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    Alliance Anduin needs to be impeached from the throne TRAITOR

    Anduin released a very important Horde prisoner out of custody right under everyone’s noses. This is an act of treason under the Alliance. He needs to be dethroned. It’s time for Jaina or Genn or another human from the seven kingdoms to take over as high monarch. Its also time for the alliance to stand on its own without the horde
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    He is the King pretty sure he can do what he wants. He has Shaw and Genn backing him on everything as well. I highly doubt he just let him go without informing his council.

    Also the 7 kingdoms are gone and they were their own kingdoms. It would be like someone from Canada or America coming to rule Britain. The races of the Alliance are just allies. Anduin doesn't go around telling Nightelves or Dwarves what they can and cant do in their own kingdoms.

    As far as the Alliance standing on their own without the horde.. they are and infact are winning the war on every front.
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    Impeached? What is this, modern-age America?

    The ruling line is exactly that: the lineage that rules. The king makes the rules as they see fit until they either relinquish the throne to their heir, or they get killed and a new king is crowned (if there is no heir to it). There is no House of Parliament or Senate here, my friend.

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    "King? I didn't vote for you!"

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    Impeachment in WoW lol

    "Impeached" for doing a thing he as the High King can do in the first place. What's next, proposing a Twitter tag to accelerate Anduin's "impeachment"?

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    Anduin pardoned a prisoner of war. Also, he's in charge... he can't be a traitor to himself.

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    Anduin is King. Thereby giving him ultimate power over his subjects through succession, he can do what ever he pleases.

    Also these X is a traitor threads need to stop. People are reading WAY too much into a 4 minute cinematic for what they want to see, which was clearly self explanatory...the enemy of my enemy is my uneasy ally. They arent friends, there is no formal agreement of fealty between Saurfang and Anduin, literally just an understanding of how pointless the war is, and Saurfang has the ability to potentially sway the Horde to bring it to an end. That. Is. It. Anduin isn't going to consider Saurfang his friend, or ally, merely a mutual means to an end.

    Without the story coming to a full conclusion I will reserve absolute judgement, but for the life of me i cannot understand how people are reading so much into the cinematic.

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    While you can try a king for treason, I can't think of an example of it happening without some sort of a revolution first. Charles I and Louis XVI were executed for treason, but in both cases there were a lot more going on than just releasing a prisoner of war.

    Maybe we get an Alliance civil war first?

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    He released a prisioner who might (and probably will) begin a civil war or revolution within the Horde. Or, in a worst case scenario, just die. It's very hard for this to have any negative consequences for the Alliance, and very easy for it to have great results.
    It's a thing that happened IRL too. It works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Anduin released a very important Horde prisoner out of custody right under everyone’s noses. This is an act of treason under the Alliance. He needs to be dethroned. It’s time for Jaina or Genn or another human from the seven kingdoms to take over as high monarch. Its also time for the alliance to stand on its own without the horde
    Huh? What? He's the king, he can do as he sees fit. By the very fact he's the king he cant be a 'traitor' and there is no way to 'impeach' your king. The best you can do is try and overthrow the crown, which would make YOU the traitor and guilty of treason.

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    Auduin is the KING, and can do whatever he wants. If he wants to release a Prisoner of War to use as a proxy agent to take down an enemy like Sylvanas, he's well within his power as a KING to do that... A Monarchy is not a Democracy.
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    As others have stated, he is King. He is the highest authority. Alliances are for him to forge or break as he pleases.

    But more importantly, did he betray his people?
    To be a traitor to his people, he would have to pursue goals that come at their expense and do not align with their interest, to a strongly negative effect. So what is good for his people?

    Well, it's clear what's worst for his people: Sylvanas. The heavy losses are driving the Alliance to desperation. Garrosh fell because part of the Horde turned on him. Trying to recreate those circumstances would seem to be in the Alliance's interests.

    Could this backfire onto Anduin? Yes. He let Saurfang go unconditionally. Saurfang is an enemy general with immense experience, who has both worked with, and against, the Alliance in the past. If he manages to depose Sylvanas, and does so without it leaving the Horde in disarray, he could forge a mighty Horde indeed. One that doesn't at all have to be interested in forging treaties with the Alliance.

    But, even in that worst-case scenario, they'd probably be better off. Even a united strong Saurfang Horde, would be weaker, more limited, and less effective at murder than Sylvanas' Horde. And even if they scored an ultimate victory over the Alliance, Saurfang's Horde would not commit genocide on humanity like Sylvanas would.

    So yeah. Even in the very worst case scenario, Anduin's decision won't end up worse than the situation they are already in. Thus, his actions benefit humanity. How much, time will tell. But he is certainly no traitor.

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    I would like this to come bit Anduin ass, not sure if that means impeachement but at least, to have the Night Elves angry (first he doesn't send troops to help them retake darkshore, and now he frees one of the main culprits for the destruction of their home)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    I would like this to come bit Anduin ass, not sure if that means impeachement but at least, to have the Night Elves angry (first he doesn't send troops to help them retake darkshore, and now he frees one of the main culprits for the destruction of their home)
    I imagine Malfurion would understand the situation a little better than that. Saurfang did go against the Warchief's orders and spare his life.
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    Alliance character does thing with zero consequences and everyone is on board, more at 11.


    You'd think at some point one of the other Alliance leaders would get at least a little pushy with Anduin. Or with anything. At all. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraddark View Post
    I imagine Malfurion would understand the situation a little better than that. Saurfang did go against the Warchief's orders and spare his life.
    Malfurion, maybe, Tyrande? not so much (have in mind that in her mind, she had the chance to kill Saurfang when she got to Malfurion, she even have a small dialogue regretting that she did not put an arrow through his skull)

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    Does the monarchy of Stormwind keep with rex non potest peccare? If so, Anduin literally can't betray Stormwind. Since Blizz likes to have it both ways on the King of Stormwind's status above the other Alliance races I can't even try there.

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    It's time for Taelia to pull an Arthas, stab Anduin and take the throne
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    Anduin did the Warcraft version of a royal pardon by releasing Saurfang - something completely within his right as a king. It also serves to disassemble the Horde from within, which we see happening right away in 8.1.

    You don't have to agree with the decision, but it would help to understand how pardons work (and that impeachment is usually a term for presidents, not kings).
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