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Jail sentences of six months or less should be scrapped, according to the prisons minister.
Rory Stewart has said the move would ease pressure on prisons and be better for offenders.
In comments reported by The Daily Telegraph, he said that "very short" jail terms were "long enough to damage you and not long enough to heal you".
He added: "You bring somebody in for three or four weeks, they lose their house, their job, their family, their reputation.
https://news.sky.com/story/minister-...onths-11605258
There is a line that Judges cross when they sentence someone to prison for six months. Was the crime severe enough? If the crime was severe, then jail, if not, probation.
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2019-01-12, 03:15 PM #1The Undying
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UK: Scrap prison sentences of less than six months
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2019-01-12, 03:23 PM #2The Insane
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Harmless crimes, sure... violent ones, such as by delinquents, need to be harsher. Too often minor white collar crimes get punished harshly where as violent delinquents, as in teens, get a slap on the wrist... especially if they are of a certain "under-privileged" background.
Crimes of people that have accumulated 50+ convictions running around? Beyond a joke...Last edited by Daedius; 2019-01-12 at 03:29 PM.
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2019-01-12, 03:37 PM #3Blademaster
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Sure, you could release thieves and others who broke minor laws, but if they somehow break a law again within 5 years, they should be sentenced to ten years of prison.
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2019-01-12, 03:38 PM #4Banned
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The USA has laws like that. To say they are dumb is an understatement.
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So no, go post stupid shit somewhere else please.
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2019-01-12, 03:45 PM #5Blademaster
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Five-star argument right there. Originally Posted by Deja Thoris
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2019-01-12, 03:53 PM #6Banned
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My bad, I didn't expect to have to explain the bleeding obvious to you. Originally Posted by Alphaorc
Are you one of those people who claims grass is blue and then claims victory when the other person doesn't prove it isnt?
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2019-01-12, 03:53 PM #7Herald of the Titans
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The alternative to prison is community service and that unfortunately has no sense of punishment, all they do is put the vest on and slack for few hours. So, unless they come up with good alternative, prison is the only way to deal with scum.
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2019-01-12, 04:05 PM #8Blademaster
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I guess ill make it more humane: Those who are sentenced to prison should have a chance to be released, but they have to write their signature that they wont break a law that results in prison once again within a time period, or they will be punished again for the maximum duration. Originally Posted by Deja Thoris
USA just proves that criminals never changes, despite being at risk of being sentenced to life, criminal people keep breaking the law over and over again.
Sweden usually have criminals getting released much earlier, and its not really that rare to see criminals under the age of 30 with a list of laws being broken being longer than the essays i wrote for my school.
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2019-01-12, 06:49 PM #9The Unstoppable Force
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Makes sense, if there’s no rehabilitation benefits to it.
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That wouldn’t benefit any one it would just turn minor offenders into more of a problem after spending years and years in jail and coming out with nothing. Originally Posted by Alphaorc
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This is a joke right? The us isn’t a standard for prisons as it’s not and never has been about rehabilitation it might as well be a 3rd world country in that regard. Originally Posted by Alphaorc
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2019-01-12, 06:54 PM #10Stood in the Fire
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You have literally just described the perfect inverse of the American justice system. What's it like living wherever you live? Originally Posted by Daedius
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2019-01-12, 07:29 PM #11The Insane
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Ireland. Justice system here is a bloody joke. Murder someone? 4 years, less on good behaviour... Originally Posted by zebreck
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2019-01-12, 07:32 PM #12I am Murloc!
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UK already has something like that, but like...functional. Suspended sentences exist. Originally Posted by Alphaorc
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2019-01-12, 07:34 PM #13Legendary!
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No idea about the justice system in UK, but here in Germany the overwhelming majority of prison sentences with one year or less are for probation or house arrest.
There are practically only youth sentences with such short times (in specialized prisons) and people who failed their probation.
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2019-01-12, 07:42 PM #14Herald of the Titans
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That's preposterous, burglars should be given extremely harsh sentences, not spared jail time. The UK really can't seem to make a single sensible decision as of late.Around 30,000 offenders a year including some burglars and most shoplifters could be spared jail under the proposals.
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2019-01-12, 09:13 PM #15The Unstoppable Force
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Similar in Finland as well. Rape or kill someone and you get a slap on your wrist. Commit a fraud or some other crime involving money - sit in prison for 10+ years and be in debt for the rest of your life. Originally Posted by zebreck
It's a god damn joke. Originally Posted by derpkitteh
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2019-01-12, 09:24 PM #16Herald of the Titans
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WTF? xD Here you can receive death penalty for murder. Originally Posted by Daedius
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You should have possibility for death penalty for murder. Originally Posted by Puupi
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2019-01-12, 09:25 PM #17Scarab Lord
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Don't people get longer sentances for repeat crimes?
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2019-01-12, 09:26 PM #18The Unstoppable Force
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Here you can actually get repeat discounts. Originally Posted by Dundebuns
True story. Originally Posted by derpkitteh
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2019-01-12, 09:34 PM #19Herald of the Titans
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European justice systems in general are a joke. Rapists generally get free passes even when found guilty or they serve tiny sentences. Murders on the same end, a few years tops. Originally Posted by Katie N
Brevik gets to live in almost luxury conditions for doing what he did....
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2019-01-12, 10:22 PM #20Immortal
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Great first step to scrapping prisons.
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