Do you support Alliance genocide of Horde races?

[ausoin]

Major battle would occupuing their land and preventing all movement there including civilians by force, destruction of settlement or battle with huge numbers. The quest you pointed out had you kill 6 people.

In game scale is never in lore scale.

It said it on the part talking about forsakens campaigns over silverpine and problmes with Arugal. When Arthas killed his father he became the ruler of lordaeron and he decreed "This kingdom shall fall and from ashes shall rise a new order that will shake the very foundations of the world" thus dismantling the kingdom and making scourge the heir to the area and TFT conflict over Lordaeron(Dreadlords vs Arthas vs Sylvanas) was called civil which was won by sylvanas so by default all of Lordaeron kingdons area belong to sylvanas and so all who live in area who don't bow to her are rebels.

Really now? Because Sylvanas promised to give back the capital to the surviving humans , which she later all killed, so she is a usurper.

Well I have to agree with silverpine hillsbrad area that no major battle happened there until cataclysm, but in arathi even alliance attacked as league of arathi has no place in Arathi as they are rebelling and trying force Galen back into the alliance as an monarch he has everyright to say no to alliance.

League of Arathi are a part of Stormguard, they are Stormguard soldiers in the Leauge headquarters.

So if its not on his own then he didn't wage war and capturing him would be same as capturing a captain from crimes of a general and its immoral to take prisoners of wars as its humiliating they had the right to kill him not capture.

He was Thrall right hand man, he attacked both pre W3 and with Thrall, they had every right to capture him, prisoners of war are legal you know.

Well have you seen any humans who said they were disgusted by kirin tors inhumane experiments on the orcs? It was even more public. Lorewise blood elves had pressence there have you read warcraft comics like warcraft legends? Also we have no indication it is publicly known by forsaken pre cata. Alonsus Faol is a forsaken it was said the he hasn't changed at all from his times as a human but still even he didn't say he was disgusted by blight which proves either 1) gentle morally upright person doesn't care about the blight or 2) they just haven't said as it wouldn't add anything to the narrative as Forsakens are mostly the ssme individuals they were in life. The quest are mostly given by members of forsaken military or the apothecary society and in them only the most psycothic and blindly loyal to sylvanas gain any station and nearly every outside them are like they were in life and military tops is 10% of population.

I dont remember Kirin Tor perfoming any inhumane experiments, give a source for that.
And you do know its likelly those same humans in the arenas are Forsaken now? The Blight was tested in open space in the Undercity, many Forsaken by nature are more evil and cold and cruel, because of the effects of the undeath,

[Terongor]

In game scale is never in lore scale.


Really now? Because Sylvanas promised to give back the capital to the surviving humans , which she later all killed, so she is a usurper.



League of Arathi are a part of Stormguard, they are Stormguard soldiers in the Leauge headquarters.



He was Thrall right hand man, he attacked both pre W3 and with Thrall, they had every right to capture him, prisoners of war are legal you know.



I dont remember Kirin Tor perfoming any inhumane experiments, give a source for that.
And you do know its likelly those same humans in the arenas are Forsaken now? The Blight was tested in open space in the Undercity, many Forsaken by nature are more evil and cold and cruel, because of the effects of the undeath,

Places scale is differant but how many you need to kill is never specified to be scaled down.

So? Garithos fought against "the new order" and never was a member so he doesn't have a say in its land. As sylvanas was a member and won the civil war. Also promises mean nothing if sylvanas gains the right to rule by winninf the civil war.

Technically yes but its not legal to humiliate prisoners of war, neither is executing without a fair trial, forcing a prisoner of war to brake their moral or ethnical codes like not grom a death in battle. Also so interment camps which mistreat their prisoners are illegal after ww2 and specifies its a defensive and an rightheous war if its aim is to free the people from there.

Day of the dragon dalaran mages playing with the orcs fel withrawal. So? As acts of lordaeron are placed on things alliance and humans did good so must we place the wrong done in the area on the alliance on the fault of humanity and alliance. It was tested in open in apothecary quarters and most people historically speaking don't wander around in pre industrialisated cities so its to hide and yeah some have seen experiments yes but they didn't what it was. BtS said some forsakens are more evil, cold and cruel. Some doesn't even mean most.

