Saurfang is not a traitor

[Tyze]

If he's a traitor. Then Durotan, Orgrim, Cairne and Vol'jin are traitors as well.
All of these stood up against their warchief and are legends.

[Deleted]

Good point, probably. Does everyone that hates Saurfang now hate Thrall? Because Thrall was literally allied with much of the alliance, or whatever. (or Jaina, at least. I forget, I don't like Thrall)

[Tekkommo]

Garrosh best Warchief.

He did nothing wrong.

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If he's a traitor. Then Durotan, Orgrim, Cairne and Vol'jin are traitors as well.
All of these stood up against their warchief and are legends.

Yes all traitors, like Thrall.

[Deleted]

As i said in the other thread, Sylvanas fans will say anything to defend her. They care about the honorable horde as much as their Lich Queen, wich is not at all. Just tools to be used for the undead empire.

[mexthar]

He is a traitor af. He asked for help to enemy. They are at war. Anduin will set puppet warchief in throne of Ogrimmar. They gonna be bros like Putin and Lukashenko/Russia and Belarus. Golden destroyed whole war plot. Imagine same situation in more serious series like GoT. Saurfang would hang exactly same moment when he pass by first Horde outpost.


Saurfang DOA!

Ps. Sry for my English

[Tyze]

He is a traitor af. He asked for help to enemy. They are at war. Anduin will set puppet warchief in throne of Ogrimmar. They gonna be bros like Putin and Lukashenko/Russia and Belarus. Golden destroyed whole war plot. Imagine same situation in more serious series like GoT. Saurfang would hang exactly same moment when he pass by first Horde outpost.


Saurfang DOA!

Ps. Sry for my English

I wouldn't call a person from germany in the 1940s that stood against Hitler for a traitor.

Yeah, take that!

[FuxieDK]

If he's a traitor. Then Durotan, Orgrim, Cairne and Vol'jin are traitors as well.
All of these stood up against their warchief and are legends.

Standing up against a leader is not treason.. Aiding the enemy is, however..

[mexthar]

I wouldn't call a person from germany in the 1940s that stood against Hitler for a traitor.

Yeah, take that!

But he would be traitor. Traitor of own homeland and at same time real hero.

IMO they gonna let Saurfang have his final sacrifice at the end of xpac. With man tears etc.

[ceall]

<instert oprah meme here> You are a traitor, and you are a traitor, EVERYONE IS A TRAITOR!!!!

[ToxicFlame]

If he's a traitor. Then Durotan, Orgrim, Cairne and Vol'jin are traitors as well.
All of these stood up against their warchief and are legends.

Don't know the lore about durotan and ogrim but I don't remember cairne ever going to the alliance for help.
Also do you mean to imply that vol'jin didn't betray his warchief that he didn't go to the alliance to ask for help? He is as much a traitor as saurfang is

[Cosmic Janitor]

We literally have a thread about the topic already (which obviously spurned you on to make this one), so why not argue there? Fun fact though, you won't change anyone's opinion. The sylvanas wankers and orc hitler lovers have chosen their side and as typical for the internet now it's all about making up the reasons for why their choice is the right one.

[Xerfall]

We literally have a thread about the topic already (which obviously spurned you on to make this one), so why not argue there? Fun fact though, you won't change anyone's opinion. The sylvanas wankers and orc hitler lovers have chosen their side and as typical for the internet now it's all about making up the reasons for why their choice is the right one.

Calling anyone who doesn't share your opinion on the matter as wankers and hitler lovers, and whatever reasons they might have it's just made up.. way to go there!
I wonder what if eventually it turned out Sylvanas is actually doing something right and we don't have all the pieces in place just yet, how would you feel then?

[varik]

He is a traitor af. He asked for help to enemy.

He asked for nothing, did nothing, just stepped away and refused to help Sylvanas on her undead path. He hoped that the Cry Boy would solve the Lich Queen problem, but even now after the cinematic we don't know if he will side with the alliance, we know that he will not side with Sylvanas. Wanting something else to our "country/race" don't make us traitors.

[Kilpi]

Calling anyone who doesn't share your opinion on the matter as wankers and hitler lovers, and whatever reasons they might have it's just made up.. way to go there!
I wonder what if eventually it turned out Sylvanas is actually doing something right and we don't have all the pieces in place just yet, how would you feel then?

I would still feel that Sylvanas is pure evil and that her end didn't justify the means.

[FireVoodoo]

Garrosh best Warchief.

He did nothing wrong.

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Yes all traitors, like Thrall.

I'm Ali (98% exclusively) and spit at Horde scum and enjoyed raiding Orgri etc etc etc. But I fail to see what wrong did Garrosh do to Horde (or Arthas in Strat for that matter).

Sylvanas on the other hand is the piece of scum, modern Western illness incarnate (3rd wave feminism run amok, so to speak).

[Arakakao]

As I see, if you want to call someone traitor because he allied with an enemy, then that's not Saurfang: is Anduin.

[Deleted]

If he's a traitor. Then Durotan, Orgrim, Cairne and Vol'jin are traitors as well.
All of these stood up against their warchief and are legends.

Amen brother. These "he's a traitor" -complains come from salty, teenager sylvanas fanbase (or horde extremist) who are shitting their diapers already, because they fear that miss Dead Titties is going get a one way ticket to the eternal damnation.

[Deleted]

The only people to call him a traitor are cringe Sylvanas edgelords. Everyone else knows he is the future of the horde.

[Evelyn]

Saurfang the Whisteblower

[Tyze]

Standing up against a leader is not treason.. Aiding the enemy is, however..

Then pretty much everyone is a traitor by that statement.
Tauren and Night Elf’s
Varian
Thrall
Rexxar
Jaina
Anduin
Baine
List goes on