerald Nightmare and Dream and that's the reason why he never wanted to set foot inside Rift of Aln himself.

Players are not aware but to magic or elements in connection with events that it is reversible and is interoperable between each other.

Fel to Death to Void.

Burning Legion was the first agent then the Birth of Scourge. Arthas has a redemption arc and it will be told thru Sylvanas.

Sargeras targeted Argus home of of the Eradar which are heavily influenced by arcane. The converted to fel which is at the opposite spectrum.

Sargeras once again targeted an arcane influenced personality thru the identity of Aegwyn and Medhivh to pour in fel infused orcs to Azeroth. Orcs became warlocks and necromancers with the use of death knights of dead Azerothians during first/second war.

The influence can be adjacent or opposite.
Example arcane to fel then death.
Fel back to light then shadow/void in the opposite side.
Natue/Life to Death

[Deleted]

You do realize that the only reason Sylvanas is able to do what she does, is solely because of Arthas, right?...

Arthas did not make Sylvanas the Ranger General of Silvermoon just FYI...