[ausoin]

]Places scale is differant but how many you need to kill is never specified to be scaled down.

The intent is to wipe out the entire human population, finishing in cata.

So? Garithos fought against "the new order" and never was a member so he doesn't have a say in its land. As sylvanas was a member and won the civil war. Also promises mean nothing if sylvanas gains the right to rule by winninf the civil war.

So did Sylvanas, and Garihos was a member of the Sylvanas alliance alongside Varimathas. Sylvanas doesn't have a claim to Hilsbrad. The Hillsbrad wasn't even fully under Lordaeron kingdom before either and neither during the Scourge invasion. Let alone Arathi.

Technically yes but its not legal to humiliate prisoners of war, neither is executing without a fair trial, forcing a prisoner of war to brake their moral or ethnical codes like not grom a death in battle. Also so interment camps which mistreat their prisoners are illegal after ww2 and specifies its a defensive and an rightheous war if its aim is to free the people from there.

Moral and ethical codes? What if my moral code is to drink blood from pupies, would they be obligated to honor it?

He was captured for attacking the Alliance, period. And you continue to ignore the fact the Alliance hunted him ever since he attacked them during the events of the Botdp. And in today's laws PoW is to be captured so they don't participate in the ongoing conflict. And Grom was captured. And if you hadn't noticed Azeroth never had a WW2 and the new laws about PoW. This is like watching a medieval movie and saying its illegal for them to do something because in today's laws it's forbidden, we arent talking about having a moral high ground, but just laws.

Day of the dragon dalaran mages playing with the orcs fel withrawal. So? As acts of lordaeron are placed on things alliance and humans did good so must we place the wrong done in the area on the alliance on the fault of humanity and alliance. It was tested in open in apothecary quarters and most people historically speaking don't wander around in pre industrialisated cities so its to hide and yeah some have seen experiments yes but they didn't what it was. BtS said some forsakens are more evil, cold and cruel. Some doesn't even mean most.

They were researching orc connection to daemons, but when was it said that they performed inhumane things? Most Forsaken in the game are cruel that is a fact covered by the in questing experience and what we know of the Undeath curse, look at Sira and Delaryn.

[Terongor]

The intent is to wipe out the entire human population, finishing in cata.



So did Sylvanas, and Garihos was a member of the Sylvanas alliance alongside Varimathas. Sylvanas doesn't have a claim to Hilsbrad. The Hillsbrad wasn't even fully under Lordaeron kingdom before either and neither during the Scourge invasion. Let alone Arathi.



Moral and ethical codes, phew. What if my moral code is to drink blood from pupies, would they be obligated to honor it?

He was captured for attacking the Alliance, period. And you continue to ignore the fact the Alliance hunted him ever since he attacked them during the events of the Botdp. And in today's laws PoW is to be captured so they don't participate in the ongoing conflict. And Grom was captured. And if you hadn't noticed Azeroth never had a WW2 and the new laws about PoW. This is like watching a medieval movie and saying its illegal for them to do something because in today's laws it's forbidden, we arent talking about having a moral high ground, but just laws.



They were researching orc connection to daemons, but when was it said that they performed inhumane things? Most Forsaken in the game are cruel that is a fact covered by the in questing experience and what we know of the Undeath curse, look at Sira and Delaryn.

Yeah and the major part happened in cata which was during faction war and attacking an enemys town during a war and wiping it out is normal.

Yeah she actually was.. the moment she raised as LK slave until he the civil war started in lordaeron. https://wow.gamepedia.com/Hillsbrad_Foothills "Central Hillsbrad was part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron from at least the 19 BDP.[5] " taken from chronicles 2 and https://wow.gamepedia.com/Hillsbrad_Fields The Alliance had succeeded in pushing the Horde out of southern Lordaeron and destroying the Horde base at Zul'Dare, but at the cost of both the townships of Hillsbrad and Southshore which were left in ruins.[5] Hillsbrad and Southshore were both later rebuilt after the war.[6] which reference wc2 mission and day of the dragon saying Townships of Hillsbrad and southshore belonged to lordaeron.

