People Who Have Moved On From WoW?

[schwank05]

MoP is when WoW became truly intolerable for me. It was the first real, very noticeable sign of things to come (which proved to be right), and it was time to go. Some would argue Cataclysm, which is also true after they started the nerfs / watering down, but things really started getting unWoW-like from MoP on.

Yup I feel the same way WOW was my only game I played and sunk a lot of time into it then MOP released I raided the first tier and was like well F this Im out, This was the first time I unsubbed from the game since I created my account in January 05. I have not been subbed more than a month or 2 in each expansion since then, I hated having a schedule for raiding after I got out of college and had other things to do so I now play GW2 and PS4 games like Warframe which is a great game and its free.

[mingarrubia]

I wasn't super excited about BfA but I played for two weeks before I decided to call it quits. Being a casual (non-raider) I spend a lot of my time out in the world -- it was the ilvl enemy scaling that killed it for me. Hit 120 at around 280 and realized at 321 that I didn't feel any stronger at all. It also doesn't help my case that I play a tank spec.

Something similar happened to me. Mob scaling at max lvl killed the game for me too. And seeing the direction the game has taken, at this point I don't think I'll ever return.

[AestostheInsane]

I've tried plenty of other games... haven't found that "move on" game... I tried, kind of want to... but raiding in other games is pretty much garbage... that said, there are a lot of other different features in a lot of games that I like... but there's just not 1 game that puts it all together...


WoW has the best raid base...

DAoC had the best PvP/RvR

I loved that in Rift you had chronicles and the ability to scale your level to play with friends...

there just is no "perfect" game.

[crono14]

I'm catching up on my collection of PS4 games I have been meaning to play - I am Setsuna, Lost Sphear, Marvel's Spiderman, Ni No Kuni 2, and going back to Shadow of Mordor.

Not a chance in hell I will return for BFA.

[GreenJesus]

I personally have been playing FFXIV and ESO, during legion I was having too much fun with the guild to pay attention to them but with BFA I am enjoying both of these game's outdoor content, I have not participated in high end game in these 2 games like I have in wow but both feel good enough to be a noob in them again.

Yeh I log in for raid and then I go play ESO and sometimes FF14. I like in ESO all content stays relevant.

[Kyriani]

I haven't moved on from WoW per se but I play both WoW and FFXIV. During times I am not happy with wow (like WoD for example) I focus on FFXIV and let my wow sub lapse.

[Garretdejiko]

End of Cataclysm i "moved on" from WoW to League of Legends...for a couple years.

Nowadays i vomit if i play League again...and im currently playing WoW.

Are you me?

I started playing League early 2013 and then quitted in Feb 2018. I don't have the patience anymore. The frustration of losing a 45 min game got the best of me.
Tryed a Private Vanilla server and the experience was abysmal, so dreadful that I resubed again.

MMO's are a big part of me, started with RO and then WoW. It's the best MMO out there, perhaps compiting with FF, but again, Final Fantasy might be a great franchise, but its lore is not as engaging as Warcraft's for me.

I think that's the key, take an IP from your childhood and turn it into a MMO. A proper Diablo MMORPG would've been great.

TL;DR: You just don't quit WoW

[arkaledus]

Like a few others, I played from Vanill thru Cata (quit in Firelands era), when I hung it up then I thought I was done, but I came back in WoD and have come back for each expansion since. These days I don't think of WoW as a game to "quit", basically WoW is going to change and sometimes it'll be fun and sometimes it won't. I don't really obsess over it or feel the need to blast Blizzard when I feel like it's not fun anymore--I just unsubscribe and revisit the game some time down the road. At least with WoD and Legion I found that the game was very fun in the beginning and got weaker later in, that may happen with BfA too and if it does I'll just stop and play other games.

[fadedmind]

I still play pretty consisitent but dark souls series is my poison that ruins most games for me.

[draynay]

I tried GW2 and liked it pretty well, but it was only fun when other people were around to play with, and that wasn't often enough.

[Deleted]

I will finish your sentence:
People Who Have Moved On From WoW.. are still on these forums.


OP: I still play. Tried some other games, but it just not it

[Ghazan Julio]

We all moved on there's nothing to do. Save your "there's always something to do in WoW speech". No there really isn't. The amount of repetition is insane. Playing things like Bioshock Infinite and Titanfall 2 have been more rewarding. I don't see much of a future for this nerdy mmo anymore. And I think that's probably a good thing because it was getting old and addictive. The people who are addicted to WoW now have to start over lol. That would be like after playing something as lame as a game of golf, I would replay everything the same exact way.
^Which will never happen, and isn't possible

[Endus]

I quit during MoP, came back briefly in WoD, and then haven't been back since.

What games have I moved on to? I keep playing new games. I've gotten away from playing MMOs pretty much entirely, because it's too easy for me to see the Skinner box gameplay now for what it is. If I do play one, it's something like SWTOR, and I play it like a grindy single-player RPG. The current game I'm hyped for is Fallout 76, which is gonna scratch several itches for quite a while (I've been in the beta, so I know what I'm getting and it's exactly what I want, pretty much; this isn't blind optimism).

What got me to quit? A bunch of things;

1> Skinner box gameplay. Basically, do a repetitive task to get a small reward. You'll keep doing the task to get the rewards. In the case of WoW (and most MMOs), this comes in gold/gear/reputation/cosmetics rewards. The problem with them is that they're never an end goal. You always need more. And once people start to get bored, they put out a new expansion, take away the rewards you've collected (in the sense that top gear is no longer great, and your gold is worth way less than it was), swap in new rewards with a new coat of paint on the box, and you keep grinding the same treadmill. You're never "done". There's no way to "win". The goal is to keep you running, and the rewards are just the bait to get you to do so.

