Trump's wall is a "manhood thing" - Pelosi

[Mormolyce]

Pelosi privately disses Trump’s manhood after White House meeting
The House minority leader told Democrats that Trump’s push for the border wall is ‘a manhood thing.’

Nancy Pelosi was on fire with her fellow Democrats.

Minutes after a very public showdown with Donald Trump on Tuesday over his border wall with Mexico, the House minority leader returned to the Capitol and railed against the president in a private meeting with her colleagues.

Trump “must have said the word ‘wall’ 30 times,” the California Democrat said, according to multiple sources in the room.

“I was trying to be the mom,” Pelosi added, but “it goes to show you: You get into a tinkle contest with a skunk, you get tinkle all over you.”

And then, she went for the most sensitive part of Trump’s ego.

“It’s like a manhood thing with him — as if manhood can be associated with him,” Pelosi deadpanned. “This wall thing.”

Congressional Democrats are feeling smug — and actually a little excited — for the looming shutdown fight with the president after Tuesday’s Oval Office meeting.

The president may have decided at the last minute to open up the entire negotiation session to the public to throw Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York off their game. But in the end, Democrats feel confident that their leaders came out ahead.

Trump, Democrats argue, fell into a trap the minute he took ownership of what Pelosi has dubbed “the Trump shutdown.” Absent a bipartisan agreement on Trump’s border wall, about a quarter of the government will run out of money on Dec. 21.

But instead of finger-pointing, as Republicans and Democrats usually do during spending standoffs, Trump said he wanted to close the government and said he wouldn't even try to pass the blame.

"If we don't get what we want ... I will shut down the government,” Trump said in the Oval Office before a room full of reporters and TV cameras. “I am proud to shut down the government for border security. ... I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I won't blame you for it."

The remarks left Republicans on the Hill perplexed. Even some Democrats scratched their heads. But the comments, Democrats say, work to their benefit. Their leaders look like the only reasonable adults at the table: They were the only side arguing that a government shutdown is a bad thing.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...eeting-1057607

Might explain his difficulty in getting it erected.

This right after she and Schumer baited Trump into a trap on the shutdown. They walked away from that meeting like the CSI Miami music was playing in the background:

[Redwyrm]

And that's why she was and will be House Majority Leader

[Mormolyce]

Reminder: probably not a coincidence.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-their-manhood

[Dontrike]

"I can totally get it up, just watch." -Trump

[draynay]

Good luck getting Mexico to help with that.

[Theodarzna]

Letting in an unlimited number of people for resettlement because you feel bad must be a womanhood thing. We have to be ever vigilant against the downsides of our own brains.

[Eveningforest]

Throwing briefing papers all over the place because an old lady outsmarted you is histrionics.

[Independent voter]

It's good politics for Trump.

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

[Moonstream]

That picture says so much. Like that should just be the default reply to anyone trying to say that Trump won anything in that discussion.

They got exactly what they wanted.

Mission: Success *que the music*

[Redwyrm]

That picture says so much. Like that should just be the default reply to anyone trying to say that Trump won anything in that discussion.

They got exactly what they wanted.

Mission: Success *que the music*

Someone needs to photoshop her walking away from a massive explosion

[Bullettime]

It's good politics for Trump.

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

The wall is a stupid ineffective waste of money, is nothing more than a symbol of racism for people too ignorant to know why it won't work, and is absolutely not supported by the majority of Americans. Trump didn't even win the popular vote and his support has only dropped. Republicans are doubling down on him but Democrats hate him and his antics have lost him the support of independents.

But as to the topic, Schumer and Pelosi embarrassed him. Even right wing personalities like Carlson and Coulter are starting to turn and admitting he's not effective and is making himself look awful in these recent meetings, especially after admitting the next shutdown will be on him.

[Breccia]

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

*ahem*

Are you talking about this poll, this poll, this poll, this poll, this poll, this poll, this poll, or my new favorite, this poll from Dec 11th?

I'll quote that last one.

By a 21-point margin — 57 percent to 36 percent — Americans think the president should compromise on the wall to avoid a government shutdown, rather than stand firm. About two-thirds of Republicans say the opposite, and the president has been focused on maintaining his base.

Sorry, you were saying? Something about misrepresenting the situation? Please, continue.

[Grapemask]

It's good politics for Trump.

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

The definition of "most" has apparently changed. Only 37% of Americans stand with Trump on this. And while conservatives are quick to hop on an outlier poll that suggests 51% of Americans support a wall (an outlier that only managed a 1% majority at that), they suddenly clam up when we bring up the majority of polls that typically indicate more than 60% of Americans are outright opposed to the wall and other Trump immigration policies, not to mention the 10s of percents that don't care.

Edit: Breccia wins the poll link game!

[Orange Joe]

It's good politics for Trump.

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

Where are you getting most Americans from? Most Americans that voted didn't vote for him?

[Adam Jensen]

Stephen Colbert joined in on the fun:

[Breccia]

Breccia wins the poll link game!

I play better when I have good competition. Highfive!

Yes, that most recent poll, by virtue of it being juuuuuuuuuuuuuust a touch before the Trumper Tantrum, is easily the winner. Not only does it have the most recent information (until, you know, Trumper Tantrum), it also has results very specific to the task at hand. One poll from June doesn't overrule the ones I posted spread out all over the rest of the year. @SpinningRims has nothing but his feelings, and you don't bring feelings to a fact-fight. You end up fact in the ass.

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Stephen Colbert joined in on the fun:

I wish I had writers. Then I could come up with jokes like "Trump wanted his manhood the Wall to be partially transparent, so you could see when something was thrown over it, to keep people from being hurt. Makes sense. Someone threw a porn star over his manhood and he's about to be sent to prison for it."

[cubby]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...eeting-1057607

Might explain his difficulty in getting it erected.

This right after she and Schumer baited Trump into a trap on the shutdown. They walked away from that meeting like the CSI Miami music was playing in the background:

Maybe they should hire porn stars to "build" it.

[Theodarzna]

And tying immigration to a border wall must be an idiot thing. But who is counting. . .

I don't believe we should resettle every sad person on the planet who demands entry.

[Felya]

I don't believe we should resettle every sad person on the planet who demands entry.

What if we do it after building a wall?

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And tying immigration to a border wall must be an idiot thing. But who is counting. . .

I don’t think a wall can keep British refugees out. We need a dome, that goes 1000 feed down.

[draynay]

It's good politics for Trump.

If the democrats want to go against the wishes of most Americans, they're free to do so.

The government shouldn't do stupid things just because some people are stupid. The Wall is stupid, thinking it will magically create immigration reform is stupid. Thinking people who are against The Wall are also against immigration reform is stupid. Non-stupid people would be in favor of practical policy, not impractical vanity projects.