Arathi wasn't alliance land since it left alliance long time before third war and Galen trollbane stood by decision to keep alliance away from but league of arathi brought alliance there and tried give stromgarde "back to the alliance" meaning open rebellion towards Galen, so yeah Arathi didn't belong to the horde but neither did it belong the alliance nor to the league it belonged to Galen.

Yes they would, how is that bad even?

Yeah he was captured but it wasn't right as grom was only a field commander in horde of draenor and only followed orders, which is like going after each grunt.
Then why did you talk about him getting executed previosly? Azeroth currently isn't mediaval mechagon, Draenai spaceships, Iron horde technology, gass weapons you can't say azeroth is a mediaval place its a weird amalgation. As on previous conversation we had war crimes book is heavily based on nurnberg trials which those were set for and Garroshes "laws" Garrosh broke is alot like nurnberg trial laws and using the definition from literature we if something is heavly based on or inspired by something we must take parts as same which aren't stated to be different.

Not letting them rest for a long time and not helping with backlash of withrawals, also some mage used spells for fun to see what it would do for the withrawal. Most Forsaken ingame are part of the army or Sylvanases officials which are psychopaths(max 10% of forsaken population) that would still be saying 10% of population is everything. You are using same argumenets as some feminist when they say that all men are richer than woman as 10% of the richest peoples in the world are men mostly so all the men are richer than woman.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Just Goblins.

[ausoin]

Yeah and the major part happened in cata which was during faction war and attacking an enemys town during a war and wiping it out is normal.

Yeah she actually was.. the moment she raised as LK slave until he the civil war started in lordaeron. https://wow.gamepedia.com/Hillsbrad_Foothills "Central Hillsbrad was part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron from at least the 19 BDP.[5] " taken from chronicles 2 and https://wow.gamepedia.com/Hillsbrad_Fields The Alliance had succeeded in pushing the Horde out of southern Lordaeron and destroying the Horde base at Zul'Dare, but at the cost of both the townships of Hillsbrad and Southshore which were left in ruins.[5] Hillsbrad and Southshore were both later rebuilt after the war.[6] which reference wc2 mission and day of the dragon saying Townships of Hillsbrad and southshore belonged to lordaeron.

Arathi wasn't alliance land since it left alliance long time before third war and Galen trollbane stood by decision to keep alliance away from but league of arathi brought alliance there and tried give stromgarde "back to the alliance" meaning open rebellion towards Galen, so yeah Arathi didn't belong to the horde but neither did it belong the alliance nor to the league it belonged to Galen.

Yes they would, how is that bad even?

Yeah he was captured but it wasn't right as grom was only a field commander in horde of draenor and only followed orders, which is like going after each grunt.
Then why did you talk about him getting executed previosly? Azeroth currently isn't mediaval mechagon, Draenai spaceships, Iron horde technology, gass weapons you can't say azeroth is a mediaval place its a weird amalgation. As on previous conversation we had war crimes book is heavily based on nurnberg trials which those were set for and Garroshes "laws" Garrosh broke is alot like nurnberg trial laws and using the definition from literature we if something is heavly based on or inspired by something we must take parts as same which aren't stated to be different.

Not letting them rest for a long time and not helping with backlash of withrawals, also some mage used spells for fun to see what it would do for the withrawal. Most Forsaken ingame are part of the army or Sylvanases officials which are psychopaths(max 10% of forsaken population) that would still be saying 10% of population is everything. You are using same argumenets as some feminist when they say that all men are richer than woman as 10% of the richest peoples in the world are men mostly so all the men are richer than woman.

They attacked the city, and according to the Forsaken it had endured massive losses. Forsaken plan was to wipe out the entire population, even parts that were not in Lordareon originally.

Okay....

The League was with the Alliance, they had Stormguard soldiers with them, they rejoined the Alliance. Galen was dead. The league is all that remained.

