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    The Rich Kids of Venezuela flaunt their wealth

    Flashing a fist-full of dollars, posing with pop-stars or living it up in at world’s most lavish hotels – the rich kids of Venezuela’s socialist elite know nothing of the misery their parents have wreaked on their country.

    Socialist revolution leader Hugo Chavez’s oldest daughter Maria Gabriela is rumoured to be Venezuela’s richest woman, with a personal fortune of more than 4 billion dollars, hidden in bank accounts Europe.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-wealth.html

    It's George Orwell's Animal Farm, were the animals on the farm form a socialist union, rise up and overthrow the human farmer. But then the pigs, who were at the head of the socialist revolution, become the farmer. For the common man, nothing's changed, the farmer is the same as the pig as far as they're concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    It's George Orwell's Animal Farm, were the animals on the farm form a socialist union, rise up and overthrow the human farmer. But then the pigs, who were at the head of the socialist revolution, become the farmer. For the common man, nothing's changed, the farmer is the same as the pig as far as they're concerned.
    Please don't use great authors to project you disgust of political ideologies especially when applying them incorrectly.

    I suggest actually reading the book and not a short summary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Please don't use great authors to project you disgust of political ideologies especially when applying them incorrectly.

    I suggest actually reading the book and not a short summary.
    Don't ask Hubcap to actually know something. Hubcap posts whatever comes to mind, no thought required. Just spam those links all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Please don't use great authors to project you disgust of political ideologies especially when applying them incorrectly.

    I suggest actually reading the book and not a short summary.
    The author himself said it's about the russian revolution and Stalin.

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    But aren't they socialists? I thought no one would be rich in that utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    They have good money, made from oppressing an entire people.

    Just like the capitalist overlords in the US and the West and everywhere else.

    Socialism is just as bad, anything that centralize power and wealth in the hands of a few/elite should be vigorously fought, and those that centralize wealth like this should be swiftly punished.
    Anti-corruption agencies should keep politician's business under constant surveillance. If you remove money and power from politics, the right people will serve the people. Too bad it's hard to get these agencies established, since those in power don't want to be submit to that oversight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    The author himself said it's about the russian revolution and Stalin.
    Others have tried and failed to explain the political situation in Venezuela and the causes beyond the political system what hinges on anything but those ideals.

    So I'm not that arrogant that I believe I am better at informing the ignorant.

    Also I'm glad you mentioned those things as it highlights the lack of understanding the difference between socialism and communism.

    He was very much right in his assessment if you know when the book was written. A few nationalised companies does not make a communist state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    The author himself said it's about the russian revolution and Stalin.
    Which is different from what is going on in vuvuzula.

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    I thought everybody had equal wealth in socialism?

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    What a surprise they posting it now.
    I mean, just grab the guns and overthrow evil oppressors. History right in front of you, bois.
    If someone asked you in the future, how did civil war started in Venezuela, and who is fueling the fire, remember this is was one building blocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeth View Post
    I thought everybody had equal wealth in socialism?
    Not how it works, and they still have plenty of private companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    But aren't they socialists? I thought no one would be rich in that utopia.
    You're confusing socialism with communism. Communism is the idea that everything should be evenly shared across everyone, socialism is more 'everyone should have the necessities to live and work'. Their shitty attempt didn't work, especially when they poured their entire economy into oil and were surprised when the bubble burst that they had no farms to produce their own food, factories to make their own products, etc.

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    George Orwell is actually well known to have been a democratic socialist. Animal Farm has a bigger focus on the Russian Revolution and how it went wrong, and isn't really a critique of Marxist Ideology. You can critique socialism for sure, but using Orwell's ideas isn't the best way to go about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Please don't use great authors to project you disgust of political ideologies especially when applying them incorrectly.

    I suggest actually reading the book and not a short summary.
    Sorry, I never read the books, I actually found it interesting by it's quotation from it.

    But it makes me wonder why do you think OP is wrong? Venezuela has indeed a huge problem and it's partially, if not wholly, by it's socialist government and people exploiting it's citizens like the example OP gave.

    Just makes me wonder what is wrong with his assessment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post
    Sorry, I never read the books, I actually found it interesting by it's quotation from it.

    But it makes me wonder why do you think OP is wrong? Venezuela has indeed a huge problem and it's partially, if not wholly, by it's socialist government and people exploiting it's citizens like the example OP gave.

    Just makes me wonder what is wrong with his assessment.
    He is not wrong in under lining the corruption a power over others creates. Especially when power is taken by force.

    Now he is wrong in accrediting this to socialism as he's confusing a far more extreme ideology to this. It's understandable as the red scare never left the US completely and so everything red is painted as dark red in their perception.

    And it's not the first time this sort of confusion tool place calling into question if it isn't an intentional bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post
    Sorry, I never read the books, I actually found it interesting by it's quotation from it.

    But it makes me wonder why do you think OP is wrong? Venezuela has indeed a huge problem and it's partially, if not wholly, by it's socialist government and people exploiting it's citizens like the example OP gave.

    Just makes me wonder what is wrong with his assessment.


    Orwell fought in the Spanish Revolution on the socialist side. He saw first hand how when the socialists took power they became just like the corrupt right wingers they replaced.

    To quote the Who, "In with the new boss, same as the old boss"

    The Spanish Revolution is what gave Orwell his idea for the book Animal Farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeth View Post
    I thought everybody had equal wealth in socialism?
    Depends on the socialism, it's a broad and blanket term. You can have a strict system that dictates everyone shares similar wealth or still institute a market system that allows the better to rise above others (in terms of wealth).
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    Holy shit shes rich look at all those 1$ bills thanks for the laugh dailymail.
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    No they don’t learn and evidence suggests that. Behavior also doesn’t change and if there is any hope of learning behavior has to change.

    Not meaningless declarations easy to say after he regrets offering up evidence he’s a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Orwell fought in the Spanish Revolution on the socialist side. He saw first hand how when the socialists took power they became just like the corrupt right wingers they replaced.

    To quote the Who, "In with the new boss, same as the old boss"

    The Spanish Revolution is what gave Orwell his idea for the book Animal Farm.
    You got the wrong book, and the fascists won that war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia

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    Holy shit shes rich look at all those 1$ bills thanks for the laugh dailymail.
    Shit, I probably should have checked the source lol

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