Malfurion Approved: The Burning of Teldrassil - Sylvanas is not Guilty of a crime.

[vertigo12]

Malfurion Stormrage yells: What horror is this? A tumor of Nightmare infecting a world tree, here in the reflection of the Titans' own playground?
Malfurion Stormrage yells: If this seed takes hold, the roots of its infestation will wind their way into the heart of Azeroth. The Nightmare would devour our world, claiming everything... everyone. This must not come to pass!

Almost all of the world trees have been dealt with except Hyjal iinm and... Teldrassil.

So Sylvanas was ahead of the curve and several miles away from the rest of the community. If ever there comes a time that Teldrassil will be corrupted by the Nightmare and take note, it never is not invulnerable nor we can conclude we have indeed stopped the true source of Nightmare since N'Zoth is still alive and about to be unleashed upon us with his very own prison break.

Even Andrassil or now Vordrassil which is now a tree stump housing Grizzly Hill Furlborgs manifested a corrupted version of it thereby infesting the Bear Wild God Ursoc.

Could the entity which will be corrupted in that World Tree be no other than Malfurion Himself?!

To wrap things up here's Varimathras line prior to pre-BfA event:
"When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late.
It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you."

Red with Betrayal: Delaryn Summermoon and Sira Moonwarden
Holy place burn: Teldrassil, Temple of Elune
Shattered mask hangs above your hearth: Darkshore

[Trassk]

Well this isn't reaching.

Stop pretending the b**ch queen had some greater motive then just being a b**ch

[vertigo12]

Well this isn't reaching.

Stop pretending the b**ch queen had some greater motive then just being a b**ch

I bet you have done Emerald Nightmare several times and you are pretty familiar with Malfurion's quote on Il'gynoth.

In real life we might see someone else's perspective of being a b!tch but it might be only skin deep.

[Sarange]

Well this isn't reaching.

Stop pretending the b**ch queen had some greater motive then just being a b**ch

Well, she did.

[Deleted]

Well, she did.

If you honestly think that she had a superior motive when burning the Tree other than being hurr durr evil, then you are simply deluded.

[Xykotic]

I bet you have done Emerald Nightmare several times and you are pretty familiar with Malfurion's quote on Il'gynoth.

In real life we might see someone else's perspective of being a b!tch but it might be only skin deep.

I've done Emerald Nightmare more than I'm comfortable with and was really excited about the prospect of an old god expansion after Legion and followed all the lore discussions and datamining at length.

She's just evil, man. This isn't deep storytelling. Her long term plan is to complete the Lich King's plan, but with her as the leader. Turn everyone into undead under her rule. That way they can go on forever as a unified front against whatever threatens her personally. She fears her own death so much she would destroy Azeroth and live itself to avoid it.

Now watch as she becomes the villain with the Horde ultimately rallying around a returned Saurfang/Thrall rebellion like in MoP. She becomes desperate and takes old god powers blah blah, we already did this in MoP.

Its only meant to be "cool" set pieces when you're just coasting through it and not really paying attention like most players that either just skips all cutscenes and dialogue. This expansion is for them.

[vertigo12]

I've done Emerald Nightmare more than I'm comfortable with and was really excited about the prospect of an old god expansion after Legion and followed all the lore discussions and datamining at length.

She's just evil, man. This isn't deep storytelling. Her long term plan is to complete the Lich King's plan, but with her as the leader. Turn everyone into undead under her rule. That way they can go on forever as a unified front against whatever threatens her personally. She fears her own death so much she would destroy Azeroth and live itself to avoid it.

Now watch as she becomes the villain with the Horde ultimately rallying around a returned Saurfang/Thrall rebellion like in MoP. She becomes desperate and takes old god powers blah blah, we already did this in MoP.

Its only meant to be "cool" set pieces when you're just coasting through it and not really paying attention like most players that either just skips all cutscenes and dialogue. This expansion is for them.

You know why he wanted Malfuriom dead? The moment when Malfurion becomes corrupted and become the enemy of life itself, it might be too late for all the living since he has access to wild gods= wild gods are corruptable including his Shando which he already surpassed. The Emerald Dream= It is pretty much in it's weakest state the wild gods are recovering and the dragon aspect who is supposed to be protecting that realm is wandering aimlessly and being drawn into a void flower.

The question is, would all the heroes of Azeroth be prepared enough to face Malfurion in his evil incarnate form and become the personification of Nightmare itself in Azeroth? He has been dreaming for several years, who knows if N'Zoth visits him in his nightmares.

Malfurion is dangerous once he becomes a public enemy no.1 of Azeroth far worse than Azshara. He has command on all Night Elven soul and he can use them at will.

All he has to do is drain every Night Elf alive to their husk and sacrifice them then command their wisp soul to attack anybody on his whim. He was able to take down a Lieutenant of the Burning Legion and caused Hyjal to burn itself once and he can surely cause such effect on any place he wanted to strike at.

Everybody weak enough will be put to sleep and succumb to the nightmare and becomes a mindless puppet no different from the scourge which the new lich king is taking control of. They will without a doubt attack their own allies and believe it to be their enemies. Isn't that any different from being a mindless undead zombie?
From Stormrage novel:

"Curiously, only then did Malfurion truly sense that the ancient evil, though it fought to keep its grip there, did so from somewhere deep in the depths of Azeroth's own seas.[2]"

When seeping into rivers, the Nightmare can corrupt aquatic life.[15]

[valax]

If you honestly think that she had a superior motive when burning the Tree other than being hurr durr evil, then you are simply deluded.

Have you even read "a good war"? the decision to burn the tree doesn't come near to simply being evil hurr durr.
The horde HAD to hinder the night elven army capability of sustaining a war against them , the plan was executing the leaders and capturing the city .
Varok failed in his job so the alternative was A) retreat and face war against NE backed by the alliance in territory near the Horde capital
B) eradicate the threat as planned one way or the other.