Each grunt? He was one of the top leaders of that Horde. Lordareon is a medieval kingdom, and todays laws on PoW do not apply here.

Backlash from withdrawals were the orcs didnt want to fight to the level they did under the deamon blood, hardly inhumane treatment.

The curse of undeath makes people harder to fell emotions, that a fact, especially since many died tradgic deaths.

[Terongor]

They attacked the city, and according to the Forsaken it had endured massive losses. Forsaken plan was to wipe out the entire population, even parts that were not in Lordareon originally.

Okay....

The League was with the Alliance, they had Stormguard soldiers with them, they rejoined the Alliance. Galen was dead. The league is all that remained.

Each grunt? He was one of the top leaders of that Horde. Lordareon is a medieval kingdom, and todays laws on PoW do not apply here.

Backlash from withdrawals were the orcs didnt want to fight to the level they did under the deamon blood, hardly inhumane treatment.

The curse of undeath makes people hardver to fell emotions, that a fact, especially since many died tradgic deaths.

Endured could be from vanilla attacks to their food supply and usually after leadership of a town dies there is some panick as some mighht try flee and all that. Well they planned yes, but if they did during a war against the target force which they didn't start it doesn't matter.

Vanilla arathi basin entry level was 20-29 https://vanilla-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Battleground and Galen was killed in quest whiches minimun level was 35 https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sigil_of_Trollbane_(quest) and we can say that vanilla story happened timewise which came first in levels.

When Grommash takes orders from DK's, Ner'zhul, Kilrogg, Dentarg and kargath. He wasn't even summoned to the HfC on strategy meeting just shows his actual rank in horde draenor he was at best a field commander which makes him only a person who follows orders.

So was stormwind and Orgrimmar is closest to an mediaval khannet and still current PoW applied on them.

They were weak, some had seizures and suffering from huge fatigue and they were taxing their bodies with harmful arcade magic. So in your oppinion keeping them wake for days forcefully isn't inhumane or the fact that we no orcs that survived after being given to kirin tor.

Says were? source. Also from a perspective all knowing narrator as such characters PoV make it subjective, if its not a character who has researched it.

[ausoin]

Endured could be from vanilla attacks to their food supply and usually after leadership of a town dies there is some panick as some mighht try flee and all that. Well they planned yes, but if they did during a war against the target force which they didn't start it doesn't matter.

Vanilla arathi basin entry level was 20-29 https://vanilla-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Battleground and Galen was killed in quest whiches minimun level was 35 https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sigil_of_Trollbane_(quest) and we can say that vanilla story happened timewise which came first in levels.

When Grommash takes orders from DK's, Ner'zhul, Kilrogg, Dentarg and kargath. He wasn't even summoned to the HfC on strategy meeting just shows his actual rank in horde draenor he was at best a field commander which makes him only a person who follows orders.

So was stormwind and Orgrimmar is closest to an mediaval khannet and still current PoW applied on them.

They were weak, some had seizures and suffering from huge fatigue and they were taxing their bodies with harmful arcade magic. So in your oppinion keeping them wake for days forcefully isn't inhumane or the fact that we no orcs that survived after being given to kirin tor.

Says were? source. Also from a perspective all knowing narrator as such characters PoV make it subjective, if its not a character who has researched it.

What? The point is they attacked and caused heavy casualties, as such it isnt some minor skrimish. The plan was halfway done in pre Cata and then by the time the plauge was done Southshore was destroyed, the Forsaken didnt need an official war between the A&H seeing they were already doing it.

I dont recall his exact standing but if he was lower it still changes nothing, he attacked the Alliance. And was hiding ever since, and he joined in Thrall revolt, and as such he exposed himself to capture.

Gelen actually joined the Alliance in Vannila, according to wowpedia. So that settles that.

How did it applied on them?

I only read the day of the dragon once long ago, so if you can give a source.

Of the known ones Sylvanas changed in contrast to when she was alive, Nathanos, Sira, Delaryn...

[Terongor]

What? The point is they attacked and caused heavy casualties, as such it isnt some minor skrimish. The plan was halfway done in pre Cata and then by the time the plauge was done Southshore was destroyed, the Forsaken didnt need an official war between the A&H seeing they were already doing it.

