Gab deplatformed

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Gab.com is under attack. We have been systematically no-platformed by App Stores, multiple hosting providers, and several payment processors. We have been smeared by the mainstream media for defending free expression and individual liberty for all people and for working with law enforcement to ensure that justice is served for the horrible atrocity committed in Pittsburgh. Gab will continue to fight for the fundamental human right to speak freely.

As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

Why isn't Facebook deplatformed for hosting live throat slitting by ISIS, streaming rape by "refugees" and allowing multiple terrorist accounts to exists?

[Independent voter]

People who kicked Gab off their network are exercising their free speech.

[Soeroah]

Good question. Don't forget contributing to the propagation of fake news, though.

[derpkitteh]

while i hate to see free speech being stifled, why doesn't the owner just buy their own hosting equipment?

i'm sure supporters of the site could donate enough to keep it running, since not a lot of people actually use it anyway.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

while i hate to see free speech being stifled, why doesn't the owner just buy their own hosting equipment?

i'm sure supporters of the site could donate enough to keep it running, since not a lot of people actually use it anyway.

Doesn't really matter if they handle their own hosting if none of the app stores will pick up their app.

[Lanrefni]

And nothing of value has been lost.

[Deleted]

What the hell is gab?

[derpkitteh]

Doesn't really matter if they handle their own hosting if none of the app stores will pick up their app.

they can still get their name out there.

people search for it, like it, and sign up.

i don't see why you need an app. or hell, if you need an app, make your own app store, too.

[Soeroah]

What the hell is gab?

From a quick Google search, it's a far right version of Twitter made as "an alternative to Twitter", presumably because of Twitter "silencing all the right-wingers and favouring the left".

[derpkitteh]

And nothing of value has been lost.

i'm gonna love it when your policies lead to a real fascist taking over your country, because you weakened the protections against it.

i'm gonna love watching all y'all screaming and crying against the monster you enabled as you're dragged off to the prison camp.

[Sykol]

You're just watching censorship and totalitarianism in action and applauding it cause muh feelings.

Absolutely no way this can come back on you guys. Zero chance.

[Skroe]

Why isn't Facebook deplatformed for hosting live throat slitting by ISIS, streaming rape by "refugees" and allowing multiple terrorist accounts to exists?

Shocking an MMO-OT Alt-Reich poster objects to Alt-Reich Social Media being told to fuck off.

Shocking. Indeed.

[XDurionX]

People who kicked Gab off their network are exercising their free speech.

This. Nobody loses his right of free speech. There is no right of free amplification and distribution.

[callipygoustp]

The hyperbole in this thread is frightening!
(Just in time for Halloween, nice)

[Skroe]

What the hell is gab?

Basically Alt-Right / Neo-Nazi Twitter-Reddit.

It's where sociopaths and aggrieved children flee to when they want to insult Jews, Mexicans and African Americans without consequence. They call it a "free speech" platform because, you know, they got no guts to take responsibility for what they are, but what it really is is a hate site.

But let's be clear: it's not some big thing. It's a small, small network. Because most people in the world aren't sociopaths who want to rant about how non-Whites and the things they are accused of doing piss them off.

[Rennadrel]

From a quick Google search, it's a far right version of Twitter made as "an alternative to Twitter", presumably because of Twitter "silencing all the right-wingers and favouring the left".

Which is crap because Twitter moderation does do it's job, especially when dealing with abusive and racist users. I've seen multiple accounts get suspended for posting racist, anti-white hate speech on their feeds. These morons who complain about free speech on Twitter are just mad because their hate speech gets them banned. Well, it does for so called lefties as well.

[gobio]

After GAB is completely done for, they should go after MMO CHAMPION for allowing racist news (minor assault case happened in Germany, which MMO CHAMPION allows the poster to link it to refugees for nazi alt right propaganda) to reach first place of this forum. With 6 pages worth of comments and the post is still not removed. /s

[derpkitteh]

Which is crap because Twitter moderation does do it's job, especially when dealing with abusive and racist users. I've seen multiple accounts get suspended for posting racist, anti-white hate speech on their feeds. These morons who complain about free speech on Twitter are just mad because their hate speech gets them banned. Well, it does for so called lefties as well.

everyone should have a place to speak their mind.

whether hateful or normal, against whites or whatever other person, for whites or some other person, it doesn't matter.

everyone should be able to speak. no matter who the are or what they feel.

[Knolan]

What the hell is gab?

Twitter competitor that allowed free speech.

They were under attack recently because they hosted everyone, including alt righters and loli (porn japanese cartoons involving children) fan pages.

They did ban the loli pages, but AFAIK, not the alt righters.

On topic: that is quite bad, I mean, the "if you don't like it build your own site" way of life is failing here. Also, those attacks in mass (ISP, Hosting, other media companies) do look like coordinated (quite similar to what happened to Alex Jones, to be honest).

Not sure, what we are supposed to do in this case, I don't think we should force people to give service, but I do think they need to be neutral about it (a.k.a.: rules apply to the everyone the same).
If paypal refuses to work with Gab because of a mass murderer, they should to the same with youtube, for Elliot Rogers, for instance.

[Skroe]

After GAB is completely done for, they should go after MMO CHAMPION for allowing racist news (minor assault case happened in Germany, which MMO CHAMPION allows the poster to link it to refugees for nazi alt right propaganda) to reach first place of this forum. With 6 pages worth of comments and the post is still not removed. /s

I'm going to try real hard to make a point without it coming off as complaining about moderation, which is a no-no.

As the internet grew and diversified, and as the broundries between "real life" and "things on the internet" started to fall, behaviors changed and how the internet was used was changed. How people used and acted on the internet in 1997 was very different than 2005, which was different than 2010, which was different than 2018.

Many news websites once had open commenting sections in stories, but those have been increasingly shut down, or highly moderated (even curated). The "mode" of the internet has gone from one of assuming all participants want to act in good faith, to one that has erected substantial barriers to inhibit those wanting to act in bad faith, so that the people who want to act in good faith can.

Catching up to the evolving norms has not been a flat thing. Plainly, Facebook and Twitter did not take governments weaponizing their social networks, and the spread of trolls, hate groups and fake news, seriously enough through 2016. Even now, they're still rushing to catch up, and it's wholly inadequate. Other places, such as News websites, generally got on top of "the problem of trolls" a lot quicker.

To offer a contrast relevant to your post, this forum is basically stuck in the 2005 mode of how people on the internet are supposed to behave. By contrast, the NASASpaceflight Forum / L2, you have to Pay a subscription to get in, and it's so aggressively moderated (despite being open up to a host of issues) and its mods have such powerful tools at their disposal that it has none of the problems of MMO. Some of our more regular problem posters here are unthinkable there.

It comes down to how the internet has shifted. In the early 2000s, the order of the day was that the primacy of the open internet was intrinsically superior to the walled garden approach of earlier ISPs, like AOL or Compuserve. This allowed the internet to grow and diversify. Today, in the late 2010s, we've seen that abused by governments and individuals for a variety of reasons, and it's putting highly curated "walled garden" experienced back in vogue.

A decade from now it'll probably be another mode (and maybe MMO will be different by then), but between the spread of fake news, foreign government propaganda, hate groups, hacking, malware and trolls, the opennes belief we took for granted two decades ago - about an interconnected world - seem naive and obsolete.

There is a good chance for example that in coming years, there will be effectively three internets: the US one, the European one and the Chinese ones, and everyone else will belong to one of the three. Honestly, this might not be a bad thing. But the present course it is going on cannot continue.