Incels/Right Wingers strike again. 2 dead in Florida

[Kallisto]

I come before you as a vegan.

Our movement is an animal free living one.

In eating steak I am doing the will of veganism.

And here we are. No true scotsman invoked guys.

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Reading the Fascist Manifesto and of course Mein Kampf is crucial to gain an understanding of the socialist ideals of fascism. Das Kapital is worth a read also, Marx clearly inspiring Hitler's anti-semitism greatly.

Here I will give direct quotes from Mein Kampf expressing God behind the views of Hitler and other religious views:

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. (p. 65)

Political parties have nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties. (p. 116)

This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief. (p. 152)

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. A fight for freedom had begun mightier than the earth had ever seen; for once Destiny had begun its course, the conviction dawned on even the broad masses that this time not the fate of Serbia or Austria was involved, but whether the German nation was to be or not to be. (p. 161)

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God. (p. 174)

His [the Jewish person's] life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took to the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In retum, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties — and this against their own nation. (p. 307)

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise. (p. 383)

It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world. (p. 403)

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will. (p. 562)

As far as this variety of ‘folkish’ warriors, are concerned, I can only wish the National Socialist movement and the German people with all my heart: "Lord, preserve us from such friends, and then we can easily deal with our enemies." (p. 565)

Since Germany never defends herself, except by a few flaming protests on the part of our parliamentary elite, and the rest of the world has no reason for fighting in our defense, and as a matter of principle God does not make cowardly nations free... (p. 622)

For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’ (pp. 632-633)

Turn God into Allah and everyone would be screaming about hitler was proof of how muslims are evil like they tried with Bin Laden.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

Although I hate alt-right and don't want to defend them, welcome to a simple black and white world of leftists where everyone I disagree with is a nazi.

"I don't want to defend them"

Then don't defend them.

[klepp0906]

I'll settle for one, as long as it is you.

Seriously though, you don't give two shits about the victims. You just display this fake outcry over their deaths to look like someone who cares, but in reality, you would probably wish them worse the second you find out they were Trump supporters. You are two generations late to the party, but maybe some time machine will someday let you tattoo numbers on little kids arms. Don't let your dreams be dreams!

/thread #havemybabies

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So i havent watched legit left wingers riot destroying property, attacking people who just want to promote free speech or the 2nd amendment? That wasnt real news what i saw in berkley or seattle? It must not have been real news when a left winger shot up a congressional baseball game. That wasnt real news must have been fake. It wasnt real news when someone was having a discussion and a random left winger hits him in the head with a bike lock for no reason other than the guy was a conservative. Must have been fake news that democrats in the senate pandered to women who made false statements to try and railroad brett kavanaugh just because they didnt want him on the supreme court, and now the truth is coming out where two women are facing an investigation into submitting false statements.

Yea right wingers are the ones who are raging sociopaths or bigots, not the left wingers pretending to fight fascism by literally becoming fascists. As a black man i dont want racists or sexist people in charge of our country and when left wingers are literally racist against their own race and sexist against their own sex but are unwilling to give up their own power but want to take it from others just proves how morally corrupt they are.

this, and more i dont have the energy to get into. its exhausting.

[Segus1992]

Ok.....


You think discussing on this forum the reasons behind this tragedy is useless, but instead we should just talk about the tragedy of it, because that is useful, I guess.

Do you honestly think out the things you say to their logical conclusion or do you just jump to white knight the right when they are being blamed for something?

You even managed to twist your American media twisted brain into thinking I give a shit about your politics. That's impressive delusion.

What you people do FURTHERS this shit - people feel alienated and less likely to be good citizens, talking about the tragedy does nothing but show compassion, but it at least doesn't make matters worse like this retardation does.

[Post]

Quick, demonize and suppress them more.

[Themius]

Although I hate alt-right and don't want to defend them, welcome to a simple black and white world of leftists where everyone I disagree with is a nazi.

You say this on the heels of a nazi shooting up a synagogue.

[Mihalik]

So, so far I have seen the following from the right.

1, Whataboutism. #The Muslims are worse.
2, False equivalency. A protest by lefties=repeated terror attacks by right wingers.
3, Incoherent ramblings straight off Alex Jones' Info Wars.
4, Victim blaming.
5, Ramblings about how the Nazis are Socialist and Antifa are actually Fascist. And that Democrats are the real racists.

So, it doesn't matter how many terror attacks their ideological "allies" carry out in the span of a few weeks, the narrative doesn't change.

[Aggrophobic]

I remember reading an article written by a professor from University of Wisconsin - Madison talking about people in small town Wisconsin. Specifically this was about people that voted Obama twice, but then went Trump. She had two main points. One, when Obama came to Wisconsin, he used a sort Bernie Sanders like populist rhetoric. You know, talking about jobs, the working class, earning a living, etc.. But then when he got into Washington, it was a lot of "you need to change with the times" time stuff. The felt like he was calling them backwards hillbillies. So Hillary did receive an Obama backlash. Also, at the time governor Scott Walker did an OK job of bringing jobs for people. People felt a kind of duty to the Republican party. This doesn't answer the question for all of the US, but it is part of the puzzle.

This only applies I think to this small pocket of people in small northern Wisconsin towns. The lady felt that there really wasn't any racial animosity. The reason why, a significant portion of the people had literally never met a black or latino person in their entire life...lol

Thing is, you always need to "change with the times". That some can't understand that is an issue of course and that uneducated people tend to be easier to con is another. Not sure how things worked out in Wisconsin and I am sure democrats can be bad at what they do just like republicans can.

[Vash The Stampede]

Mostly what we have is a gun problem, which allows weak people like this guy to kill others. But that's another thread altogether.

This right here. It's not a Incel or Right Wing issue, just we need to get guns out of the hands of nut jobs.