I dont recall his exact standing but if he was lower it still changes nothing, he attacked the Alliance. And was hiding ever since, and he joined in Thrall revolt, and as such he exposed himself to capture.

Gelen actually joined the Alliance in Vannila, according to wowpedia. So that settles that.

How did it applied on them?

I only read the day of the dragon once long ago, so if you can give a source.

Of the known ones Sylvanas changed in contrast to when she was alive, Nathanos, Sira, Delaryn...

attack on the settlements doesn't even fulfil the requirements of battle https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/battle "A sustained fight between large organized armed forces." so no it doesn't as the heroes who were sent weren't organized.

Yes it doeas as it makes him under the law same value as grunt.

You mean this "After recognizing the vastly changed circumstances since his father's death, he agreed to rejoin the Alliance.[6]" from wowpedia which links just the league of arathor site in wowpedia which doesn't mention Galen even once and neither did Chronicles 3 mention him rejoining the alliance, so its not confirmed.

War crimes book when a leader of orgrimmar called Garrosh hellscream and some of his followers like the dragonmaw clan were accused of them.

Its talked in the day of the dragon and few mention on wc3 manual book(this I'm not 100% sure)

We have alot who haven't changed likeLilian voss until what his father tried to murder her, members of desolate council, Alonsus, Godfrey stayed the same, Zelling, Derek and Marshal valentine.

[rowaasr13]

That won't fix anything, we'll just have two generic evil factions instead of one.
That would never happen. If someone like Yrel or Garithos led the Alliance? Perhaps. But Golden Child would never even think of committing genocide.

Why you're saying that Yrel would support genocide? Is there any indication that she "genocided" anyone? AFAIK even from short Mag'har scenario, her forces accept everyone regardless of race - i.e. they have orcs and ogres. Actually her way - accepting everyone and turning them into better people is pretty much the best thing that can be done about Horde's constant lust for blood.

And let's not even get into "Light is evil, see what it tried to do with Illidan". He was perfect prototype for edgelord ready to be stored in International Bureau of Weights and Measures. "I am my stupid and rebellious youth that stayed for thousands of years, I don't want to grow up!!!"

Making people better is good. They don't lose sense of self, don't lose memory, don't start to suddenly hate someone or some other evil shit. So who cares if improvement is done through psychologist talking or through some kind of Light magic.

So no, I don't support genocide of Horde races, but healing most of orcs, undead and those screwed up among other races - I'd be happy with that.
Horde player. I just want to stop this shitty "and now you play villain faction" nonsense.

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The alliance attacked in Silithus

Shit stained lie. Please stop repeating it. It won't come true because you parrot it 1000 times.

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How about you guys crawl back into the rift you came out of and stay there.

He' s just bad at understanding VEs. I've recently played through Alliance war campaign and Umbric is very calm and level-headed. He does talk about Silvermoon, but shows zero hate. His only concern is that great power should not be in the hands of Horde. That's why he went Alliance and that's why he hopes to eventually bring rest of Silvermoon back too. Anybody who poses as VE and is frothing about "killing those other elves who exiled us!!" is most often some hordie who tries to cosplay their own headcannon and didn't bother to check actual character.

[Verdugo]

He' s just bad at understanding VEs. I've recently played through Alliance war campaign and Umbric is very calm and level-headed. He does talk about Silvermoon, but shows zero hate. His only concern is that great power should not be in the hands of Horde. That's why he went Alliance and that's why he hopes to eventually bring rest of Silvermoon back too. Anybody who poses as VE and is frothing about "killing those other elves who exiled us!!" is most often some hordie who tries to cosplay their own headcannon and didn't bother to check actual character.

Eldritch powers are safe and harmless as long as you play Alliance!!!

[rowaasr13]

What’s actually funny are Alliance fanboys comparing this fictional story to real life and players within it with “literal nazis” and “muslim extremists”..

Yawn. This excuse again? Fictional stories are based on real life and invoke real life things. Because they're written by humans and for humans.

