Cloud Based gaming...

[Jotunhammer]

I ran across this expression today and I was curious...
anyone know or can speculate if me (in Sweden) would be able to connect to Shadow servers in Germany or UK
how much of a latency would I get, when I (normally) have around 35-50 playing any game.
and also, is it worth 45 euros?

I am thinking of running it on my new system, and laptop, and android and connect that to my TV
the thing that draws me to it is the simplicity of switching between platforms and still be able to play

so anyone that can give me hands on info, I would be very happy.

[fatgunn]

I don't know any of the specifics but don't do it with WoW, you can get banned.

[Temp name]

WoW has previously banned people for using cloud based gaming solutions, since it *technically* is sharing your account info with a 3rd party.

As for if it's worth it in general: If you don't have the money to build a pc and you don't mind the latency bump (they claim 5-10ms, I claim bullshit), sure

[Jalatiphra]

the latency claims of 5-10 ms are complete bullshit

its about 100 ms at best . it sucks for everything but strategy games which are turn based.
i dont know how anybody thinks this is a good service.

[Temp name]

the latency claims of 5-10 ms are complete bullshit

its about 100 ms at best . it sucks for everything but strategy games which are turn based.
i dont know how anybody thinks this is a good service.

100ms is a bit high. I'd buy 30-50. It depends heavily on where you live and the data centers are.

[Jalatiphra]

30-50 is the normal ping you have to a game server, 20- if you're near.
that excludes taking your input, calculating the next frame, compress it and transfer it back in the cloud scenario


Please comprehend that in order for a cloud based game to inform you about the new state after your input. it takes another round trip.
While when playing locally you only do one roundtrip to get the result of your input.

=>

You make an action
it gets tranferred
applied to the game
you get however most likely a frame back from the stream which is not yet reflecting your current input
you do another action
it gets tranferrred
applied to the game
and you get back the frame representing the change of the previous input not the current one.

Why dont you get the frame back immediatly?
because you need a few frames buffered to provide a smooth experience - smooth not "lagfree"

thats why its 100 ms input delay
probably your ping is 50 yes.
but input delay is what you're interested in when doing cloud based gaming.

[Temp name]

30-50 is the normal ping you have to a game server, 20- if you're near.
that excludes taking your input, calculating the next frame, compress it and transfer it back in the cloud scenario


Please comprehend that in order for a cloud based game to inform you about the new state after your input. it takes another round trip.
While when playing locally you only do one roundtrip to get the result of your input.

=>

You make an action
it gets tranferred
applied to the game
you get however most likely a frame back from the stream which is not yet reflecting your current input
you do another action
it gets tranferrred
applied to the game
and you get back the frame representing the change of the previous input not the current one.

Why dont you get the frame back immediatly?
because you need a few frames buffered to provide a smooth experience - smooth not "lagfree"

thats why its 100 ms input delay
probably your ping is 50 yes.
but input delay is what you're interested in when doing cloud based gaming.

But we're talking about the latency increase from using their service, not overall latency in the system

[xacid]

WoW has previously banned people for using cloud based gaming solutions, since it *technically* is sharing your account info with a 3rd party.

As for if it's worth it in general: If you don't have the money to build a pc and you don't mind the latency bump (they claim 5-10ms, I claim bullshit), sure

Question - how exactly is it sharing your account info? I know for some of the cloud based ones all you are doing is connecting to a VM of windows and launching the game as you would no differently on your PC. You do not give your information out at all.

[Unholyground]

Ya it is unfortunate, I used to stream WoW to my Shield K1 Tablet within my home but apparently you are not allowed to which seems absurd to me.

[Kokolums]

Question - how exactly is it sharing your account info? I know for some of the cloud based ones all you are doing is connecting to a VM of windows and launching the game as you would no differently on your PC. You do not give your information out at all.

I don't think they can tell if you are account sharing or not if you use cloud based gaming, so the safe route is to assume you are and ban you. So, don't use cloud gaming with WoW. There's probably something in the TOS that you agree to run Warden or something and this breaks the Warden clause of your contract? i dunno.

[Yizu]

Ya it is unfortunate, I used to stream WoW to my Shield K1 Tablet within my home but apparently you are not allowed to which seems absurd to me.

I do it all the time with Steam? I stream wow from my desktop to my potato laptop all the time.

[Unholyground]

I do it all the time with Steam? I stream wow from my desktop to my potato laptop all the time.

It is against their ToS now, so if you get caught I think it is like a 3 month ban the first time. Their reasoning is they have no 100% way to guarantee it is you playing and not some asian dude across the world.

[Jalatiphra]

But we're talking about the latency increase from using their service, not overall latency in the system

to phrase it like this it would be : at least twice as big lag than when done locally
which is absolutely unacceptable for me