[Jehct]

The real fascists ( republicans ) will do anything they can to flame the right side of history. They are just too dumb to understand how democrats are just better and more logical than they are. Perfect example of how guns do way more harm than rocks ever could. When the caravan comes we better be open armed and hugging them. Even if they do throw rocks it wont do any damage. Dumb fascists.

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So, so far I have seen the following from the right.

1, Whataboutism. #The Muslims are worse.
2, False equivalency. A protest by lefties=repeated terror attacks by right wingers.
3, Incoherent ramblings straight off Alex Jones' Info Wars.
4, Victim blaming.
5, Ramblings about how the Nazis are Socialist and Antifa are actually Fascist. And that Democrats are the real racists.

So, it doesn't matter how many terror attacks their ideological "allies" carry out in the span of a few weeks, the narrative doesn't change.

I couldn't agree more. All they do is deflect at whatever group they are hating at the moment. Dumb fascists will never learn.

[Muzjhath]

Yes, it was a Democrat who shot up a Synagogue. He was a Trump hating socialist. (Nazis are SOCIALISTS, not "right-wing". Stop believing the bullshit lies and learn actual history. They were literally the Socialist party of Germany, and favored state control of everything, gun bans and confiscation, and all the other crap Liberals/Socialists love) Get your freaking facts straight. The Yoga shooter also has a history of violence and racist/sexist behavior that goes back years before Trump was President. To when Trump was still a Democrat.

First bold part. This is untrue. They called themselves socialist to pull the rug under the socialist movements in Germany who were flirting with the Soviet Union during the economic failures of the Weimar Republic. Naming themselves socialists and co-opting part of their platform to get votes was in many ways a continuation of Bismarcks neoconservatist platform after the revolutions of 1848. Even if in this case it wasn't to keep the status quo but to institute a new order.

The second part, they only confiscated stuff owned by people not German/not of the party. As they saw ownership rights as based on nationality.

On gun rights and confiscation. Outside of the US that's historically been a left thing. In Europe it was the Communists who called to arms. Who told people to horde weapons. And it was the generally conservative governments who wanted a disarmed population. The Nazi party wanted the people unarmed for the same reason. They didn't want communists with weapons. They wanted a strong army with weapons.

So stop looking at history through a flawed lens, in the case of the last a very fucking American one. Gun rights in Europe was historically left-wing as fuck. Because the left wing was the part who wanted an armed insurrection to pull down the social order.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

So by your logic, Islamic terrorism represent all Muslims, and that Congressional baseball shooting represents everyone on the Left?... You're the only person denying reality here, because you're a fucking hypocrite who wants to have their cake and eat it too.

Trump made the caravan a big deal and the guy used that as his justification for commiting the crime... Did support Trump no but did the language Trump and the republicans used spur him on... That would be a yes my good sir.

[Gardoc]

"I don't want to defend them"

Then don't defend them.

I'm not, I'm just pointing out the black and white thinking of the leftists. Thanks for proving my point I guess.

[VincentWolf]

So, how many more people need to get hurt by fucking antifa before we admit that we have a left-wing terrorist problem? Fucking piece of shit lefties.... The very filth of humanity.

[Gardoc]

You say this on the heels of a nazi shooting up a synagogue.

That terrorist attack doesn't change the fact that far-left thinks like that. I wouldn't argue in threads like this one if the leftists stop using tragedies to bash their political opponents. Have you seen the threads about that synagogue shooting? People blaming Trump, his supporters and the Republican party? And yes, I condemn the right using muslim attack to bash their political opponents as well.

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So, so far I have seen the following from the right.

1, Whataboutism. #The Muslims are worse.
2, False equivalency. A protest by lefties=repeated terror attacks by right wingers.
3, Incoherent ramblings straight off Alex Jones' Info Wars.
4, Victim blaming.
5, Ramblings about how the Nazis are Socialist and Antifa are actually Fascist. And that Democrats are the real racists.

So, it doesn't matter how many terror attacks their ideological "allies" carry out in the span of a few weeks, the narrative doesn't change.

I've seen the same thing from the left. And why do you think that nazis are my ideological allies? I'm a right-winger, I'm leaning towards libertarianism, which is a complete opposite of nazism. Nazis are just unsuccessful pathetic human beings who blame other races/religions for their pathetic life. But far-left is just as bad, the only difference is that they blame other people based on their success/wealth. Both these ideologies plundered my country and killed many people, so I hate them equally. But it's hard to explain to someone with a political compass so primitive that right = nazis and left = good guys.

[szechuan]

Both these ideologies plundered my country and killed many people, so I hate them equally. But it's hard to explain to someone with a political compass so primitive that right = nazis and left = good guys.

Stop electing shitty Leaders.

[Gardoc]

Stop electing shitty Leaders.

We didn't have shitty leaders, in case of nazis west betrayed us and we had to surrender without fighting. In case of communists we tried to kicked them out, but then they invited the army of the Warsaw Pact and they occupied our contry for many years.

[Bodakane]

You even managed to twist your American media twisted brain into thinking I give a shit about your politics. That's impressive delusion.

What you people do FURTHERS this shit - people feel alienated and less likely to be good citizens, talking about the tragedy does nothing but show compassion, but it at least doesn't make matters worse like this retardation does.

You don't give a shit?

You, Seagus1992, are the one vehemently posting in thread about American politics. You, Seagus 1992, inserted yourself into this discussion that had precisely dick and fuck all to do with you.

If you don't care about this topic, why the fuck are you in here aggressively arguing and giving your opinion?

Here's a tip free of charge....prove yourself correct and go the fuck away from this thread.

[maccajoe]

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

Thats true democrats shoot up baseball parks.

[Requiem94]

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

No, the left tries to gun down senators at baseball games.