[vertigo12]

Have you even read "a good war"? the decision to burn the tree doesn't come near to simply being evil hurr durr.
The horde HAD to hinder the night elven army capability of sustaining a war against them , the plan was executing the leaders and capturing the city .
Varok failed in his job so the alternative was A) retreat and face war against NE backed by the alliance in territory near the Horde capital
B) eradicate the threat as planned one way or the other.

Thus the title A GOOD WAR. It was not meant to be a war just to colonize, or out of malice or even just for shtz n" giggles.

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But we know that her burning Teldrassil wasn't the plan, killing Malfurion was. She burned it because she wanted to strike a massive blow against the Night Elves, so how could she be "ahead of the curve" of everyone else when she burned it on a whim? Watching how increasingly ridiculous sylvanas fans have to get to justify her actions the further into BFA we get is amazing.

The game of generals ends when you capture the flag "Teldrassil" and you use your spy to take down ★,★★,★★★,★★★★ and 5★ generals.

[Doffen]

Thus the title A GOOD WAR. It was not meant to be a war just to colonize, or out of malice or even just for shtz n" giggles.

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The game of generals ends when you capture the flag "Teldrassil" and you use your spy to take down ★,★★,★★★,★★★★ and 5★ generals.

The title is more for Saurfang than Sylvanas. Saurfang wanted it to be a war to save the Horde. He agreed with Sylvanas that this war made sense for them but he wanted to go to war and fight, but without killing lots of innocent people.

[KaPe]

So, even following this faulty logic of tree still being corrupted even though the Aspects should have dealt with that already ... what about the inhabitants? Killing all of them was "necessary" too? And why exactly aren't we murdering all the orcs - they were sucking off Mannoroth just a few years ago, surely there's also the risk of corruption. Sylvanas herself was under the control of the Lich King, better get rid of her too before she relapses. (well, it might be too late for that)

Plus it follows the usual trend of of "Demon/Void being tells us something? It must be true, they are well known for being honest and deeply caring about mortals, never manipulating us for their own ends."

[vertigo12]

So, even following this faulty logic of tree still being corrupted even though the Aspects should have dealt with that already ... what about the inhabitants? Killing all of them was "necessary" too? And why exactly aren't we murdering all the orcs - they were sucking off Mannoroth just a few years ago, surely there's also the risk of corruption. Sylvanas herself was under the control of the Lich King, better get rid of her too before she relapses. (well, it might be too late for that)

Plus it follows the usual trend of of "Demon/Void being tells us something? It must be true, they are well known for being honest and deeply caring about mortals, never manipulating us for their own ends."

There is a duality in between Light and Shadow void.

You have known the Shadow as nothing but horrors. The Shadow sees the Light in the same way. Neither viewpoint is true. Neither is wrong." The roar of the Void nearly drowned him out. The masters of the Void were clawing at her mind. She barely fought them off. "The Light seeks one path and shuns all others as lies. The Shadow seeks every possible path and sees them all as truth."

Even using death, pain, sacrifice. Whatever the cost.

[steelballfc]

no
/10char

[Scottyjscizzle]

Well, she did.

Exactly to genocide the night elves.

[Trassk]

Something sylvanas fans need to accept but can't, is that she as a character is doomed by design.

If she had remained just the leader of the forsaken, then she could have gone on longer having someone in a more powerful position to her keeping her in line. Her fans should have been worried from the go about her becoming warchief, because without someone over her to keep her in check, it allowed all the worst aspect of a character like her to come to the forefront unopposed by anyone above her.

[vertigo12]

Something sylvanas fans need to accept but can't, is that she as a character is doomed by design.

If she had remained just the leader of the forsaken, then she could have gone on longer having someone in a more powerful position to her keeping her in line. Her fans should have been worried from the go about her becoming warchief, because without someone over her to keep her in check, it allowed all the worst aspect of a character like her to come to the forefront unopposed by anyone above her.

In every character there has to be improvement of character or making it worse. A Deus ex machina transformation if you must. Arthas was dead. Bolvar the Lich King is simply Frozen and in a somewhay passive state. Anduin is now past his adolescene and now in the phase of man-doing up. Tyrande as well. Even Sylvanas.

[cparle87]

Well this isn't reaching.

Stop pretending the b**ch queen had some greater motive then just being a b**ch

"Stop trying to find logic and motives in the events of this video game. The company is too stupid to actually make a story everything is so shallow she's just a mindless evil lol accept it and hate on it like everyone else."
This is you.

[Oneirophobia]

Well, she did.

I don’t have enough faith in Blizz to write a more interesting story than the extremely obvious “dead lady bad.”

With the reveal that Vol’jin was tricked into designating Sylvanas and there is no real, utilitarian purpose for her being warchief it’s almost certainly going the Garrosh route again.

[grexly75]

Something sylvanas fans need to accept but can't, is that she as a character is doomed by design.

If she had remained just the leader of the forsaken, then she could have gone on longer having someone in a more powerful position to her keeping her in line. Her fans should have been worried from the go about her becoming warchief, because without someone over her to keep her in check, it allowed all the worst aspect of a character like her to come to the forefront unopposed by anyone above her.

And especially now that there is one theory with the bit between Vol'jin and Sylvanas in that the whispering's to Vol'jin by the so called spirits, now points to it possibly being N'Zoth telling Vol'jin to make Sylvanas warchief..

[Deleted]

Well, she did.

No it was VERY CLEAR. her motive. She wanted to break the night elves Morale and hope. When the devasting attack did not break their spirit she Burned their City / home and most of all their people.
WHERE did she see anything more? it was made VERY clear, why she did it