What do you do when culture is the only persistent factor?

[Deleted]

Today's news: a 16 year old shot dead at her school by a 31 year old. Because she dared abandon him.

While sad n all, this happens on a daily basis all across Europe. And while I haven't stated names yet, I know most of your guts already know this guy ain't named Jan or Dave. And you are right.

Somehow this shit always happens in the same culture. And I'm curious as to what's the solution. No, we cant say a culture sucks ass or is filled with regressive cucks, that makes us racist. We cant forbid cultures. We cant force our own.

But what if culture is the only consistent factor in these incidents? Western civilization always talks about battling the source rather than the symptoms.

Is there something at all we can do? Or can we only just accept that some cultures dont adapt and are here to stay and we should just accept that brings the occasional deaths because the culture is in "its adolescent years?"

It's not age. It's not socio economics. Its not even country or religion. What can you do if culture is the only consistent factor in certain incidents?

[NED funded]

Oooh boooy this thread is going places. But to answer your question, just continue enforcing laws and promoting stronger programs to encourage people denouncing.

Only European countries seem to be having this problem, so maybe its European culture the problem?? /s

[Revi]

While it's not the entire solution, preventing the formation of ghettos when settling immigrants is a major step towards watering down the culture they bring with them and getting rid of the most incompatible parts of it.

[PC2]

The solution is to criticize all cultural ideas and traditions that aren't universal. The key is don't be timid about it. I'd much rather be correct and get an infraction, rather than be wrong and praised.

For example Santa Claus is made up, Bible is nonsense, Prophet Muhammad was a pedo criminal, Chinese culture contains many types of idiocy like religious ancestor worship and Qi spirit medicine.

Anybody who thinks this is "hate speech" doesn't respect culture, they actually hate good culture.

[PACOX]

Pedophiles arent exclusive to one culture, neither are people who can't deal with separation. Look for warning and prosecute them as they come. Singling out one group of people as the only ones with the problem is...eh you know what I'm going to say.

[Cerilis]

I actually thought this was about America after reading the first line.

Also, I kiiiinda doubt this happens "on a daily basis". Even in the US.

[PC2]

Oooh boooy this thread is going places. But to answer your question, just continue enforcing laws and promoting stronger programs to encourage people denouncing.

Only European countries seem to be having this problem, so maybe its European culture the problem?? /s

Yes it's sort of a European cultural problem, but it's mainly because Europe was the first to realize that culture in the traditional sense is almost entirely wrong and arbitrary. Until roughly 1700 there was almost zero skepticism of culture.

[Deleted]

Its not even country or religion. What can you do if culture is the only consistent factor in certain incidents?

Culture and religion generally go hand in hand, though. Not always, but most of the time they do.

Cultures have two layers. There's a superficial layer, which consists of things such as language, clothing, arts and cuisine. These are often shaped by local circumstances, but they are all secondary and can be changed or adapted easily when necessary.

Then there's a deeper layer. This determines the culture's and the individual's moral code -- who and what they are. Their values and behaviour, the understanding of right and wrong, good and evil. This layer is heavily tied to religion and its teachings. And this layer is extremely difficult to change, because it is being programmed into people from the day of their birth. By the age of 20, a person's baseline moral code is pretty much locked up already, and won't change without some great personal awakening.

People who are shallow and superficial themselves generally don't understand the deeper layer of even their own culture. That's why we have people like cultural relativists and multiculturalists who only see the superficial things -- skin color, clothing, language etc. -- and, being generally extremely self-centered, they assume that that's also all that everyone else sees. They are incapable of seeing through the surface and understanding people's real motives.

[Dezerte]

I think segregation is the biggest factor, the forming of mini-societies within society, the "us vs. them" etc. A rapid and large influx of refugees created a huge strain on society, leading to the inadvertent creation of more "ghettos" leading to more segregation; more resentment; more self-segregation - a downward spiral that feeds on itself.

[PACOX]

Culture and religion generally go hand in hand, though. Not always, but most of the time they do.

Cultures have two layers. There's a superficial layer, which consists of things such as language, clothing, arts and cuisine. These are often shaped by local circumstances, but they are all secondary and can be changed or adapted easily when necessary.