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Eldritch powers are safe and harmless as long as you play Alliance!!!

I play Horde Shadow Priest, sorry. Been dealing with you powers since forever.

[Zandalariprelate]

Eldritch powers are safe and harmless as long as you play Alliance!!!

Don't forget dark shamanism in the zandalar raid.

[Verdugo]

I play Horde Shadow Priest, sorry. Been dealing with you powers since forever.

Sssure mr. potential paladin.

[Combatbutler]

Yawn. This excuse again? Fictional stories are based on real life and invoke real life things. Because they're written by humans and for humans.

You can't be serious about this. Anyone who gets seriously influenced by stories on the level of the warcraft universe has some serious issues.

[rowaasr13]

Sssure mr. potential paladin.

I'm not sure what kind of idea you wanted to convey with this random assortment of words.

You can't be serious about this. Anyone who gets seriously influenced by stories on the level of the warcraft universe has some serious issues.

You'd better re-read what I was replying to, because you very obviously switched what influenced by what.

[Combatbutler]

You'd better re-read what I was replying to, because you very obviously switched what influenced by what.

I stand by what I said, so something is influenced by real life events and is written utterly ridiculous for anyone with a working brain to see, does it mean it should be taken serious? No it should not, people that call others one of the most derogatory term that exists on this planet over such stupid shit, need some serious help. It is an insane argument to make plain and simple.

Such stories are entertaining nothing more, nothing less. So what if a fictional race is gutted and infants eaten in front of a mother, or a hero sweeping in to save the day because they are pure of heart, both tropes are equally ridiculous, but entertaining nonetheless. It doesn't matter if it was influenced by a real world tragedy or not.

These stories are not meant to get people to think, stories like warcraft are the equivalent of the sharknado movies compared to higher cinema and writing.

[ausoin]

attack on the settlements doesn't even fulfil the requirements of battle https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/battle "A sustained fight between large organized armed forces." so no it doesn't as the heroes who were sent weren't organized.

Call it whatever you want, by attacking a city and killing many they are the agressors.

Yes it doeas as it makes him under the law same value as grunt.

Not when he attacked again as Thralls right hand man.

You mean this "After recognizing the vastly changed circumstances since his father's death, he agreed to rejoin the Alliance.[6]" from wowpedia which links just the league of arathor site in wowpedia which doesn't mention Galen even once and neither did Chronicles 3 mention him rejoining the alliance, so its not confirmed.

His soldiers are the same soldiers as the soldiers with the League members in Refugee Point, and given the lack of quest that give any rebel vibe they prob put 2 and 2 together.

War crimes book when a leader of orgrimmar called Garrosh hellscream and some of his followers like the dragonmaw clan were accused of them.

Accused of what exatctly?

Its talked in the day of the dragon and few mention on wc3 manual book(this I'm not 100% sure)

Well yeah, but can you give a source, since I dont remember the book very well.

We have alot who haven't changed likeLilian voss until what his father tried to murder her, members of desolate council, Alonsus, Godfrey stayed the same, Zelling, Derek and Marshal valentine.

Voss tells Zelling the process changes a person.

[rowaasr13]

I stand by what I said, so something is influenced by real life events and is written utterly ridiculous for anyone with a working brain to see, does it mean it should be taken serious? No it should not, people that call others one of the most derogatory term that exists on this planet over such stupid shit, need some serious help. It is an insane argument to make plain and simple.

Well if some faction acts like a nazi (please drop "most derogatory term that exists on this planet" - considering that many of them around the world had a grand meeting on 9th Feb at Budapest and annual Baltic states/Ukraine SS torch marches, it is, unfortunately not) - i.e. consider themselves better and other people worse only on matter of race/nation/faction and not deeds and actively works on eliminating them for this - then they ARE nazi by definition. It isn't even up for discussion - it's a fact as someone from devs explicitly tweeted in MoP times that Horde is under Hittler's (=Garrosh) control and then now we have devs saying that "Sylvanas is worse" and "Horde didn't learn from MoP, we'll have to repeat it". So who ARE people who support such factions way of doing things? "Some-guys-exactly-like-nazi-supporters-except-using-some-other-less-known-word-so-we-don't-trigger-those-who-are-offended-when-people-are-called-nazi-even-for-a-good-reason"?