2> Devs that don't respond well/at all to feedback. I was one of the handful of community theorycrafters for Elemental Shaman for several expansions, before I quit. I would go onto PTRs and betas to do hours and hours of manual testing, and edit/optimize simulations and rotations, to provide feedback to help balance the spec. My goal wasn't to top charts, just to correct major blocks and try and trend towards the middle of the pack. It was tiresome investing huge amounts of time and effort into producing data conclusively showing where an issue lay, only to have the devs straight-up ignore it. And then half-ass the fix you suggested, but over a year later, before immediately reverting it with the new expansion. Frustrating.

3> Stress. I was helping run a raiding guild, and managing that guild and getting everyone to work together was more work than fun. Herding cats while simultaneously testing rotation adjustments and not just watching my own timers but calling out the boss' and calling for group buffs and watching some of those cats STAND IN THE GODDAMN FIRE I JUST TOLD THEM ABOUT because they can't handle moving AND doing damage, just no. Not happening. I'd rather play a single player game where the only one I'm relying on to not fuck up is me.

[Ghazan Julio]

So anyways like i just said.........the game isn't fun anymore at all to a lot of people. It's become cosmetic/appearance based. Thanks ACTIVISION

[GreenJesus]

I quit during MoP, came back briefly in WoD, and then haven't been back since.

What games have I moved on to? I keep playing new games. I've gotten away from playing MMOs pretty much entirely, because it's too easy for me to see the Skinner box gameplay now for what it is. If I do play one, it's something like SWTOR, and I play it like a grindy single-player RPG. The current game I'm hyped for is Fallout 76, which is gonna scratch several itches for quite a while (I've been in the beta, so I know what I'm getting and it's exactly what I want, pretty much; this isn't blind optimism).

What got me to quit? A bunch of things;

1> Skinner box gameplay. Basically, do a repetitive task to get a small reward. You'll keep doing the task to get the rewards. In the case of WoW (and most MMOs), this comes in gold/gear/reputation/cosmetics rewards. The problem with them is that they're never an end goal. You always need more. And once people start to get bored, they put out a new expansion, take away the rewards you've collected (in the sense that top gear is no longer great, and your gold is worth way less than it was), swap in new rewards with a new coat of paint on the box, and you keep grinding the same treadmill. You're never "done". There's no way to "win". The goal is to keep you running, and the rewards are just the bait to get you to do so.

2> Devs that don't respond well/at all to feedback. I was one of the handful of community theorycrafters for Elemental Shaman for several expansions, before I quit. I would go onto PTRs and betas to do hours and hours of manual testing, and edit/optimize simulations and rotations, to provide feedback to help balance the spec. My goal wasn't to top charts, just to correct major blocks and try and trend towards the middle of the pack. It was tiresome investing huge amounts of time and effort into producing data conclusively showing where an issue lay, only to have the devs straight-up ignore it. And then half-ass the fix you suggested, but over a year later, before immediately reverting it with the new expansion. Frustrating.

3> Stress. I was helping run a raiding guild, and managing that guild and getting everyone to work together was more work than fun. Herding cats while simultaneously testing rotation adjustments and not just watching my own timers but calling out the boss' and calling for group buffs and watching some of those cats STAND IN THE GODDAMN FIRE I JUST TOLD THEM ABOUT because they can't handle moving AND doing damage, just no. Not happening. I'd rather play a single player game where the only one I'm relying on to not fuck up is me.

I agree but ESO is an exception. All new content is horizontal progression and does not replace old content. It just brings new stuff to do/new options for tier sets to use. Although I tend to play it as more of a single player game with a community and group dungeons.

[Sastank]

I tried GW2 and liked it pretty well, but it was only fun when other people were around to play with, and that wasn't often enough.

I liked GW2 in the very short time I tried it with a friend. But friend doesn't have the time for games like I do. I think we got like level 15-20 or something and quit D:

[Endus]

I agree but ESO is an exception. All new content is horizontal progression and does not replace old content. It just brings new stuff to do/new options for tier sets to use. Although I tend to play it as more of a single player game with a community and group dungeons.

SWTOR has good stories and is worth playing if you like Star Wars.
ESO has good horizontal progression as you said, and scales well. I just get bored, eventually, though it's the kind of game I might fire up again sometime.

I'm not really shitting on the CONCEPT of MMOs, just the ubiquity of Skinner boxes as a basis for long-term retention. They aren't the only method, they're just the easiest method.

[Rogalicus]

Not any particular game, I just got fed up with game turning into boring unrewarding grind in Legion. I'm mostly playing JRPGs now with GW1/GW2/Project Gorgon as my side games.

[GreenJesus]

SWTOR has good stories and is worth playing if you like Star Wars.
ESO has good horizontal progression as you said, and scales well. I just get bored, eventually, though it's the kind of game I might fire up again sometime.

I'm not really shitting on the CONCEPT of MMOs, just the ubiquity of Skinner boxes as a basis for long-term retention. They aren't the only method, they're just the easiest method.

Yeh now that I am working I am usually tired by the time I get home and I when up spending a lot of time doing daily stuff and then by the time I get to progressing some quest lines I am ready to go to bed or falling asleep on the keyboard.

[Fabinas]

Started WoW on April 2005, quit during June 2017. Non stop sub. Legion with its heinous grinds and the rng casino rewards killed WoW for me. Paragon boxes were the last straw for me and made me quit. Not coming back ever, because of Blizzard's stance to remove rewards from older expansions when a new launches.
Replaced WoW with Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes (mobile game) and quit it after 6 months. got bored of the grind there as well.

Don't play games now. Prefer to spit on Blizzard and WoW.