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    So im curious which race stands as the oldest one in wow ? doesn't matter which planet, some people say draenei,arent orcs older ?

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    It's Trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    So im curious which race stands as the oldest one in wow ? doesn't matter which planet, some people say draenei,arent orcs older ?
    I know the oldest race (from Azeroth at least) are the trolls, and I believe they are older than the orcs... I'm not sure about the Draenei, though.

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    draenei are obviously the oldest and as much as night elves look pretty old, trolls are their ancestors so they are not the oldest for sure. if you're looking for extended information, i would open a tab and type ''races of wow'' and continue from there.
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    The Zandalari, as they are the original troll race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntermyth View Post
    draenei are obviously the oldest and as much as night elves look pretty old, trolls are their ancestors so they are not the oldest for sure. if you're looking for extended information, i would open a tab and type ''races of wow'' and continue from there.
    Night elves are just around 15k years old, so aye.

    We also don't know exactly when the Eredar came to be. Might be prior to the Zandalari on Azeroth, or after, we do not know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    So im curious which race stands as the oldest one in wow ? doesn't matter which planet, some people say draenei,arent orcs older ?
    Aggramar reached Draenor after the Titans had left Azeroth to the keepers, not to mention he left to investigate the Death of a constellar, which marked the beginning of the burning crusade. The draenei are the oldest as far as we know.

    Trolls are roughly 16k years old, humans and elves ca 15k etc.
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    Draenei or Trolls. Out of the playable ones at least.

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    Draenei are much older than trolls>night elves.Also,as far as I know draenei came to draenor from argus,they already met orcs over there,so I assume orcs are older than draenei

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    Draenei are much older than trolls>night elves.Also,as far as I know draenei came to draenor from argus,they already met orcs over there,so I assume orcs are older than draenei
    There is no mention when the Eredar (Draenei) first came about, so we don't know if they came before the Trolls on Azeroth or not.

    I highly doubt the Orcs are more ancient than the draenei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    Draenei are much older than trolls>night elves.Also,as far as I know draenei came to draenor from argus,they already met orcs over there,so I assume orcs are older than draenei
    Dreanei come from Argus

    Aggramar had just created his stone giant to reign Draenor in 25k years ago, the eredar had a vast civilization at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    So im curious which race stands as the oldest one in wow ? doesn't matter which planet, some people say draenei,arent orcs older ?
    No, the Draenei are much, much older than the orcs. 25.000 years before the First War, Argus was already the most developed civilization in the cosmos. Whereas the orcs made their first appearance only 800 years before the First War.

    There is no mention when the Eredar (Draenei) first came about, so we don't know if they came before the Trolls on Azeroth or not.
    We do. The trolls first rose to power 16.000 years before the First War. Whereas Archimonde and Kil'jaeden made their deal with Sargears 25.000 years before the First War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleria Windrunner View Post
    No, the Draenei are much, much older than the orcs. 25.000 years before the First War, Argus was already the most developed civilization in the cosmos. Whereas the orcs made their first appearance only 800 years before the First War.



    We do. The trolls first rose to power 16.000 years before the First War. Whereas Archimonde and Kil'jaeden made their deal with Sargears 25.000 years before the First War.
    Uhm, no? The trolls fought the Aqir 16.000 years ago, the Zandalari existed *Far* longer than that.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Zandalari_Empire#History <-- From Chronicles.

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    Oldest race on Azeroth are the trolls. Dreanei aren't from Azeroth so they are excluded from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellis0991 View Post
    Oldest race on Azeroth are the trolls. Dreanei aren't from Azeroth so they are excluded from this.
    In that case, so are Orcs. xD

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    Draenei most likely - they trace their history back more than 30,000 years, and that is just at which the society split into the Draenei and Eredar. It's unknown how much more time passed between the emergence and the Draenei and the height of their civilization when Sargeras came to the Eredar's Triumvirate. Troll history, on the other hand, goes back about 16,000 years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Draenei most likely - they trace their history back more than 30,000 years, and that is just at which the society split into the Draenei and Eredar. It's unknown how much more time passed between the emergence and the Draenei and the height of their civilization when Sargeras came to the Eredar's Triumvirate. Troll history, on the other hand, goes back about 16,000 years or so.
    Why does everyone say this? 16,000 years ago was the Aqir wars, when all other trolls existed. The Zandalari had existed for thousands of years prior to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coo View Post
    Uhm, no? The trolls fought the Aqir 16.000 years ago, the Zandalari existed *Far* longer than that.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Zandalari_Empire#History <-- From Chronicles.
    In literally the same website you linked, it is also stated that the Empire is located on the island of Zandalar, formerly a mountain range where the first trolls settled around over 16,000 years ago and that the Trolls have been around for at least over 15.000 years. While that is impressive, They can't be older than the Eredar, who were already the most advanced civilization in the cosmos 25.000 years prior to the First War.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popikaify View Post
    so I assume orcs are older than draenei
    Velen is older then the orcs as a race.
    let that sink in.

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    Considering Azeroth hasn't even been born yet and it has a history of rapidly evolving species, and the orcs evolutionary line is like: Grond>Breakers>Gronn>Ogron> Ogre Lords> Ogre> Orc, and fact that the Draenei had the most advanced society we ever known about well before any written history of the trolls I'd say the Draenei are the oldest.


    Oldest known date for Trolls is 16,000 years ago(For the Zandalari Empire trolls still existed at least sometime before that) while the Draenei have been fleeing for 25,000 years .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleria Windrunner View Post
    In literally the same website you linked, it is also stated that the Empire is located on the island of Zandalar, formerly a mountain range where the first trolls settled around over 16,000 years ago and that the Trolls have been around for at least over 15.000 years. While that is impressive, They can't be older than the Eredar, who were already the most advanced civilization in the cosmos 25.000 years prior to the First War.
    I didn't claim they were older than the Eredar.

    But we don't know for sure how ancient the Zandalari are, nor the Eredar. But my money is still on the Eredar.

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