Such stories are entertaining nothing more, nothing less. So what if a fictional race is gutted and infants eaten in front of a mother, or a hero sweeping in to save the day because they are pure of heart, both tropes are equally ridiculous, but entertaining nonetheless. It doesn't matter if it was influenced by a real world tragedy or not.

It is reaction that matters. If you praise infant eater for something except black humor value, well then you are "infant eater supporter" simply by definition of word "supporter".

These stories are not meant to get people to think, stories like warcraft are the equivalent of the sharknado movies compared to higher cinema and writing.

Sorry, no. WarCraft story by now spans two decades, several dozens of books and is familiar to several millions of people. It is no longer relevant if you "meant to get people to think" or not with such magnitude. It gets people thinking. And it gets people feels disgusted at other people who vocally support its dirtiest part that were obviously meant to be universally hated by anyone. Because they're copy/pasted from RL concepts that supposed to be universally hated by anyone. Dev's words seem to confirm that it is intentional.

Why, according to Danuser and "we'll have to repeat it again" I have strong suspicion that those vocal supporters is exactly the reason why we have BfA right now and Blizzard throatfucking us, Thrall's Horde players, with "villain Horde" bat right now.

[Combatbutler]

It isn't even up for discussion - it's a fact as someone from devs explicitly tweeted in MoP times that Horde is under Hittler's (=Garrosh) control and then now we have devs saying that "Sylvanas is worse" and "Horde didn't learn from MoP, we'll have to repeat it". So who ARE people who support such factions way of doing things? "Some-guys-exactly-like-nazi-supporters-except-using-some-other-less-known-word-so-we-don't-trigger-those-who-are-offended-when-people-are-called-nazi-even-for-a-good-reason"?

It doesn't change a damn thing again this is a fictional story as long as people don't spout nonsense in real life hurting real people it does not matter.

It is reaction that matters. If you praise infant eater for something except black humor value, well then you are "infant eater supporter" simply by definition of word "supporter".

I literally had to laugh thanks for that. No it doesn't, if it makes a compelling story it doesn't matter. Fictional characters can be well fleshed out and real story can be written to get people to think, but cheap flat entertainment like warcraft... yeah right.

Sorry, no. WarCraft story by now spans two decades, several dozens of books and is familiar to several millions of people. It is no longer relevant if you "meant to get people to think" or not with such magnitude. It gets people thinking. And it gets people feels disgusted at other people who vocally support its dirtiest part that were obviously meant to be universally hated by anyone. Because they're copy/pasted from RL concepts that supposed to be universally hated by anyone. Dev's words seem to confirm that it is intentional.

Warcraft gets people thinking hah, that is the same as saying warhammer gets people thinking, it is entertaining over the top nonsense and that is it. There are no deep lessons to be learned here, there are real novels etc out there to actually get you thinking warcraft never was among those.

Why, according to Danuser and "we'll have to repeat it again" I have strong suspicion that those vocal supporters is exactly the reason why we have BfA right now and Blizzard throatfucking us, Thrall's Horde players, with "villain Horde" bat right now.

It doesn't make these kind of argument any less ridiculous and deserves to be mocked at least and frankly from where i stand I find such remarks utterly disgusting, because it devalues the derogatory term nazi.

Well if some faction acts like a nazi (please drop "most derogatory term that exists on this planet" - considering that many of them around the world had a grand meeting on 9th Feb at Budapest, it is, unfortunately not) - i.e. consider themselves better and other people worse only on matter of race/nation/faction and not deeds - then they ARE nazi by definition.

Alright listen here buttercup I am giving you one chance to drop this, I had family that died because of literal nazis back in the day and I am telling you right now if you dare to equalize some second/third rate fiction with actual despicable humans in reality you are pretty much spitting on the graves of those who literally died because of real crimes and not some fantasy story.