Then there's a deeper layer. This determines the culture's and the individual's moral code -- who and what they are. Their values and behaviour, the understanding of right and wrong, good and evil. This layer is heavily tied to religion and its teachings. And this layer is extremely difficult to change.

People who are shallow and superficial themselves generally don't understand the deeper layer of even their own culture.

Catholics have an enormous problem with gay pedophiles. Evangelicals tend to harbor all types of freaky perverts. Should that be an excuse to hate anyone who is a Western Christian?

[Deleted]

Catholics have an enormous problem with gay pedophiles. Evangelicals tend to harbor all types of freaky perverts. Should that be an excuse to hate anyone who is a Western Christian?

The people you mentioned are acting directly against the teachings of Christ himself, who really didn't think very highly of pedos or any other jerks who hurt others. So, essentially they are "not real Christians".

In contrast, Islamic groups like ISIS directly follow the teachings and personal example of Muhammed himself.

[PC2]

Catholics have an enormous problem with gay pedophiles. Evangelicals tend to harbor all types of freaky perverts. Should that be an excuse to hate anyone who is a Western Christian?

Hate the culture that caused it. Which in this case Catholic culture bans priests from sex which is what causes a lot of pedophilia. If they could get married and have sex with their wife or have non-marital sex this wouldn't be a major issue.

The people you mentioned are acting directly against the teachings of Christ himself, who really didn't think very highly of pedos or any other jerks who hurt others. So, essentially they are "not real Christians".

In contrast, Islamic groups like ISIS directly follow the teachings and personal example of Muhammed himself.

The teaching is what creates the rules which causes the problem though. Which Christian teachings cause problems too, even if they are less directly obvious.

[s_bushido]

This is the story you try to use to make that point? It wasn't even an honor killing, the thing you people love to bang on about. Sounds more like a domestic incident involving a deranged piece of shit with boundary issues.

[Coolthulhu]

What can you do if culture is the only consistent factor in certain incidents?

Turn a blind eye or hysterically deny such a link, losing any and all credibility in the process. So members of certain groups should always be referred to as mentally ill, and their religion and origin never mentioned, which of course would not apply to anyone outside said groups. Meanwhile, try and pain anyone outside those groups as being as vile as possible, or elicit guilt within them.

[Noxx79]

Turn a blind eye or hysterically deny such a link, losing any and all credibility in the process. So members of certain groups should always be referred to as mentally ill, and their religion and origin never mentioned, which of course would not apply to anyone outside said groups. Meanwhile, try and pain anyone outside those groups as being as vile as possible, or elicit guilt within them.

Why do you have white Christians so much?

[Nihilist74]

Sounds like what rednecks would do in the American south eastern states.

[s_bushido]

So members of certain groups should always be referred to as mentally ill, and their religion and origin never mentioned, which of course would not apply to anyone outside said groups.

roflmao

What does it feel like to lack any semblance of self-awareness? Does it hurt?

[Shadowferal]

Dutch student, 16, shot dead in school’s bicycle shed

A 16-year-old girl was shot dead in front of fellow students in her high school’s bicycle shed Tuesday, Dutch police said.

A 31-year-old suspect, police said in a statement, was arrested shortly after the shooting at the school, which was identified by local media as Rotterdam Design College.

Police said the victim and the male suspect, who was arrested about two kilometers (a mile and a half) away, knew one another but didn’t reveal details of their relationship or a possible motive.

A number of people, including fellow students, witnessed the attack, police spokeswoman Yvette de Rave told national broadcaster NOS.

The shooting happened less than a week after an American psychology student at Rotterdam’s Erasmus University was fatally stabbed in her apartment. A suspect in her killing was arrested last week.

Gun ownership is tightly restricted in the Netherlands and most shootings that happen in the country are linked to power struggles between criminal gangs.

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Not seeing the "culture" issue here.
Maybe the OP can shed some light here...hello? Is this thing on?

[Deleted]

misogyny and criminality are persistant across all 'cultures'.

Also why dogwhistle, say what you mean you coward.

[Coolthulhu]

roflmao

What does it feel like to lack any semblance of self-awareness? Does it hurt?

I see you got hissy after your exact modus operandi described by myself. That's good.

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Why do you have white Christians so much?

Except that "white" is the first thing they mention whenever something happens, often stretching the meaning of white hilariously in order to paint the "white people bad" picture, so try again.