The question makes little sense. Varian died so BfA could happen. Blizzard already had the general story laid out at that point.
Even if he had somehow survived Broken Shore, they'd just have killed him off shortly afterwards anyway.
Well, yes and no. The question here was whether BfA would've been the same and I honestly believe it wouldn't have because Varian wouldn't act like Anduin nor would Sylvanas act the same way towards Varian as she does towards Anduin. There would be some differences, primarily because I both Varian and Vol'jin were killed at Legion's beginning to pave the way for BfA.
My position is of course based on what we knew of each character before BfA (in Varian's case, Legion) and I'm fully aware that the lore rarely meets our expectations (even when it involves a book describing her intentions got released right before the expansion).
Last edited by Magnagarde; 2018-12-09 at 03:34 AM.
no, nothing would have stopped this fanfiction of a plot.
thrash writing is thrash writing regardless what characters are involved.
Varian's badass but he's not Goku. He has no powers. He's just a dude with a sword.
I have been waiting for nixxiom to do a what if about this.
1. Legion itself would have been entirely different. Odyn would have found a champion and Varian would have led assaults.
2. If he lived the banshee queen would be too afraid to attack.
3. Jaina would have never left the alliance.
4. Upon reaching kul tiras the queen would have allied herself with Varian.
5. Sylvanas would kill the boy
"im not a sylvanas fan boy"
"sylvanas is as powerful as a millennia old space and time traveling priest and the dude who stood in as the earth warder"
on topic: we have had this topic before. the novel before the storm has the answer. and its leaning towards a no.
Last edited by Minikin; 2018-12-09 at 09:02 AM.
Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)
Now that you mention it not only jaina would have stayed in the kirin tor but also genn wouldn't have attacked sylvanas, but then no one would stop sylvanas from getting infinite valkyr and power, so that means that she could create an army by herself.
it seems like the story could have taken a really different direction.
The Alliance is a heavyweight and the Horde is a featherweight, at best. Varian being alive wouldn't have changed anything, as the only reason Sylvanas won in Ashenvale is because of a blitzkrieg type attack, if it was a fair fight the Horde would have lost, as we see in the battle for lordaeron and in 8.1 with the Zandalari losing both its powerful leader and its navi and the Horde not even managing to maintain the foothold on Darkshore against the small Worgen/Night Elf Alliance force. I don't see Varian releasing Saurfang, though. Varian also wouldn't have a foot in the door with Baine, as Anduin does, which will probably become part of the plot again at some point.
sylvanas seemed to respect varian quite a bit if we go with their dialogue at the broken shore . she acknowledge his strengh and respect him as an ennemy .
also Genn probably wouldn't had pulled his attack against her if varian gave the order to stay put .
therefore i don't think sylvanas would started the war if he was still alive , or at least , not one of that scale .
Power is not based on how long you have lived.
I mean maybe you think it is but it really isn't.
Power can be obtained in mere seconds and also can be lost in that same time.
You are just butthurd cause blizzard decided to make her this powerful.
I mean you can be mad all you want fact is she is powerful regardless if you like it or not.
More crying from the alliance because Varian isn't one shotting everything
There is no way in fuck Sylv would risk getting into an all out war with Varian, i doubt any horde(or alliance) leader ever would, the only reason sylv attacked now is because anduin is untested and greymane is too pissed off to think clearly, people like to downplay Varian but he was arguably the strongest racial leader out of any race and commanded more respect than voljin or thrall, not to mention he would of set jaina loose from the beginning rather than limiting her to a pseudo ambassador to kul'tiras.
The storyline for BFA is a mess but the way varian has been written he would of probably marched on undercity then gone straight to org, but the timeline is a mess at the moment and without reasoning and "What ifs" it's very very doubtful she'd have the balls to bait varian into open war.
Before the Storm states that Sylvanas wouldn't have started a war with the Alliance if Varian was still alive, so no.
Varian and Garrosh actually fought each other in the novel Wolfheart. They fought until Garrosh was exhausted and got disarmed by Varian. A dying magnataur separated them, and likely saved Garrosh's life. The book also states that Varian was still full of stamina.
It isn't really up for debate that Varian was a bigger threat on the battlefield than Anduin is. Sylvanas may have had a much harder time fighting Varian than people think.